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· @gabbynhice ·
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Some thoughts about bid bots and about those who didn't like them
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Hello everyone!

Yesterday again i saw some interesting posts and comments.
Basicly it was all about the bots and reward pool.

In some way i fully agree with those who are against the bid bots. Because i also dont like to see meaningless posts boosted until the moon. So yes in that case they are right. 
But i dont think so that it will be better without the bots.

I think almost everyone would like to see the steem as a strong crypto. But right now the bid bots are a really good investment on steem. Imagine if all of them they withdraw the money what they invested. 
For sure we will see a nice price drop. 
And i am sure in that moment everyone will regret that they was against this kind of service. 
The solution is if we wanna fight against the reward pool rapers to hunt down the meaningless posts with high bid votes and not to ban the bidbots.

Also i understand that lets say there is a group who stick together and they support each other with they votes. But imagine that you just joined the community. You can write the best posts you will be not noticed for sure. So everyone need a boost. And how you can get boosted? By others or bots.

So it is quiet sensitive topic for sure but i wanna share my opinion. 

Also in some way those who buy votes usually they also invest. Than who are we to judge them? Because they invest of course they would like to have some ROI%. 
As i use to say if you make a meaningless post and you wanna have some return on your investment than make it but know how much you can and how much you cant. 
That is my opinion. I am happy to discuss about this more in the comment section. For sure we can make some pro and con's. 

But lets dont forget that the most important is to have investors here. No investors no vallue of the steem. Than even you make a nice post you will get dust for it. 





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@freebornangel ·
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See, the problem with hiring bullies to take rewards for you is that it turns off many active people here.
Before the hijackening of the code by stinc the creator flagged people that sold their votes.
Stinc ran Dan off and altered the code to favor the greediest, and that is who currently prospers here, for now.
Inevitably, the greed will drive out the good people, or the good people will drive out the greed.
Which side do you want to be on?
The bots will only shut down when they have no customers.
The blockchain will forever record your choice.

Better you flag spam for 125% of your vote value, if you ask me.
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@gabbynhice ·
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As i saw many people left the steem blockchain when the price droped. Also many people left because they join steem with a fake promises. They thought they make a simple 3 sentence post and they can earn a big amount. But that is not true.
Easier to the asian communities example they stick together and they support each other. Or some bigger stakeholders also doing the same. 
To be honest as you can see i share many stuff. I share my opinion but still i didnt get noticed just by few people. 

Yes this is because everyone is aftering the money and they sell they votes and they dont care to read a posts because no need if the bots they make they job.

So yes somehow i understand your point. And i dont like to mention people but others they saw also that i dont like neither when somebody boost a nonsense post. 
I use also promo serivices. And i sell my votes sometimes. But i also support new accounts and helping to onboard talented people. 
The main stuff is also that if the people dont delegate or lets say invest into the bid or promo bots they will invest somewhere else. Like some dapps that they also give free upvotes and share for delegators. So actually we will be in a same place where we start.
Also there is a option to let these investors who are running the bots or makeing the dapss to leave but than we can see the steem vallue around 0.001 dollar. 
So this topic is more difficult as many of the people think.
And like me i didnt withdraw example any money since i join. Just keep makeing a small deposits. 
( i have a plan why i am doing this but if you dont mind i wanna keep it in secret because i believe if i share it will be not happen😊 )
So me example i wanna be like swicerland. I dont wanna choose sides. Just share my opinion and find the third way to make the steem blockchain sucessfull so more of us can enjoy the fruits of this blockchain😊 
ps. if once i choose side i make enemies. And i dont like this idea😉

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@freebornangel · (edited)
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Instead of selling your vote you should flag some spam and call the SFR bot, they will give you vote equal to 125% of your vote value.
This pays better than selling your vote, and likely delegation, too.
It also fights spam on the chain.

You got to do what you do.
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@gabbynhice ·
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By the way the bid bots will destroy themselfs or the people who are useing them. I really dont understand why the people keep useing them anyway. They make so much negative ROI for the bidders. Almost all the time. 
The promo bots are different i think. 
Even many big accounts they useing them. Or like this or like that. But as i wrote it before the steem inc they make this stuff.They decided to use it this way and allow these so who am i to change or fight against they decission?
Ok if i will see a single picture with 100 or 200 dollars i will flag them. Because that is crazy. But the rest is not my business i think. I have my family i have my plans and i have always somerhing to share.😉
Thanks for your comment anyway i am really happy that this time i have finally people to talk here about the topic😊 
Because this topic from both sides have pro and con. And what i would like to find the road between this 2 sides so everyone will be happy. 
What do you think about this?

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@freebornangel ·
Yes, do what you think best.
It's all we can ask.
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@sharkmonsters ·
People give up pretty easily, too. It takes time, it takes effort, and it takes money. Like most things in life.

People have to pay to promote content on every other site, and in every aspect of life. I think it makes sense, especially considering people have Steem and SBD to spend. Why shouldn't they be allowed to spend it however they want? Similarly, if someone has invested a lot in Steem Power, why should they not be able to sell their vote?

People have unrealistic expectations for things sometimes. Yeah, Steem would be a lot better if people interacted more, and especially if they didn't get so down about the earnings and price of Steem. Just remember that no other site pays you for your content, really, and it's still in the salad days. 

Don't lose hope everyone. Just start commenting if you want to see more comments. :) 

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@gabbynhice ·
I replied to your another comment thats why i dont write it here again😊 
Just wanna say thanks for your comment i really like the way you think.

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@xplosive ·
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***"People give up pretty easily, too."***
Not everyone, and not pretty easily. I am on Steemit since 2017.05.17, so I am trying on Steemit (and on the Steem blockchain) for almost 2 years. I would not call this "giving up pretty easily".

***"It takes time, it takes effort, and it takes money."***
Time? Not for everyone. Or at least not a lot of time.
Some people make hundreds of dollars effortlessly (sometimes even with a single post).
Especially the rich people.
But for the most of us, yes. It takes time. A lot of time. Years, maybe even decades.
Effort? Not for everyone. Some people make hundreds of dollars effortlessly (sometimes even with a single post). Especially the rich people.
Money?  Well, usually the rich become richer, the poor become poorer (or at least stay poor) (and most likely ignored). Like in real life.

***"Just remember that no other site pays you for your content, really, and it's still in the salad days."***
That is not true. There are many other websites that pays you for your content.
Either in cryptocurrency or in fiat money. You can even make your own.
Just a few examples for other blockchains: Minds, Trybe, ClearPoll, Scorum, Weku, Smoke.
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@gabbynhice ·
Steem is still young. And it became more and more about money not the content that is true. But if it will be not about money than the currency will drop extremly. And that is a fact i think. 

I am also poor. Just finding the way how to make myself sucessfull here. And i am sure i can😉

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@xplosive · (edited)
$0.02
***"Than even you make a nice post you will get dust for it."***
I am already making dust with my posts, no matter what I do, what I post, what I write about. Sometimes I have to boost my post (not necessarily with bid-bots) to reach the payout minimum, because usually almost no one (only a few people) cares about my posts.
This is changed lately by using dPoll. You can see a relatively good interaction on my posts, but usually I still earn less than 1 Steem with my posts, and we know that nowadays the value of Steem is between $0.20 USD and $0.40 USD, based on the price of Steem nowadays, I am making dust (=only a few cents) with my posts/comments.
I know that "dust" means less than $0.02, but still.
I am earning just a few cents with my posts.
To be honest, I think that this is not worth my time.
And I am probably not alone.
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@gabbynhice ·
Pontosan. Kell az hogy kicsit az ember turbozza magat. Mert hiaba mondanak sokan barmit ilyen vilagban elunk. 
En is igazi voteot szinte csak a magyaroktol kapok itt. Meg par emberketol akikkel joban lettem de ugye mind kb. egy szinten vagyunk. 

En azert is hasznalok promo botokat mert miert ne. A penzt nem veszem ki hanem porgetem tovabb igy csak jot teszek a steem ecosystemnek. 
Amugy biztos lattad lesz vagyis van uj exchange. Nemsokara lehet fiattal is vasarolni steemet. Tuti lassan de biztosan menni fog fel a steem ara. Plusz ugye a sok dapp. Most a moonsteem pl. hihtetlenul addictive. Apropo ha meg nem lattad akkor szigoruan adom a reflinket😊 Csak voteolni kell a postjukat es adnak par centet hogy jatszhass😊

De lenyegeben sok app van most ami fel fogja szerintem tolni az arfolyamot csak ki kell varni. Lehet nem is lesz olyan sokara😊

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@xplosive · (edited)
Egy blogbejegyzésben írtam erre választ:
[[Hungarian] Gondolatok a Steem blokklánc jövőjéről (2019.02.26)](https://steemit.com/steem/@xplosive/hungarian-gondolatok-a-steem-blokklanc-joevojerol-2019-02-26).
664 szavas lett a blogbejegyzés. A Busy.org szerint 4 perc az elolvasása.
Köszönöm, ha időt szánsz rá.
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@sharkmonsters ·
How much do you make when you post on, say, Facebook? Or anywhere else on the internet, really. 

1 steem now will be worth a lot more later, too. 

Don't lose hope!
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@gabbynhice ·
absolutly i agree with you. I shared this because i was sad how some accounts fight against those who are useing bots. But example ok i am not a professional but still i think sometimes i catch few good topics. And of course i dont boost myself until the trending because i know i dont worth that much.
But example i didnt cash out nothing. Just continously makeing deposit. Than invest it again in posts or other projects. So i dont want others to judge me because i think i didnt make abuse. 
Instead of that keeping my money here in the community and i hope that soon it will return somehow. 
I see many cool projects dapps and i am sure these soon will make the steem worth more and more😊

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Nowadays I don't post on Facebook. 
I currently keep my Facebook account only for chatting with real life relatives and friends.
I do monetize an external blog with Google AdSense, but I rarely update the blog nowadays, so I usually make less than $1 USD per month with it. 
But let's go back to Steem.
3 months ago (on 2018.11.28) Steemit, Inc laid off close to 70% of the team.
***"Given the weakness of the cryptocurrency market, the fiat returns on our automated selling of STEEM diminishing, and the growing costs of running full Steem nodes, we have been forced to layoff close to 70% of the team."*** - [Steemit Update](https://steemit.com/steem/@ned/2fajh9-steemit-update).
Even some whales are losing/lost hope nowadays.
The future of Steem is questionable nowadays.
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