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Using Leverage Correctly by edicted

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Using Leverage Correctly
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##### Degenerates in crypto love to buy high and sell low.
Everyone is looking for the next x1000.  Everyone wants to get rich.  Everyone sees the people that are getting rich and think they can copy those strategies to do the same.  Sadly, this is not how it works otherwise we'd all be billionaires.  This is a [classic example of survivorship bias.](https://peakd.com/@edicted)  We tend to look at the winners and ignore the losers even when all the winners did was get lucky and act like geniuses. 

#### Margin vs Leverage
These two keywords get mixed up a lot and are often used to mean the same thing.  Margin trading and leverage trading are the same thing.  However, the words margin and leverage represent two completely different (however complementary) meanings. 

>Leverage allows you to trade a larger financial position with a smaller sum. Margin, on the other hand, is the initial investment you need to make to open a leveraged trade. 

We can see from this Google definition that the margin is the smaller amount of the total position that is actual money.  The margin is ultimately the collateral being risked.  A margin-call is when you get an email from the exchange telling you your position has been liquidated. However, the term itself dates back to the days of actually being called on the phone and told by a person that you need to increase your collateral or decrease your risk otherwise the position is going to be unwound. 


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#### An x2 leveraged position means that a trader is doubling their risk:reward ratio.  x3 would be triple and x4 would be quadruple. 

|Risk|Liquidation Long| Liqudation Short
-|-|-
x2|50% loss|100% gain
x3|33.33% loss|50% gain
x4|25% loss| 33.33% gain
x5|20% loss| 25% gain
x10|10% loss | 11% gain

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The very first thing we notice here is that going long and going short look completely different on paper even though the logic of them is exactly the same.  We are borrowing assets with our collateral to make an overextended gamble in either direction.  However, the problem here is that an asset going up in value is not the same as an asset going down in value.  

For example, Bitcoin can go up 10000% but can only go down a maximum of 100% to $0.  If the price goes up 50% and down 50%, the end result is that we lost money because when it goes down 50% is chops the principal amount in half in addition to cutting the 50% gain in half.  

#### Example:
> Price goes up 50% from $100 to $150
Price goes down 50% from $150 to $75
End result: 25% loss from $100 to $75

>**Alternately:**
>Principal: $100 ; Gain $50 ; slash both in half; $50 + $25 = $75

### Checking our work...
In the table above I actually got some of the liquidation percentages wrong on the first try from memory so I had to do some maths to correct them. Let's check x3 leverage together for both the long and short sides. 

#### x3 long
1. We have $1000 worth of BTC.  
2. We want to increase our risk by x3.  
3. We borrow $2000 worth of BTC.
4. Our position is worth 0.05263157 BTC @ $57k/BTC (5,263,157 sats)
5. BTC crashes by 1/3 to $38k.
6. Our 0.05263157 position is now worth exactly $2000.
7. $2000 is what we owe back so the exchange liquidates us via email.
8. Memes ensue. 

#### x3 short
1. We have $1000 USD.  
2. We want to increase our risk by x3.  
3. We borrow 0.03508772 BTC and dump it for $2000 USD.
4. Our position is worth $3000 and we owe $2000. 
5. BTC pumps +50% to $85500.
6. We owe back 0.03508772 BTC worth $3000.
7. This is the entire position and we get liquidated. 
8. Degen Memes


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#### Notice anything? 
>Combined, margin and leverage allow you to leverage the funds in your account to potentially generate larger profits than your initial investment.

#### That's only half true. 
Even Google tells us that trading on margin is a tool used to increase risk, but I'm here to point out that it can and should be used for exactly the opposite function. 

#### Hedging only
Everybody understands that crypto is already one of the most volatile high risk high reward assets on planet Earth. Using crypto to increase that risk is greedy, irresponsible, and dangerous. Leverage can just as easily be used as a tool to confine risk and lower volatility.  It's what all the hedge funds are doing and it's what we should be doing as well. In fact, this is even more useful utility for crypto users than anyone else in the entire legacy financial system. 

#### Keeping Tokens off exchanges (virtual selling cold storage)
I actually thought of this just last week.  We can ironically use leverage to keep our Bitcoin off exchanges. For example, lets say I have one whole BTC in cold storage but I want to be trading that Bitcoin on an exchange for various other assets.  If I put the entire Bitcoin onto the exchange there is no sugar coating it: I am completely at their mercy. 

Many things can go wrong in a situation like this.  Legally when we send any asset to a bank they own the asset and all we own is a pinky-promise IOU saying they're going to respect that agreement.  If they go bankrupt/insolvent: we lose the money.  If they just decide to freeze our account: we lose the money.  If the government orders them to surrender: we lose the money.  If there is simply a bug in their system: we lose the money. If they break the law on purpose: we lose the money. If they obey an unjust law: we lose the money. 


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#### So how does leverage help mitigate these risk factors?
Well I can send 0.1 BTC to the exchange instead of 1 BTC and leverage trade with it.  Say I want to sell 0.3 BTC.  No problem; that's just an x3 short position.  Sell the 0.1 BTC and leverage it to sell 0.2 more.  Say I want to buy 0.2 BTC.  Same thing: x3 long position. 

In fact I could even sell the entire 1 BTC virtually with an x10 short on 0.1 BTC.  If the position gets liquidated because Bitcoin went up 11% it's no big deal.  Because after all the 0.9 BTC still in cold storage just went up in USD value and the position is still worth exactly the same as it was before.  This makes sense because we ***virtually*** sold everything, meaning we turned 1 BTC into USD so of course when BTC goes up we are still left with the exact same amount of USD, even though we got liquidated.  

#### This is how we hedge like a pro.  
If we want to continue the short we just transfer another 0.1 BTC to the exchange and setup another x10 with it.  Now if Bitcoin flash crashes 50% after a massive blow-off top the short position is up a huge amount of money even though the cold-storage position is down bad.  We can then unwind the short and send it back into cold storage and we'll be left with significantly more than 1 BTC after everything is said and done. 

#### Doing the math on this example:
1. BTC is $57k and we own one. 
2. We send 0.1 BTC to the exchange and lose it when price goes +11% to $63.3k
3. We send another 0.1 BTC to the exchange and open another x10 short.
4. Price crashes 50% to $31.7k.
5. We owe back 0.9 BTC on our short worth $28.5k
6. The original 1 BTC (0.1 margin + 0.9 borrowed) position is worth $63.3k.
7. This position is worth $31.7k after paying back the loan. 
8. We buy 1 BTC and move it to cold storage. 
9. Cold storage now has 1.8 BTC up from 1 BTC originally. 
10. USD value of this position is $57k.  Exactly what we started with.

So we can see even though we lost 0.1 BTC to a margin call here it didn't matter at all. We still were able to virtually sell our entire stack using leverage while reducing counterparty risk on the exchange by 90%. That's real utility. We can only lose whatever we send to the exchange, and nothing more. This is a tactic that very few of us are actually employing and honestly that needs to change. We're smarter than that. 

![financial-leverage-understand-for-business.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23t76pKhDG1yGZfkfF1hW1pmYcLixdQF1b8cau1oxij47JbZKgyWB6XLwAPLmKViouh5F.jpg)





#### [Long vs Short](https://peakd.com/@edicted/long-vs-short-taxes) logic
When we go long on Bitcoin there is no cap to the upside.  Nothing stops number go up and we can theoretically make millions on the position.  This is not true when we short an asset.  At best, when we go short, the asset crashes to $0 and we owe back nothing, meaning the absolute maximum we can possibly make is the amount we borrowed (which is an unreasonable expectation that almost never happens). 

This simple fact allows short positions to be much more aggressive than long positions.  Risk can be increased because the reward is capped, and shorting at the correct time will lead to a cascade of fear that allows bears to control markets.  However, unlike legacy derivatives such as gold or silver, Bitcoin is a different beast and can't be dominated by bears.  Eventually they all get wrecked, as the 4-year cycle proves over and over again. In fact we have front row seats to that right now as I type these words. 

![leverage-house-margin-soul.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23viM1J5J8WmkGuSLRX2aGKoh8WMNhMLLSp7NpwRgoWdS38hCCbvDfi9pST5u7EAqco7E.png)

#### When is it appropriate to increase risk in crypto? 
A lot of these exchanges are offering leverage positions of x100 or more, so when should we actually utilize such risky tools?  The answer is very carefully and with small amounts. You have to know exactly what you're doing or you'll get smited by the crypto gods. 



#### When to go x100?
[Best example I can come up with is my post from October 24th in which I correctly spotted a very obvious and hugely bullish flag.](https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@edicted/bull-flag-materializing)  I made some good trades here but the leverage I was using was incorrect and I ended up only making a couple dollars from some really good and expertly called movements.  It was very sad but also a hard lesson learned... well not too hard because I didn't lose money. Opportunity cost isn't so bad. 


![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swgEcYZ2ksdUzEnyqZwwaBVjzZ5qZXnQkvCqCYgxavnaKB1DaasjYHfx6XqAo99kgCu.png)

### I was able to spot this pattern and call it out instantly right after we pumped up to $35k in October.  
My expectation was that we would bounce around $35k to $33k inside of this wedge, which is exactly what happened as we can see in retrospect.  The problem?  The range between $35k and $33k is only 6% at a maximum, so it is legit impossible to make significant gains here unless we increase the risk:reward ratio using leverage.  

If I had the opportunity to do this over again I figured out I would have been trading on something like x50 leverage with small amounts, meaning that if I was wrong and the price broke out even 2% I'd lose all my collateral, but if I was correct I'd double my money or even quadruple it as we swung into the other direction.  

The amount of collateral that should be used in a situation like this is a tiny amount of our overall bankroll because we are risking all the collateral on small moves and we need to be able to make a lot of these bets without getting unlucky and going bankrupt.  I probably would have been risking something like $100 to $300 per bet even though my overall position was many thousands.

Unfortunately I mucked it all up because I wasn't using isolated margin. My position was cross-margin (meaning all collateral is in a huge basket and everything is at risk at the same time).  Isolated margin is an advanced play that I wasn't yet comfortable with so I made small bets and earned even smaller rewards.  Lesson learned. 

#### Taking out loans to pay bills
Another good strategy for bear market years is to avoid selling by paying for things on credit.  We can do this on-chain in a decentralized manner with protocols like DAI and we can also do it on exchanges just like any other form of leverage.  We can technically also do this with credit cards or personal loans but the interest rates are absurd these days. 

The only rule here is to borrow stable coins and thus owe back stable coins.  We then transfer the value out of the margin account and into our bank accounts to spend while the collateral sits within the loan contract paying back the stable-coins unlocks the crypto collateral.  Last I checked DAI gives a much better interest rate for something like this then an exchange would so the centralized option may not be viable depending on the deal being offered. 


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#### In conclusion 
We should only be using leverage to increase risk when there is a reasonable expectation that price movements are going to be very small (like single-digit percents over a short amount of time).  In almost all other circumstances we should be using leverage to decrease our risk, both from price volatility and to mitigate our assets from counterparty exposure.  Trade responsibly. [Not not financial advice.](https://peakd.com/@edicted/not-not-financial-advice)

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Shoo, I think I will just stick to my plebeian ways.  I'm too old to be making these kinds of moves and keeping up with it all!  I probably need to learn though because eventually I plan on using the sats I hold as collateral.  Potentially anyway.
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Hell you may be able to use BTC as collateral on Hive if we figure this L2 smart contract situation out. 
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@chapo112 ·
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I ask someone yesterday to tell me the difference between margin and leverage. He replied saying they are the sameπŸ˜‚.
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@edicted ·
#### Yep you got him now. 
Margin is the collateral and leverage is what we borrow from it. 
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@chapo112 ·
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Exactly those were my exact words but he was in disbelief πŸ˜‚
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@pekkymos ·
Wow, so interested, I never heard of this before, I'm so happy of hearing this, thank you so much 
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@shainemata ·
This guy seems to have worked out how to use leverage with cross margin. In this way his winning plays keep his losing plays afloat until they turn around or he closes them out. In the meantime, he siphons off gains. If I had more cash, I'd give it a try. This seems to work with longs and shorts.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/UJGOcqJ5KSs?si=E1-Tt3ocbdJL4t6_" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

In the meantime, he also came up with a lighter version without leverage about 3-4 years ago. I did that and have again started doing basic core compounding now that the market is more volatile in the upward direction. With my current position, I get maybe $40 to $60 daily. Once I can save up more, I'll increase my position. This only works with longs, which is why I needed to wait for another bull market. 

But more to your point, he's not risking his entire capital. He's putting in smaller amounts and letting leverage do the work. 
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@shainemata ·
I thought I'd picked a good video that explains. Oracle barely mentions the concept. 

Here's another video with more detail. 
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@thelogicaldude ·
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Oh I can do it, but it's much cheaper not trading with someone else's money, lol. If you can build up a decent enough position to spot trade, that is the best for risk management. I have played with the degens though, lol. 100x moves on scalp trades can get exciting and stressful all at the same time, lol. My new strategy isn't as good on the gains, but my stress levels are much more manageable, lol. 
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@edicted ·
> If you can build up a decent enough position to spot trade, that is the best for risk management.

Seems like you maybe didn't read the post because I specifically cite the ability to use leverage to avoid counterparty risk.  By having everything sitting in a spot position you are risking 100% of the funds to systemic failure. 
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@thelogicaldude · (edited)
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I read it, I always read. I just gave my opinion and don't necessarily agree with you on that because with leverage you are adding in counter party risk, where when I am trading spot, it's me and the market that I am trading, only counter party risk is the DEX itself. When you are using leverage on a centralized exchange, you are using the exchanges money. When using leverage I only use a very small amount of my account in a trade. I use a bigger amount on a spot trade, but I am cool holding the assets I am trading for a bit if I need to. When I was leverage trading, it was mostly on crap coins that I wouldn't want to hold for any length of time so it was a small position with a short stop loss because those were the ones I would catch bigger scalps on. If you don't have much money to trade with, you will get eaten up in exchange fees when playing high leverage and need to take that into account when figuring out your P/L on the trade.

EDIT: I missed the part on my first read where you were talking about trading from cold storage... Here's the thing, if you are trading on a DEX, you don't have the issues you are talking about being at the mercy of the exchange. You have the funds in your wallet. Now you have to use a wrapped version of BTC for this, and that is where you can put part of your stack into a protocol like AAVE using WBTC and trading there using collateralized leverage.
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