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Some Thoughts on the Value of STEEM by lukestokes

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· @lukestokes ·
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Some Thoughts on the Value of STEEM
This started as <a href="https://twitter.com/lukestokes/status/1144961056487485441">a tweet thread here</a>, and I'm curious what you think of it as well.

I think Steem is underrated and has been for some time. It’s one of the few cryptocurrency projects actually delivering on its goal. That said, it has some identity/vision issues to figure out.

First off, no, I don’t think Voice (or any other EOS social media project) will kill Steem. There is a passionate community involved with Steem that has put up with a lot of 💩 for years and is still her. Also, Voice KYC concerns:

<center>![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmfKrAtFNS6zyjYKS7LwNitq1k4BTGGYpjxczoqYbfwmhm/image.png)</center>

As for the issues, people still can’t think of STEEM the cryptocurrency without thinking about Steemit the (not so great) social media UI. I’ve tried to clarify the differences again and again:

<a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@lukestokes/steem-is-not-steemit-steem-is-more-valuable-than-steemit">
STEEM Is NOT Steemit. STEEM Is More Valuable Than Steemit.
<img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmbLdg9LtFZFYLrZxbFV1hm8wHN6m84naR3pbD1GDrk5zJ/steem_is_not_steemit.jpg"></a>

Investors walk away because they see inflation as wasted on content creators/curators, a segment which are not often whale speculators in the space and therefore won’t drive token prices up (but instead dump their rewards).

There’s also the concerning centralization of stake between Steemit, Inc and early ninja miners which keep some from buying up other people’s bags. Centralization is a bad thing, especially in this space. That said, people have been selling for years = decentralized over time.

On the other hand we have content creators who love the idea of getting paid for their work. They are confused why the main interface has such a confusing UI and has been mostly unchanged for years. They also, often, don’t understand blockchains or cryptocurrency.

This creates a lot of conflict because they want changes they see on other social media sites which might not be possible on Steem due to technical blockchain limitations (Sybil attack resistance, blockchain size concerns, etc)

With all that said, there’s still a dedicated group of developers who truly get how revolutionary Steem is and how easily blockchain social apps can be built on top it. Example: https://steemprojects.com/  Some like DTube are leaving/forking, but others are still here. (Edit: DTube isn't exactly leaving, but not building on the core Steem chain is a big deal)

So my opinion is Steem is undervalued because a lack of clear identity within the marketplace. Is it a cryptocurrency first, a developer platform for social media apps, or a social media site rewarding content creators? What if it’s all of the above? Isn’t that valuable?

Obviously this is not financial advice. I personally got rekt holding STEEM while others cashed out to more profitable cryptocurrencies. Just because something may be valuable and undervalued doesn’t mean the market will eventually value it.

Want to see an example of the passionate community on Steem? This post about hard fork 21 coming up has 299 comments. Anyone who thinks STEEM/Steem is dead hasn’t been paying attention. 

<a href="https://steemit.com/hf21/@lukestokes/hf21-what-makes-steem-valuable">
HF21: What Makes Steem Valuable?
<img src="https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcU9YU7UxrQKHnSBnGnPiZbocXr8kA4hauPyEQyJXnkTS/image.png">
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For more on this idea, check out this video on 3Speak: <a href="https://3speak.online/watch?v=neopch/wwrjjlzw">How To Help Steem Price To Grow? - NEO x Starkerz</a> @starkerz and @oracle-d have been talking about ideas like this for years. How can we make them happen? I think part of the answer is getting outside of the Steem and cryptocurrency bubbles and find real problems real businesses want to solve and show people how Steem can solve those problems.

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@bigtakosensei ·
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Steem is definitely my favorite blockchain so far. Even with all of its issues, I still feel I’ve gotten a lot of value out of the platform. 

Voice is just one platform in eos for me. There’s another Twitter like dapp on eos called murmur that I think is super underrated and it doesn’t require any kyc 🤯. Outside of steem, it’s probably my most used crypto app here recently.

But yeah this is just too cool to go away over night and even if it doesn’t we still have plenty of other good options out here. 

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@ironshield · (edited)
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People associate blockchain with cryptocurrency and they associate cryptocurrency with gambling.   Not gambling like casinos, but gambling like the stockmarket.  They say "Oh you mean like bitcoin?  I'm not going to take that risk."

People feel betrayed when they were "sold" on blockchain technology and invested in bitcoin.  After Bitcoin dumped in price, people felt scammed and lost trust in the technology.  After they sold, Bitcoin rose again, so now it's sour grapes.  If this is their only impression of blockchain, no wonder they're not excited about STEEM!  "Pssspht, Bitcoin knock-off, altcoin garbage, bla bla bla"  

Most people agree the future is blockchain, but nobody knows which chain will win.  We know the chain that SHOULD win, but as history shows, the best doesn't always win.  

The internet itself wasn't a big thing when it first came out, it took almost a decade for mass adoption.  Names like "Netscape" and "America Online" and "MySpace" and "Napster" have now faded into history... but at the time they were the winners!

Even if Steemit.com becomes "MySpace" and fades into forgotten memories, what will become of the STEEM blockchain?  Will the apps keep it alive?  Will gaming?  Will businesses invest?  Will the STEEM blockchain ever become mainstream?  Only time will tell, but in the meantime we do what we can.  Right?  I believe that if we keep at it, the preconceptions will change and industries will adapt.

It's likely the anti-censorship movement that will eventually cause blockchain to flourish.
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@lukestokes ·
You asked a lot of good questions. I currently think blockchains are like living organisms and they will continue if they are given energy for life (human time and attention).
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@ironshield ·
Interesting perspective.

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@luigi-tecnologo ·
I think somebody will fork Voice to do a version without KYC
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@lukestokes ·
That will be quite interesting to watch.
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@stealthtrader ·
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You make good points here, and I am not sure how earning Voice tokens instead of EOS will work.. On the other hand here on Steemit we earn _STEEM_, which is great to know you are vesting directly in the blockchain we are all helping build.

Now I was never advanced in computer science or coding, but I have had goals and a vision for how I see the crypto world in the future, and I always saw Steem being the future of that!

I remember 3 years ago when Steemit was just a blogging site and I made posts about being more supportive of other types of content..

https://steemit.com/socialnetwork/@stealthtrader/does-steemit-want-to-be-known-as-just-a-blogging-site

And I even talked about a future digital world entirely on the Steem blockchain!

https://steemit.com/vr/@stealthtrader/the-future-steemit-digital-world

It is good to see pretty much all of this come true though, and I am excited to see where Steem is in 2025!
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@lukestokes ·
I remember these posts. :) Unfortunately, it takes more than just putting an idea out there for reality to be shaped. It takes creators, creating. Sometimes those creators just need someone to give them an idea or spark of inspiration, but mostly it takes time, effort, sweat, and focus engaged over a long period of time with no guarantee of success.
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@steevc ·
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Steem has various things other platforms lack. The community is fairly small, but has a dedicated core. All the dapps mean there is something for everyone. I have been writing about why people might not come here, but there are plenty of reasons they should. It seems crazy that Steem is ranked so low against other coins.
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@zoidsoft · (edited)
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Many people live in reality bubbles (aka ones own little world).  I spent about 45 years working in the field of astrology, specifically [astrology software](http://www.astrology-x-files.com/delphicoracle-download.html) in the last 23 years) and it was this narrow focus on running my business that kept me from realizing just how important bitcoin was in 2010 when I first heard of it.

For the past 2.5 years I feel like I'm talking to people who have no ears.  The vast majority of people just don't get it.  I'd say that less than 1% of the people who I've explained this to have listened or really believe that crypto is going to completely disrupt the financial and political structure of the world.

One might think that most astrologers would get the fact that we're heading for a major banking crisis in the west, but they generally don't.  Many of them are trapped in statist thinking and believe that somehow everything will go on as it has been.  The majority in this group are left leaning and they do say major political changes are coming, but they seem to have a blind spot as to the efficient causes (the left in general also seems to have an aversion to understanding economics).

I think Libra token will onboard some once the Libra consortium have captured the regulators (how could they not with such a vast pool of financial power; enough to rival even the largest governments), but at some point in the not so distant future, if they start out using a "basket of fiat" to back their token, they will have to switch to a "basket of crypto" in order to not suffer from the consequences of the currency wars and hyperinflation...

https://youtu.be/Bu5Mtvy97-4
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