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· @livingwaters · (edited)
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Hi maninayton, 

Have you ever looked into the validity of the New Testament? 

If you don't mind, I'd like to share some information about how preserved it's been in comparison with other ancient documents. There are several that can be used for comparison, but I'll add just a few to keep this short, and give you a link where you can check out the accuracy of this, plus you can search for the info yourself.

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The New Testament has a 99.5% level of accuracy in comparison with the original documents, and most biblical scholars agree that it was written within 70 years following the death and resurrection of Christ.

Homer's (Iliad) trails behind that at a 95% level of accuracy and was copied 500 years after the original texts.
Sophocles and Aristotle trail behind the above two with no proof of accuracy and both were copied 1400 years after the original copies.

There are fragments of the Gospel of John that date back to AD 125 that are virtual copies of the original and match up at nearly 100, with slight translation variations, that hold the same meaning.
[Link to info on the "Rylands Library Papyrus"  ](https://www.challies.com/articles/the-history-of-christianity-in-25-objects-rylands-library-papyrus-p52/)

With the documented information that we have today, one would have to disregard all of the other ancient writings as there are none among all those listed above, as accurately preserved as the Bible.

[Link to Article with References](https://carm.org/manuscript-evidence)
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@geneticmemory ·
Just because the document is accurately preserved does not validate the information.
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@maninayton ·
Hello, @livingwaters. Thank you for your comment and for taking the time and trouble to provide the links.  Unfortunately, the argument you use for the historical accuracy of the Bible is misleading. It doesn't matter if the copies of the Bible were 99.5% accurate (a claim that I doubt anyway), if the original was a made up story to begin with then any 'evidence' taken from that source will be false.  There is no evidence that the original gospels were true - they are more likely to have been written by believers to promote their particular religion. Also bear in mind the authors of the gospels were not eye witnesses to any of the events contained in the gospels which in itself can be a major source of error.
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@livingwaters · (edited)
![fragments_1.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmavhLriWMyhfcC1qrm9N95pmh4en77NfjSmyN9SQEfbDy/fragments_1.png)

`"There are 10-15 manuscripts written within the first 100 years of the completion of the New Testament. Some are fairly large fragments, containing significant portions of the gospels or the letters of Paul. When we go out two centuries from the original writings (300 AD), there are at least 48 manuscripts. At three centuries (400 AD), there are 69 copies."` 
[Link to Article with References](http://www.bible.ca/ef/topical-the-earliest-new-testament-manuscripts.htm)

The above is a new link that backs up the information in the first.
 
The historical evidence within the bible itself offers some answers to questions like this. I tend to lean and trust in the ancient and preserved works contained within the Holy writ rather than the opinions of man, who neither lived during the time that Christ walked this earth, nor learned from those who carried on the teachings of Christ based on the disciple's teachings that were commissioned by Jesus Himself. 

There are a whole lot of claims...both pro and con, and this debate has raged on throughout history.

As far as the Bible as a whole goes, there is tons of evidence, including archeological proof of many of the things written including the dead sea scrolls, as well as other ancient writings that bring the text even more validity.

The Dead Sea Scrolls:
>"When the scrolls first were discovered in 1947, scholars disputed their dates of composition. Scholars now generally agree that although some materials >are earlier, the Qumran materials date primarily to the Hasmonean (152-63 >B.C.) and early Roman periods (63 B.C.-A.D.")
[Apologetics Press](http://ap.lanexdev.com/APContent.aspx?category=13&article=357)

It's up to you where you choose to place your trust.

It's not my job to make you believe that God's word is true. But it is my responsibility to tell you that it is.

For any believer in God, look outside at the trees, the grass, flowers and plants, and the sky. Those who believe in God know that these are all His handiwork, and since He sustains these things, He most certainly can and has preserved His text.

The evidence I reference is not for me, but for your consideration.

The bottom line is, one can either believe and trust in God, or trust in themselves and the opinions of man.  

I certainly hope that you will consider these things.

For every argument that you bring, there counter arguments, and this can go on forever.
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@maninayton ·
You're right @livingwaters, we could go on ping ponging links all day and still not resolve anything. I have one question to ask you though. From what you say it seems as if you believe in the Bible literally and that every word is from God and therefore true. I'm I correct in that assumption?
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@nextgen622 ·
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Both Matthew and John  who wrote two of the Gospels comprising the New Testament were eye witnesses. In fact, they spent over three years with Jesus.
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@maninayton ·
All of the gospels are considered to have been the work of anonymous writers between 70 and 110 CE. Links [here](http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Gospels#Anonymous_authors) and [here](https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/27673-christian-foundation-crumbles-under-scrutiny-by-paul-davis).

There were no eye witnesses. Everything the Christian religion (and all other religions for that matter) is based on is hearsay.
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