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· @masteryoda ·
$1,620.16
Why I removed all my posts!
![photo]( http://i.imgsafe.org/5a595a5402.png)

My story with STEEM started from the very beginning, I created the photography category in the first days posting was open, back then there was no reward or anything, but still I posted some photography because I like it and I liked to share it here, everyone liked it back then from the devs to the big guys no one was complaining about it, they thought it was good for the image of STEEM to have diversity in the posts. None of the photography I posted was my own, but I’m a long time photography enthusiast and I have an eye for it and know where to get good photography with credits. I did what I do out of love for photography and this project.

Months passed, all was OK, then after STEEM went big, things started to change, aggressive people started to show up out of nowhere trying to dictate what I can and cannot post, trying to bully me out of posting photography and videos I liked with all kind of claims, from copyright complete non sense claims, to plagiarism to content not being original and all kind of excuses. But the real reason is jealousy and envy, those people thought that they can also determine how much a post can get, they did not like it that I got votes and they did not.

I tried to explain my point of view, tried to reason with those people but nothing could be done, their hate was blinding them, and they were determined I should abide to their orders and be a good citizen.

This weekend things escalated, I have been slandered, defamed, threatened in posts and also in the slack police channel. I tried to respect people and discuss in a civilized way, but my fate was sealed.

I made a photography post today, in which I only posted my own text, and public domain photos, but it was too late, it was blindly down voted to oblivion by the blind hearted people and reported as plagiarism as well.

Worst is I was slandered again in the slack channel after coming to a gentlemen’s agreement with them, and some hateful people even contacted ned to un-vote one of my video posts he had voted for (which he did obviously because I’m the bad guy now, not like the old days!), they also contacted some of the people voting for my posts to stop doing it which they complied to under pressure.

Where was it written that only original content can be posted?

Who has the right to decide how much reward a post can get?

Who are you to tell people how to vote?

This place is starting to get worse than Reddit, with thought police, mod squads, astroturfing and fear mongering.

Finally, I would like to defend those of us who like to post stuff they like, even if they did not make it, it’s a right we have by all laws of the universe. This place will turn into a compilation of mugshots, and low quality content and articles if it is forbidden to also allow external content, it cannot survive!

Thank you for making me hate a place I once loved!

#steemitabuse #photography #steemit #steemabuseabuse
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@admin2017 ·
Thank you !
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@akaninyene-etuk ·
This story will make a good payout for you. Be happy.
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@akiregor · (edited)
@masteryoda ,I do feel the same way too. The feeling of being limited to what I want to post regardless if its mine or not. All I want is to inform everybody, what I want to share, to have insights from them, and to create conversations that will lead to some bonds and ties. Sometimes I dont mind getting rewards because I have all time in a day. But because of some envious users, things were flipped into other side. My question is, Why not be contented and be happy to others??? 
And to those who are still indifferent to some users, allow me to tell you this "We are being manipulated by the whales and bots. There is no standards here nor ISO Certification made by the SteemIt itself, and if there's any, you can find it on yourself. Go and free yourself, express what you feel and share what you have to share."
Freedom.
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@alex2016 ·
Hello! <b>Excellent article!</b>
Come to visit me. I'm a #photographer, and vote my photos:
<a href="https://steemit.com/post/@alex2016/photoshoot-kickboxer"> photoshoot-kickboxer </a>
<a href="https://steemit.com/post/@alex2016/next-photoshoot-click-here"> Next photoshoot </a>
<a href="https://steemit.com/photography/@alex2016/results-of-our-today-s-photoshoot-in-subject-of-the-anime">photoshoot Anime </a>
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@alexgr ·
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As I see it there should be just one simple rule for situations like these: If the content is not yours, give credit or original link, and that's the end of the story. Users can upvote, downvote or ignore it - but they will know whether you made it or someone else did.
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@liberosist ·
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We don't need to be told that, even! It's general courtesy to leave a credit at the end. I credit even when the source is a public domain gallery or something.
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@madhatting ·
Seems pretty easy to me.
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@stealthtrader ·
Here is a new type of post about my first salvia trip man please check it out and let me know what ya think :D



https://steemit.com/new/@stealthtrader/my-first-salvia-trip
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
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That's not the end of the story, though. 
Say someone makes a post praising my photo work which includes my photos in it. Fine, thanks for the praise, but if your praise racks up the equivalent of a downpayment for a home and outranks any money I made on it (since I was who put the effort into creating it in the first place), how is that fair? There needs to be some sort of system in place that rewards the creators in those situations. If it wasn't for them, the creation would not be there to share to begin with.
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@alexgr ·
In such cases it may depend on the copyright or other license that the original content is provided.
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@igster · (edited)
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Hmm, people are making money out of reviewing videogames on youtube, if you see people making money on your work on steemit, wouldn't this give incentive to the content creators to join Steemit themselves to reap the rewards?  I like to see the best material on Steemit, just like on reddit people are posting stuff that they haven't created, but think other people would like to see. Maybe, if one were to say, post someones photograph, he should inform him about Steemit and link to that post just to see what the platform is all about.

If Yoda is posting beautiful pictures to this platform for people to see, I say let him. There are people who go to photography just to watch beautiful pictures. But there should be information about the origin of the pictures and link to creators other stuff/website. I'd also like them to be informed about Steem, if possible.
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@allasyummyfood ·
Hey, I'm so sad to hear that and I only joined few days ago, my experience has been amazing, few haters but thats normal! Im sorry you having these issues, is there a way to report people who are abusive and trolling? Good luck :) Alla x
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@allmonitors ·
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@masteryoda envy is among the deadly sins, its evil and its contagious
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@masteryoda ·
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It is, unfortunately many ppl take it lightly, envy can destroy a person!
Thanks for your wise words!
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@allmonitors ·
you're very most welcome @masteryoda

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@amartinezque ·
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100 % of agreement, a thing is that the most valued  be the original content, another thing is that it is obligatory. I have seen many of your post and the photographies that you put are precious, even you indicate the one who is the author, about it it treats itself not? Steemit is a social network that values your passions and your interests. Then the people are free to vote or not vote, to comment or not comment, but your also you are free of postear what you wish. (Providing that it does not offend anybody). As they have said to him in other comments , the anger is normal, And you have reason in thinking that there is a lot of envy behind,  but also it is necessary to understand that this is beginning and we all commit mistakes, so much the staff of steemit as us, nobody is perfect, It will Be the time the one that puts order in all that.

A greeting and I expect to continue seeing your post!
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@anduweb ·
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I have been a steemer for over a week now. It was a very hard week, with ups and downs, with dreams and burns, launches and crashes. With only a handful of hours slept and cringes and blood-shot eyes. It was crazy and by the end of the week I also said: **THAT'S IT**, i'm deleting all my posts and moving away.
But this morning, *after a good night's sleep I might say*, I said **NO, I WON'T GIVE UP**. I don't care if my posts never reach the Trending page, or not even the Hot page. I believe in Steemit, in the idea of Steemit and I am going to keep posting my stuff without thinking about how successful they'll be and how much money is it going to make me. I have ideas that I want to share and if I help only a few people, so be it, I'll post it for them.

With bot lists, employer-employee whale relationships, promoted posts through a closed slack et all I could say I should stop and move on as it's bigger than me. But I won't and it's because of posts like yours that make the community show it's true face, a united face, that acts as one when it's right to do so. I saw the same community towards the end of last week with the responses off one of @johnsmith's post that went epic and where the comments were better than the article.
@masteryoda: I tell you, don't give up, stay for the people that follow you, don't quit for the people that downvote and collude against you.
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@johnsmith ·
$0.92
Oh the Steemit sleep deprivation... SSD! The comments on that post really showed how much potential Steemit has to connect people. It was an absolute blast to log on and find new comments waiting for a responses, like little Christmas presents on every refresh. There will be growing pains but I have faith, there's a lot of good people here. Steem on!
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@arcaneinfo ·
One thing I will agree with you about... The power some of these people hold they are holding it like its a crime to share! When I joined I was under the impression I was joining a community, a group of people living & partaken in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common. Obviously we are not living together but some of us has particular characteristics in common and we are all on this platform. I hope you have a change of mind I feel some of the whales and other's do not understand truly how to bring everyone in accord & will eventually take true charge and spread energy rightfully so we can spread and make this 100000x better and stronger! @masteryoda stay with us and keep inspiring.
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@artific · (edited)
$0.87
I totally agree. #decentralized means that there is no authority that orders people to obey their rules. 

This is decentralized social media and we are #free.
#love each other, don't #hate
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@stormbringer ·
$0.67
While the blockchain may be hard to censor, frontends to it (like Steemit), which essentially are just companies running a website, are not. Just wait and see what happens, if they start getting a shitload of nice, fluffy DMCA requests for copyright violations. This is not the 1990s. If copyrights are beeing violated, things tend to get ugly very quick nowadays.
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@artific ·
$0.76
Looks like the botwhales are extremely butthurt with the new hardfork that spoils their childish games. :D

They are flagging every bigmoney posts they possibly can for no other reason than being a pain in the ass.
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@autosmile13 ·
$0.63
i very good post
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@axiomprime ·
You didn't change, it's the environment that changed. I get it.<br>
People are protesting the whales voting for you. You must understand that what you're doing is not worth what you're receiving. And that this is almost exclusively because of the support whales have given you. It is a reflection of the plebs feeling disenfranchised. The invisible hand would manage the situation if Steem were more equally distributed.<br>
BUT DON'T GIVE UP!!! I liked your photography posts, and would upvote them without hesitation. I hope you decide to fight the abuse, not run from it.
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@bdavid ·
Wow, I know how you feel and I a new user.   I have been flagged for reposting some of my personal post.  I was only trying to see if a different title would make a difference on how many views it got, After it only got 6 or so likes.  I felt that it just wasn't being seen.  But apparently that isn't allowed
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@bendjmiller222 ·
$0.78
I'm sorry you had that experience within this community. Being kind and and helping others is what makes this community special. Obviously the community has reached out in a monetary way for two reasons 1.) because we value you and 2.) without a positive reputation, steemit will crumble an become greedy. I think in this commuity it should be welcomed to share pictures and videos you have not  created as long as you credit the author and people dont assume you created it. Just add your comments about what it means to you and why you shared it. Hope you stay here!
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@bestmalik ·
Keep share !!!  If you want !!!
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@bhokor ·
I am agree with you, but the way to improbe it is from inside, if you get out community will be weakest,  we need you masteryoda
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@birdcat ·
$0.69
If steemit getting to strict regarding copyright or license then its getting worst.
there are plenty of photography that stated in free- license, from all your post you credited the sources and its ok
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@blueciruit · (edited)
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@boarddavid ·
$0.67
If you are posting other peoples content  without crediting the source then yeah that's plagiarism, but from what I've seen from your previous posts, you've always credited the source and made it clear that the photos were not of your own work.
I recently found out that you can "write" a book based on another story and actually get the rewards from it - For instance [Romeo & Juliet Shakespeare Retold by Martin Waddell](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Juliet-Shakespeare-Retold-Martin-Waddell/dp/0749677538/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1469466591&sr=1-2&keywords=romeo+and+juliet+retold+by) which I find absolutely unbelievable! THAT in my eyes is plagiarism, as is something like [Selling copies of famous paintings and simply saying "this is a copy"](https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090703120302AA0wN5y)

Carry on how you was mate, ignore the unintelligible BOTS saying "we think this is plagiarized from somewhere else" and if it helps your OWN conscious perhaps you could look at donating some of your $'s you earn from said post(s) to the original artist/photographer/website/charity or other such thing, after-all, without YOUR posts showing those photos/pictures/art etc MOST of the people on Steemit might NEVER see it, you could be doing the artist/photographers etc a favour by sending people to their websites that might not have ever heard of them before...

Just my two cents...
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@bondor ·
Some salient points about this entire debate https://steemit.com/steemit/@moefbatpi/moefbatpi-cryptocurrency-and-copyright
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@brunopro ·
>"This place will turn into a compilation of mugshots, and low quality content and articles if it is forbidden to also allow external content, it cannot survive!" 

**Totally disagree**, if this platform starts to have original content it will have a stronger and exclusive content on the web. An external user may find an original article about depression or denial here on Steemit, for example. And if more and more contents born here, it's natural to say that this "library" will continue to grow each day.

By posting other people text, photos just by copy and paste it it's wrong! I'm not against sharing other things that aren't made by you (creator), but if a user uses them in a context or analysing them, putting some PERSONAL touch on it, giving an personal view or opinion, them the material the user used fit more in the category of "source" / "bibliografy".

Now I didn't understand what you're going to do... at least you're profiting for your sadness, nice profits while complaining.... only on steemit! lol

PS: I have nothing against you, I follow what you've been posting and have my own opinion. Some days ago I started to redflag all your stuff... (that bot posted the link to the original source where you got the images). But then, I thought that I sould check that last post, and it was not an 100% copy, it was more like a compilation, and you had used aso the credits to the original post... so I went back and removed all of the redflags... 

Although I don't agree 100% on what or how you're doing, I didn't want to push or bully no one here. Maybe you need to cooldown a little, use all the funds from this post (more than 4500$ for complain... only on steemit again)... and take a travel... write about it and share.. maybe you'll have some original content then.. 

Cheers m8 Namaste!
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@brunopro ·
# And more, this post of a crying user has reached the top of the listings, while a IMPORTANT and REAL issue that can affect all in the world goes low profile..

# This also shows that this platform lacks Maturity in all sorts of levels.

### https://steemit.com/steemit/@brunopro/very-important-if-you-re-in-europe-this-is-the-most-important-post-you-ll-see-today-regulators-are-deciding-the-future-of-europe

#### Now you decide if your upvote has more meaning here or an REAL post with REAL things....
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@tinfoilfedora ·
Welcome to the planet....
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@brunopro · (edited)
## I see all the post on your blog? what did you delete? wtf? care to explain?

# Is this a post scam and people fall to it?
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@brunopro ·
http://conselium.com/wp-content/uploads/Red-Flag.jpg
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@brunopro ·
### At the moment you have: $109,527.02 on you wallet... stop complaining.. all of that and more you probably have already withdrawn was make almost on 3rd party work, meaning, other people lost time and gave their most to create something. You pick that in seconds, compile and profit....

# you should be ashame of this post, it's insulting for all, sorry to be so direct.
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@rogue91 ·
@masteryoda was an original steemian I don't believe his sp came from posts but rather an initial investment.
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@doctorstrange ·
I've followed this user for awhile and know that the posts in question have been garnering several hundred to several thousand dollars each over the course of 3 months. I'm fairly certain that a good proportion of that money has come from posting YouTube videos and professional photographers work over this period of time.
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@brunopro · (edited)
And people are losing time in this post while, in 1 month theres one decision that may change all of our futures. EU net neutrality is at risk! We have to reach more people and raise global awareness!

http://i.imgur.com/Zp6kmCL.png
https://www.savenetneutrality.eu/ 
https://savetheinternet.eu/

more here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@brunopro/very-important-if-you-re-in-europe-this-is-the-most-important-post-you-ll-see-today-regulators-are-deciding-the-future-of-europe
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@btc.ctb · (edited)
$0.78
You should just ignore jealous people.  Steemit should give us option too set your wallet private.  Don't give up brother! Fuck hater's.
I saw a lot post on bitcointalk and other forums about steemit ponzi or scam, but i dont believe it. We must make  big,strong and helpful community. 
But this is same in real life, when you reach goal people should be happy and try to make it too(they just need to work hard), but no they are just angry and jealous. They dont try  to make own goal and this is biggest problem of jealous people.
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@business ·
$0.09
**If I got $3000 for hating something, I'd probably hate it too**
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@busser ·
Masretyoda, don't give up please! I've seen excellent photos in your blog. This cheetah thing is too dumb, maybe they'll fix it.
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@c082832 · (edited)
$0.09
I think my biggest issue was that every post of yours was nothing more than a whale circle jerk. The same whales upvoting all your posts while other original content does not, and in all fairness the quality of your posts in contrast are undeserving of the value. The value is derived by the same whales each time upvoting you, and in doing so keep your posts more visible/trending.

I do think to some point post like yours are fine, perhaps I'm wrong completely, but it was to the extent it was.

 I could post a bunch of  threads right now that deserve more than the 3k this post has, but it will never happen cause they don't have whale friends. 

Fuck here's 5 post I found in 2 minutes that deserve more recognition yet will never see likely more than a few cents for their quality posts. Why not ask @itsascam @steemed @steemroller as an example of 3 who upvote all your content to accurately currate good content. It won't happen, why? Cause it's all about you  

https://steemit.com/photography/@kapets123/my-collection-nochnyh-photo

https://steemit.com/photography/@jay-kopinski/i-don-t-know-anything-about-makeup-so-here-s-steemit-s-first-photography-tutorial-instead

https://steemit.com/japan/@dream/a-road-trip-through-japan-textures-and-the-hard-working-people-of-japan-day-1-3-the-tsukiji-fish-market

https://steemit.com/new/@greengo/tornado-near-dodge-city-kansas-may-24-2016

https://steemit.com/photography/@simba/ramon-crater-israel-part-2

Photography needs more people like @berniesanders
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@calaber24p ·
Dont give up , you are one of the people here I respect the most. People are jealous about the money you are making and trying to pick fights with you. Plagiarism is bad if you don'g source your material or pawn off pictures as your own but you haven't ever done that. When I post a Renior painting in art it isnt assumed that I made it, I just am trying to show people who havent seen the painting yet. Dont let those people get to you.
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@chadsphotos ·
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Haters gonna hate.. If your pissing people off, your probably doing something right!
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@cheftony ·
$0.31
don't leave and start to combat this system
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@christiantatsch ·
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Stupid people are everywhere. The problem is that most of them try hard to look cool. This is not the case on the internet ! Being annonimous they feel free to say shit.
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@cire81 ·
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Supporting you on this. So many funny people here nowadays.
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@cjclaro ·
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Quitting  will not make #steemit a better place. Nor will it eliminate  the  &quot;thought police, mod squads, astroturfing and fear mongering&quot;. 

Rather, #steemit will lose someone who really has compassion on what they do to make someone's day a much better option than yesterday. 

You don't &quot;quit&quot; on the people that you care about or on the place you love so much.  Rather,  you stay to protect it and the people who are in it, nurture them, care for them, help them from abusers so that when a similar adversary comes along, you have equipped them with the tools they need to be #victors rather than #quitters.

Be #vigilant instead of turning into #irrelevant. Fight the good fight. After all, who else will stand for the right if not you... or me or those who stand beside you.

There is no honor in surrender.  There is always something to fight for even up to the last breath.

So stay... and fight the good fight!
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@masteryoda ·
$0.32
Wow that's some really powerful words there!
Thank you cjclaro!
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@cjclaro ·
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you are most welcome @masteryoda ;-)
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@clevecross ·
$0.67
I've enjoyed your posts in the past. Never saw claims to be of photos you've taken. Please continue.
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@cloh76 · (edited)
What I have come to realize is that you can't please everyone.  From what I have learned about the Steem community, this is a place where people can share and discuss their common interests.  If you enjoy sharing photography that you have found and think it is worthy of sharing with other people, then by all means that is your right.  Only thing is to give credit where credit is due and by the sounds and looks of it, you do just that.   Ignore all the negative responses, down votes, and haters - obviously there are a lot more people who support and value the material you share.  I hope you will continue to post, share, and make this community a stronger and better place.
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@coar ·
I don't like this post cause its bad news! 
So I upvote him.  What can you do in this situation? Nothing,
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@coar ·
yes
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@condra ·
$0.06
Don't you mean .. Why I Removed All My Posts ...
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After making 100,000 dollars in a couple of weeks
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@eeks ·
This is needlessly negative, no?
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@condra ·
$0.22
I don't think so. I'm just highlighting what I believe is gargantuan hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance. Das just me tho.
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@creationlayer ·
$0.72
hey at least you're honest that takes courage. sorry this happened to you.
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@crok ·
$0.81
Simple; the only way to let evil profit is to fail to vote in the November election.

The only way for terrorists to win is to give into their demands or act or react as they try and force youto do...

The only way for trolls to win is too respond norinteract with their demented flames...

Always avoid cancers like bigots, racists, trolls etc ;  and surgically remove them from your life
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@cryptogee ·
$2.83
Please, please, please, don't let these idiots hound you out; at the end of the day, you presented your posts in a particular way, nicely curated and well thought out.

I voted for you several times and I loved your week in pictures, people were jealous because of the fact you had started something before they were here and they can't handle that fact.

Ignore them, keep posting, if people want to vote they'll vote, the flag abusers are only harming themselves in the long run.

*Cg*
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@fairytalelife ·
@cryptogee, yes - posts are great. But @masteryoda is still getting compensated for the work he may not have permission to use. Thats the real issue. @masteryoda, do you have actual permission? Or have you worked out an agreement that the photographers will be getting percentages in a contract? I have been a professional illustrator for over 26 years, and I can guarantee that no other professional artist/photographer would willingly give up rights to their work for someone else to profit from it. I'm sorry you were hounded and berated in the ways you were. At the same time, I hope you will make sure you have full legal permission in writing with terms agreeable to the photographers to post what you do if only to protect yourself from lawsuits.
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@usefree ·
Producing a great content is not enough. Producer should be able to take crowd's attention to the great content. If he can not to do this, he should be thankful to people, who can do this. And the royalty for producer will be crowd's attention for his future works.
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@cryptohacks51 ·
I think your post is just looking for sympathy. You are a witness and you are known by whales, better make a post that is more useful for the progress of steemit than you make a post like that. I much appreciated if you create more quality posts.
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@ctsutla ·
My friend introduced me to this site not to long ago. I checked it out and I like what I see, however I see people looking to get rich quick and able to quit their jobs and yadda yadda. I want steemit to stay quality blogs and what people are truly passionate about, not just a quick way to make money. People repost things on facebook al the time and no one is calling it stolen. Keep fighting the good fight. Maybe steem will return back to what it is meant to be and not a quick way to get rich.
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@cyberdesire ·
money for wait ...
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@dana-edwards ·
You make good points. I agree with you that a post should get whatever it's really worth without people acting out of envy or jealousy to try to put a cap on the value of a post. I can understand if a post is abusive then maybe and if your post had some sort of questionable or illicit content then maybe not vote for it, or maybe flag it, but if the post follows the rules and no one is hurt then I see no point to voting it down.

The issue with voting it up if it's illicit is that if known whales do this like Ned or Dan then it could effect their reputations. Reputations they must maintain to do business with others who believe in copyright even if they might not. At the same time if you get anonymous or pseudo-anonymous votes from minnows then this in my opinion should be okay. There are countries in the world where copyright doesn't matter and not everyone is a US citizen.
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@danieleder ·
1. using other peoples photos is copyright violation
2. if you let others determine your emotional state you need to grow spiritually
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@darkb4dawn · (edited)
$569.31
masteryoda, do or do not there is no try! DO what you feel you need to. As long as you are giving proper credit to the creator of the work and citing your sources that is absolutely not plagiarism. ZERO, it is totally legit! DO NOT fear fair use. It is extremely complex. It is very important that Steemit.com, is allowed to be a source information and to be an aggregated news source. This is an enormous source of traffic and every social media site depends on it deeply. I know your intention was to share cool stuff, to spread the word. That is called the NEWS. A completely legit form of fair use.  As long as you are not just using the images to make your post look cool, as long as your post is to pass along a bit of news you should be good to go. 
"the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phone records or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.-socialmediaexaminer.com" 
Reproducing digital images is allowed, make sure to use a lower resolution image than the original work. This helps protect the curator from being threatened with copying the work. Again always site the source, provide a link, and credit the creator. It will also help the case for any news article to add some of your own critisism and commentary along with the transmitted material.
All the news channels and other social media sites make buko $$ from passing along news, so I suspect the Steem we receive is not really the problem. 
Obviously I am not the even close to the final voice on this. That said, I do support you and I support others as people work to figure out how to safely present sharing cool stuff on Steemit.com. I say safely beacause due to plagerized work and improperly credited shared items, Steemit.com could face serious legal problems and the site could even be taken down. Which would SUCK.
-Peace

some easy links for fair use information

http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/copyright-fair-use-and-how-it-works-for-online-images/

https://www.rivaliq.com/blog/guide-copyright-fair-use-laws-online-images/

http://guides.library.ucla.edu/citing/fairuse

also a link to a post I made a week or so ago about a question I had regarding fair use
https://steemit.com/steemit-issues/@darkb4dawn/copyrighted-material-and-fair-use-on-steemit
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@jedau ·
$0.96
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Nice touch @darkb4dawn to include links explaining the boundaries. The fact is, the online world can be pretty cruel sometimes. The anonymity protects our privacy, but also provides us the power to engage in bullying without consequences. It can't be helped. Engaging them would be totally up to you.

I get where you're coming from @masteryoda. You like photography and you like to share it with everyone. That's all well and good, especially if you abide by fair use. There would be no harm done, and you even make money on the side. But, as a poster of original content, I see where they're coming from as well. It's hard to see that re-posts earn more than your carefully thought-out original work. That's just the way it is currently. Until the creators of Steemit enable creators to show off their original content for an amount of time so that many people would take notice, posters would just have to market their work more heavily. However, bullying is not the way, and there are better avenues to convey their stand.

For now, you just need to solidify your choice regarding the matter. Stick with Steemit, earn some money on the side and face the criticism, or just quit and call this a learning experience. Just get along can't we all?
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@dasan-oneia ·
$0.76
i completely agree with you these people act as if the platform is their creation and that it is their money being used to vote on content they don't like. 
Some even create accounts just so they can give out more down-votes on posts they think is making to much money.
 Its ridiculous they have some vision in their head that they're imposing on everyone. 
This platform is supposed to be free and  there needs to be a wide diversity of content created, and shared from many different sources.
now that Steemit is hereI really don't have much interest in other social media sites i would rather stay right here on Steemit and if people share content from other places and people find value in it and vote that is their business and right to use their property in any way that they feel as long as they're are not trespassing on other rights. 
But man dont leave dont let them win they are being evil dictators thinking justifying their action in the name of protecting Steemit. 
We cant give in to their jealous intent . 
We have to fight back till they stand down.
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@daycrypter ·
Hear Hear
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@daycrypter ·
Just looking over your post masteryoda. Please don't leave. I too love photography and have posted some of mine from over the years. You do provide beautiful content and put much original effort an opinions along side. Inspires me to do better on steemit. Cheers Mick 
https://steemit.com/travel/@daycrypter/blockchaining-some-of-my-favoutite-travel-pic-s-i-took-over-the-years
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@dayslight · (edited)
I don't think that you should be removing your posts from Steemit. I think you should keep on adding stuff that you used to, after all every thing count for the reason and you see how much people have up voted this post take it as a challenge and keep on doing your stuff. It is the only way to stop haters and win your goal. Good Luck!
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@decrypt ·
well where there is money there is sure to be a congregation of dickheads.  

i agree with you.  just have to learn to not give them any attention.

at the end of the day if the founders are really dumb enough to get suckered in by them well then some new network will come along that is not dependent on mega-whale founders.
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@deeallen ·
I'm just going to speak up here and say I don't know how to remove posts. Tried, failed. How??
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@dev ·
I agree with you. 

Only that I also have an opinion that there should be some way where original creators are recognized. If their original content is not up to the mark, it is fine. But if they are top notch and do not get due recognition Steemit may not able able to build value. 

I think Steemit was found with a great vision to help people. I do not see that happening if original creators, who are not well known, are not found and encouraged.

No organisation achieved greatness only with few established leaders. An important aspect of great organisations is that they create new leaders at every step. 

Thanks
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@dnsz ·
Dont give up only because some people can stand you having more popularity than then.  If steemit wants to become a community the size of reddit or facebook it needs people like you. Keep the good work and the good post coming!
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@drinkzya ·
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@masteryoda I don't know if you remember our Slack conversation, but basically the conversation was about how I wasn't able to pick up any traction and you said something along the lines of just post what makes you happy. Well, my next post I did, and it hit and it was entirely about just posting what makes you happy, I am pretty sure it would have kept going if the site had not gone down 2 hours after I posted it. Like many others have said, maybe you just need a step back, you are an inspiration to many here and nobody wants to see you go. just my three cents.
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@dwinblood · (edited)
$0.83
That type of action (not yours) makes me really angry.   I saw the down vote brigade hitting posts with nothing wrong with them this weekend other than they were high in the trending list.     I also saw people referring to steemit as a Ponzi scheme.

I had enough and thought I needed to post something.   It didn't get MUCH traction, but I still think it is relevant and it is my attempt to stop the same thing you were attempting to stop.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@dwinblood/not-a-ponzi-scheme-seems-like-a-new-paradigm-up-votes-regardless-of-topic-help-us-all

I am making  a list of my own of people I see down voting posts that don't have anything unavoidably offensive, not plagiarizing other steemit users, etc.

Looking for patterns.   I AM starting to see some.

EDIT:   Also, I have noticed the weekend LACKS activity from of the high steem powered people.   Often their votes negate these people improperly flagging posts.   As my list is showing almost all of them are pretty low in the steem power.   Lower than me, and my vote doesn't generally do much.   So it only takes one vote from someone with good steem power to negate their effect.    Sadly, the weekends are nowhere near as active with high steem powered people as during the week.   Sunday's are particularly low.
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@eeks ·
$1.47
Sorry to see you go, I loved your space post. :(
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@elargroup ·
Steemit conquer the internet! I believe in it !
http://linkme.ufanet.ru/images/2de4631be1b0c3c84569085ab834c7b1.gif
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@eric-boucher ·
$0.04
Hum... A lot of my photos have disappeared from my blog over the past little while and it makes me wonder if someone has had the ability to steal my work out of my blog!?! If it is only for sharing it would be great, but in this case, they are entirely disappearing from my blog, which is seriously not cool, for me and most especially for the people wanting to read and enjoy my posts. Namaste  :)
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@fabiocortes10 ·
$0.74
Some people want to controll and decide what is the right to do or not, like everything in real-life, They're only concerned with themselves .
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@fabiocortes10 ·
To support you.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@fabiocortes10/why-sharing-information-is-becoming-commonplace-in-steemit-what-is-the-best-thing-to-do
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@fairytalelife ·
As an artist, I have to agree with @doctorstrange. Sharing the photographs for their beauty is one thing. And the photographers should be given credit, as they are. But @masteryoda is receiving compensation from their work, and that is the real issue. Now if he gave them percentages from the posts, that's different. Then you could say he was like a representative of some sort, and they would still be getting paid from the rep's pocket. Fair use is approaching each photographer and getting permission to use the images - credits aren't enough if @masteryoda is getting paid and they are not. And if there's an argument for &quot;exposure&quot; for the photographers, that won't pay the rent. I would be pretty pissed if someone was using my images and getting paid somewhere for posting about them without my knowledge or consent. I think some very important laws here set in place to protect artists are being ignored, and this must change. @masteryoda, I'm sure you meant no harm. I have enjoyed your posts too. But this whole thing has made me rethink where I stand on using art on steemit. If they are someone else's photographs and you are getting paid while all they get is a credited photo, that is unethical.
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@firepower · (edited)
$0.84
This is a hypocritical and pointless debate. No one batted an eyelid all these years on various social media platforms. Now that we know how much an author makes from a payout we are compelled to raise a red flag? The real issue is within us and not the laws regarding content that is selected from various sources and shared on this platform with credit to the content owners.  Everyone one from your basement blogger to the top news agencies on the web and print do it and yet because of this transparent system of Steemit we are pissed about how much similar content gets upvoted. Everyone of us thinks that our own content/photography/opinions is golden! It's time to wake up to the reality that it may not always be the case!  If you feel that you are not being paid enough on Steemit to post/write/share/curate content I strongly suggest you to pitch your ideas in the traditional way to an editor of a paper/mag/website and learn how difficult it is to even earn a cent. Be grateful if you've made even a $.01 on Steemit and move on to the next blog post. If you think it's not worth your time, start a regular blog and learn to monetize it. You'll know in 1 hour how difficult it is. Live and let live and stop bashing each other. Use the time to create value that can be consumed and shared. :) Cheers.
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@flandude ·
How do you remove a post?!
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@foxkoit ·
STEEMIT FOLLOW ... JUST A SMALL STEP
https://steemit.com/follow/@foxkoit/steemit-follow-just-a-small-step
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@framelalife ·
Haters are always going to hate. Don't let it ruin your experience. The thing about Steemit and earning, is there will always be those that criticize. I think that people are starting to forget what social media is. It's not about blogging 100% original content for every single post. We share things on FB and Twitter every day that are important news stories, youtube videos, memes,  art, links, etc. That's what social media is. Now that you have a platform that rewards people, some seem to think that if what you shared is not 100% original, created by you, then you don't deserve any money.

Well, consider this, I could create the most awesome piece of content, yet I have zero or very little following. It can be the greatest content to ever hit the internet, and people  may never know. So, unless someone else on social media, shares it to their users and followers, it will never go viral. 

So, who really deserves the reward? What is this really all about?

If I created a great Youtube video, and someone, anyone shared it on their platform, and that led to growth in my following and brand, I'd say it's well worth them getting their slice.

In the social media world, content creators do not make things go viral, the people  who enjoy the content and share it, are what is viral.

That being said, I see the arguments against plagiarism, and I really do enjoy some of the original content here.
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@gabbans ·
you have every right to be upset, but the truth is; if an observation is made know, what i would expect you to do is to wait for peoples feedback and see what reaction people have towards your observatoin , and  also probably watch and see what the communit perspective is on the community forum. this can now give at least the direction that is fit  to take whather positive or otherwise.. but i deeply think we need you here. so please dont leave
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@gazm ·
I understand where these hateful people are coming from but it makes no damn sense to me.. Ever since the internet existed people have been sharing content, as long as its not claimed as yours I don't see a problem.
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@generalspecific · (edited)
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I can understand your frustration, and I don't think you've been breaking any rules, so vehement slandering of your name is probably unnecessary, but I will say two things:

You've made a pretty substantial amount of money already, with very little effort. Some people are putting a lot of effort into writing quality stuff, while you've cornered the market on selecting other people's content to post here. Not that your selections aren't good (clearly they are, or no one would be voting for them), but given the effort:reward ratio, I'm not really sure why you're complaining.

More importantly, you're right in that it's not written anywhere that only original content can be posted - but just because we *can* post other people's content here doesn't mean we *should*. I've occasionally posted something from elsewhere on the internet because I think it's worthy of praise, but instead of spending all my time doing that, I prefer to focus my efforts on creating original, thoughtful, valuable content, because that's the kind of thing I want to see on Steemit.  Perhaps the message everyone is sending you here is that they want the same thing - because if everyone does things your way just because it's profitable, Steemit will cease to be original and just become another infinite loop of reposted content on the internet. In my opinion, we don't need another one of those.

The bottom line, and Steemit rule number one: **what's popular today might not be popular tomorrow**. So my suggestion is to focus on changing your strategy rather than complaining because it's fallen out of fashion.
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@jamtaylor · (edited)
Seconded.
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@gilang-ramadhan ·
pliss votes and comend back 
https://steemit.com/steemit/@gilang-ramadhan/hii-steemer-complain
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@giostar · (edited)
$0.74
It's all about timing I guess @masteryoda


http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/8/ae63e4a0-03b9-0132-0754-0eae5eefacd9.gif?
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@goodtimes ·
$0.32
Thank you for your post. You've described problems that I suspected would develop. Here are other concerns that I have...

Steemit has a whale-reward system where whales tend to influence content. Steemit is just one step from being yet another government monitored social media site where honest opinion risks future moderation. Steemit is growing through rabid supporters that will viciously attack anything that seems outside of the cult following. Stemit rewards the re-posting of content and ideas with nicer presentation or better timing; original works can get buried by a mountain of copycats. 

It sounds like the hostility you experienced is a symptom of these concerns, particularly the "buried by copycats" problem. People feeling the pain of these problems are directing their anger poorly. Steemit has systemic flaws that will hopefully be resolved over time if this is to be a place that rewards original content more than cult following.
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@masteryoda ·
$0.33
"yet another government monitored social media site where honest opinion risks future moderation"
Sad but seems like they are already here!
R.I.P Aaron Swartz
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@gowest ·
please give learn  tutorial for vote, because new here
tq 4 anything :D
keep smile
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@groovy ·
$0.02
Hey @masteryoda.  I have a feeling you are a nice guy and as such you made friends with all the original people who were testing this system and it was nice having that support that no matter what you posted you would get those nice up votes.  This reaction to what is happening is not your fault. It's the fault of the people who created this system. You see inequality, insider trading, The Ins, being part of the club,  the top 1%, these all explain systems that have been set up to cheat the other person, eliminate competition, control society, maintain powers, etc. This is what this system has become and as it progresses more and more people will become mad by it. You see cryptocurrency is supposed to be a non centralized , decentralized system. However this community is far from decentralized. The power is centralized to the original test group and the programmers.  It is controlled at every level. That is why post I do make cents and posts you do make thousands of dollars.  For instance if you mine bitcoin then you know that a certain amount of power will yield you a certain return. However with steemit there is no relation to anything.  I hope you get the gist here. Unfortunately egos have gotten in the way once again and voices are not being heard as far as how fair or not this platform is. I am pretty sure my account has been put on some shit list since I have an opinion that is not 100% positive towards the platform. But as I have explained before I love steem and steemit however I want to see it grow into something great and the way it is rigged right now it will never get as big as it can because it is not built on strong principles of true equality.  Just like super delegates that steel the voice of the people the whales control too much and so someone will create a more fair system and you will see steemit die. Not that I want that. That is why I am telling everyone this. A change can be made.
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@holzmichl ·
Another 3000 USD for this copy & paster. Unbelievable!
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@holzmichl ·
I want my money back, fraudster!
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@hptjpanime13 ·
$0.78
People really need to read the WhitePaper. Even if content isn't original and its copied from someone else is irrelevant. If you liked what you read or what you viewed, then this social platform is working. Almost everything posted on reddit is ReHashed from somewhere else.
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@hrottie ·
$436.94
This is a very big problem with community in steemit for now.


Unluckily,you get money here,and other people can see how much you got it.
That means the envy and jelousness is getting to work,and changing people.

They hate seeing you posting new,great photos (like u did already,i have really enjoyed watching them!) and they are saying it is a plagiarism and reporting you just because of a simple reason-they know you are going to get money from it.


However don't worry my friend,steemit is upgrading everyday.
We got BETA now,so you need to wait some time if you are not alright with posting new photos now,i would be happy if you do :)
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@hschim ·
$0.65
You can not let the Darkside of the force over take you materyoda just like you had taught a young Padawan boy many moons ago.  
&quot;To answer power with power, the Jedi way this is not. In this war, a danger there is, of losing who we are&quot;– Yoda
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@iamwne · (edited)
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I have cross posted content that I have and was confronted. I am posting disclaimers now when I do that. I have been lucky. When I tell them that I own the content they back down. There is not really any comprehensive new user orientation but this could be just attributed to how new the platform is. There is definitely hidden cultural ethic that seems to haunt the place. You find out afterwords what is out of line. I am pretty conserative on most of my posts but I do have one downvote. I am not sure the person even read my post. If you read it, it just says that I really like the platform and am willing to take some pain in the process of posting and producing content. https://steemit.com/steemit/@iamwne/a-little-pain-a-little-pleasure-steemit-bondage Perhaps the pictures were too much.. mosts of my posts are more timid and tries to bolster the platform. https://steemit.com/steemit/@iamwne/persistence-approach-to-steemit-a-practical-guide
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@ionlysaymeep ·
$0.65
meep
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@izzy ·
$0.69
Upvoted! Here is my and the authors view on this. Https://steemit.com/steemit/@izzy/why-steem-is-the-real-libertarian-platform
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@j8son ·
what can i say..
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@james-show ·
I am more or less of the completely opposite opinion, on most issued raised in the post.
To read the full of my take on that and why go to my post - [Steemit Is Not A Casino](https://steemit.com/steemit/@james-show/the-truth-is-what-is-shown-on-the-trading-page-is-not-what-is-happening-for-99-of-the-platforms-users-we-are-minnows-but-we-can)
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@decrypt ·
Instead of writing about it why don't you just go live in Afghanistan or some other wacko country where freedom of expression is limited.
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@jameswoods ·
I feel the same way, I'm about to give up on it myself. I gotta think about real life since my post don't pay my bills.
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@jayjustmay ·
I've been seeing cases like this one more and more and it only serves to strengthen my ideas about where this platform could be headed and it ain't good if people don't straighten the hell up. And I'm talking about those throwing shade, especially those who do it blindly.
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@jbouchard12 ·
@masteryoda we love you. 
And you left before you could see the pix i was talking about taking!!
https://steemit.com/travel/@jbouchard12/merrimack-river-adventure
If you see @my then thank you!
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@jed78 ·
$0.76
As with anything  that involves people, there will always be a few who feel the need to try to hammer their will onto others, And we all know how the interwebs work, the anonymity gives the unpowerful a large hammer.
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@jeff-anthony ·
$0.31
I would suggest being completely upfront about the licensing. If its in the public domain or creative commons state that. There are also fair use standards about remixing content which can protect you, not just legally, but perhaps with the townsfolk ready to carry pitchforks and torches to your door.
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@jennamarbles · (edited)
$0.95
To be the first hard. It is a difficult path. I'm trying to develop an idea of goodness and charity on STEEMIT, because I believe that in the future he may become one of the best places for this. I don't need no glory not the money. But I was constantly trying to blame my dishonesty. I understand you Master. We have to fight. Look at all these people for you. Continue. 

https://wtf.jpg.wtf/6f/9c/1466953569-6f9c111d008c36e04444eabc81444fd3.gif
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@razvanelulmarin · (edited)
fuck me sideways!. this gif is amazing
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@jenniferjotter ·
$0.74
Success is always the envy of people who consider other people's money
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@jesika ·
$0.65
I have always liked your posts. Don't let someone bully your down. Sometimes, you have to work hard to create something you love. We need more guys like you :)
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@jholdsworthy ·
You are absolutely right sir. Steemit SHOULD be a decentralized place for all of us, but it is just another playground for haters and manipulators.

What we need is not to get rid of whales, but rather change the community's perspective on how things should be run. We shouldn't be posting something solely out of profit - the aim is to achieve a social media platform for everyone, instead of a get rich quick platform.

Also, we've gotta make the platform more decentralized. Power is centralized, owner owns majority of the currency in the system. The owners can do whatever they want, as they own the site.

However, quitting doesn't really help. We need MORE people like YOU to campaign for change, instead of backing out and giving up. We need MORE voices like YOU even if we're not getting the attention that we need.

I just hope that Steemit can be a better place for all of us in the future.
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@jillstein2016 ·
http://img.memecdn.com/why-the-fuck-are-you-so-serious_o_1130473.jpg
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@johnsmith ·
$0.81
Trolls are starting to feed. You have my sympathy and my support. Also, the downvoting. What's with that? I wrote a solid post, did very well. A few hours before payout it got slammed with more than 20 downvotes. Not one of them commented or gave a reason for doing so. Knocked almost $3k off the reward. Why? What is with people? Can't they see this is a good thing for everyone? I don't understand.
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@artific ·
$0.80
Those people are jealous of people that have created successfull original posts and want to destroy the spirit of others so they can keep posting their crap. Some trolls here have bought big steem power to demolish steemit from inside.
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@johnsmith ·
$0.78
You know, if I was Facebook or Reddit this wouldn't be a bad idea. It would be a very good idea, in the baddest way.
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@joiflores ·
Thanks for sharing.

Please, take a look at my post, I hope you find this information useful.

https://steemit.com/steem/@joiflores/how-the-system-works-part1-inside-job

https://steemit.com/steem/@joiflores/how-does-the-system-works-part2-inside-job
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@jonnyrevolution ·
$0.02
To each their own....I mean truthfully what a great way to get upvotes. I've seen a lot of good on the platform. I mean even if there is bad blood on an old post, I personally would just move on to the next one.
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@jrfantasma ·
$0.74
My friend steemit is still beta, which we have right now is patience and persistence, that over time the trolls will disappear, do not hate the steemit because she loves you and will make you very happy yet.
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@juanmora ·
In a way heis right,but in another you cannot wait perfect posts daily :/
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@jupiter00000 · (edited)
$0.86
This is one of my favorite posts ever, because its so honest and raw. EDIT: I have withdrawn my vote because I am boycotting support for all whales.
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@jupiter00000 ·
$0.03
Withdrawing my vote because I am boycotting support for posts from all whales.
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@jupiter00000 ·
$0.04
You've made over $100,000 on Steemit, and yet here you are making thousands more by resorting to a brilliant social extortion or a [click-bait rebellion against the platform.](https://steemit.com/steemitabuse/@masteryoda/why-i-removed-all-my-posts)

I am also a troll. [I know](https://steemit.com/confessionsofatroll/@jupiter00000/i-am-a-troll) how a troll operates.

I attempted a [similar protest](https://steemit.com/steemit/@jupiter00000/steemit-boycott-already-yup) against whales such as yourself. The difference was, mine was supported by Steemit's creator because it suggested using its economic structure to initiate the changes we like.

As curators, we have the right to choose. 

I say to you, @masteryoda, the curators have spoken.

@doctorstrange summed it up very well [here](https://steemit.com/steemitabuse/@masteryoda/why-i-removed-all-my-posts#@doctorstrange/re-liberosist-re-masteryoda-why-i-removed-all-my-posts-20160725t174007425z)

http://www.relatably.com/m/img/memes-hot-chicks/girl-facts-5.jpg

#steemit #steemitabuse

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@jupiter00000 ·
$0.04
non-original content creates legal trouble in budding companies.

Its just logic.
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@justdoit73 ·
$0.31
Guys, stop! 
We gathered at Steemit to share good content, get to know each other. 
@ned and @dan created this place for this. Getting money only has to maintain the interest of communication. 
But in this post, where @masteryoda just wanted an explanation I saw of this mud, which is not seen in a while. He just post content! There was no stealing other people's photos, introduces. Stop downvote.
Let's be human!
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@juvyjabian ·
But still you have upvotes. I am jealous with guys like you @masteryoda
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@karchersmith ·
$0.69
When people post other peoples content they should be given credit, or cite their sources, if not it is plagiarism am I right?
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@smooth ·
$0.67
You are correct. @masteryoda always gave credit.
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@kenjiby · (edited)
Totally agree  with you, mate, we're on your side
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@groovy ·
Your exactly right a, "Whale Circle Jerk". And this is how the whole world will see steemit soon if they do not change something.
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@knozaki2015 · (edited)
$0.02
hi!
please don't leave.

i agree with one thing, the content we are posting should be ours, or at least you have to give credit to the person creating it.

some will say, well dude, my friends posts pictures which they found online all the time.

yes, i know but the difference is, that normally on facebook a picture is not visible to anybody except your friends (at least if you set it up that way in acccount privacy)

but there is one more important point, if you earn money here, than you have commercialy profited from someone else work. so we cant complain if they try to sue if there work is used without their content.

I have many musicans and artist as friends, they even share for free on soundcloud etc. but they get all pissed if someone else making money of their work. 

so lets be fair to the artist, without them our lifes would be so much more boring!? 

if you agree give me a little upvote on this comment, and please give steemit a try, just ignore these guys trying to kill you here!

https://steemit.com/steemit/@knozaki2015/my-upvote-was-worth-5-06-usd-25300-or-how-to-earn-the-maximum-curation-reward
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@adamt ·
Thanks  - have upvoted!
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@kondrat ·
Как Ρƒ вас получаСтся Π΄Π΅Π»Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ посты??? I need help ^))
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@konstantin ·
Dont be worry, stay positive)
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@konti ·
<h1>Recognition is the greatest motivator </h1>
UP STEEM POWER and and you know in all the world
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@krabgat ·
$0.72
I don't see a problem to post other people stuff as long as you give them credit. This is a very old rule when you work with other's intellectual property. So, please don't give up. The choices you make what is interesting to you is something of you that you share with us.
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@robertl ·
You cannot post other people stuff in a commercial use.. you need to have license. Is very clear!
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@decrypt · (edited)
it's a new paradigm.  clearly you don't get it!

go back to reddit and facebook troll!
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@kryptik · (edited)
$0.31
Guess what bud? This shit is aiming to be immutable. Therefore post whatever the fuck you want. Worst case scenario you don't get up votes.

FREEDOM OF EXPRESSING WHATEVER YOU LIKE HERE, IMO IS THE SOUL OF THIS THING. 

Unfortunately with that being said everyone is entitled to their opinions and you have to be open to criticism. 

Ass-holes tend to have the loudest voices. Our brains focus more on negative events than positive events. By the looks of it tons of people are enjoying your stuff. Happy people don't tend to be as vocal.

Keep posting, even if it's just to annoy the trolls.
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@kus-knee ·
$0.02
Am I missing something? I see many posts listed under @masteryoda and from my point of view the condition of your wallet is spectacular!  In any case the reaction to this post has been both positive and financially rewarding!
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@leprechaun ·
$0.65
Wow, so many flags.   Why?
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@liberosist · (edited)
$1,238.61
I know you are upset - you are completely right to be. But please don't give up. You have been one of the few valuable contributors to Steemit. You are among the few dozen people I follow.

Steemit is still in beta. We should expect trolls, bigots and nastiness. We should expect unfairness. I'm confident things will even out on the long run. These miscreants will be driven into irrelevance and will give up. 

Of course, there will continue to be problems, but on the long run, I think Steemit deserves a chance. 

If you are really upset, perhaps you can take a break and come back a few months later when the platform has matured. But then again, we need steemers like you to make this a solid community.
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@brunopro ·
$0.20
to @masteryoda :

### At the moment you have: $109,527.02 on you wallet... stop complaining.. all of that and more you probably have already withdrawn was make almost on 3rd party work, meaning, other people lost time and gave their most to create something. You pick that in seconds, compile and profit....

# you should be ashame of this post, it's insulting for all, sorry to be so direct.
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@decrypt ·
don't be a dickhead...
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@criptomen ·
Tomorrow things change,the excess will be filtered out ,and the mode is still Beta.
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@cynetyc ·
Hello masteryoda! 
These things (trolls , etc) are bound to happen  as the site is in a constant state of growing. Don't let this drag you down and continue making posts and pictures. You should just post what you like not what others dictate you to do , because everytime will be that &quot;one&quot; guy who doesn't like you and he will keep trolling you until you give up.  
I am a new guy here and I just start to better understand the site  and I your post have good value , so to me that is a sign to never give up.... only one time you can say things are bad and that is when you post something here and you dont receive not even one single vote  or a comment ...or at least a dislike (that flag button) .  But this is not a case for you so keep making pictures and post any content you like!
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@darkriser ·
i see no rules no where :) i just see steam power
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@dennis-estenson · (edited)
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I hate to say it, but it's almost like we need to make people pass a test before joining steem. 
In school, we are taught all of the most basic rules of publishing, such as grammar and how not to plagiarize. Do we need steem to test us on what we learned before we post so that it can remain a civilized place? Don't people know they shouldn't plagiarize, and how to refer to things in a way so it's not plagiarism? This is ridiculous.
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@doctorstrange · (edited)
$24.12
Masteryoda said:

## > Finally, I would like to defend those of us who like to post stuff they like, _even if they did not make it_, it’s a right we have by all laws of the universe.

You say it yourself. You want to post stuff here that __you don't own__. You feel that this is a right given to you by the laws of the universe. But you have been told time and again that this is not a law of the universe to just take anything you see on the internet and post it without the permission of the creators of that content. Especially, as in the case of the photographs where on the original site it says under no circumstances is this to be used.

Here is a comment I made about your situation yesterday. Unfortunately I missed the window to join the Slack channel or I would have been there to try and explain this to you one to one. That you made a lot of money and are suggesting that people were envious as to why you were "hounded" are red herrings to get others to not look at the facts. Hopefully my message here will make that clearer. I don't have animosity towards you directly, just that what you did was not ethical and that is what we are complaining about. If you have legal grounds to continue profiting from others content without their knowledge, then please bring such proof forward and we that are complaining could see the error of our ways. 

========


# Steemed said in his interview:

 >  I look for that personal touch, a potential for serious creativity, post cohesiveness, and reading times in the 3+ minute range. I am especially moved by those who relate their experiences and how those experiences manifest in their creativity.

So in the case of @masteryoda, one of those on your list, where he takes images from avax.news which in turn took images from the BBC, this is promoting whose creativity exactly?

 >   WARNING: Use of this copyright image is subject to the terms of use of BBC Pictures' Digital Picture Service (BBC Pictures) as set out at www.bbcpictures.co.uk. In particular, this image may only be published by a registered User of BBC Pictures for editorial use for the purpose of publicising the relevant BBC programme, personnel or activity during the Publicity Period which ends three review weeks following the date of transmission and provided the BBC and the copyright holder in the caption are credited. For any other purpose whatsoever, including advertising and commercial, prior written approval from the copyright holder will be required.

How about the reposted pictures from the Sony World Photography Awards:

>    Open Competition winner​ - $5,000 (USD) / Sony digital imaging equipment / Flights and accommodation to the awards ceremony in London / Included in exhibition at Somerset House, London

While the rest of the contestants get no financial prize and just gear and exposure.

>    Category winners - Sony digital imaging equipment / Publication in winners’ book / Included in exhibition at Somerset House, London

>    Shortlist - Digital exhibition at Somerset House, London / Publication in winners’ book

The grand prize winner in the open competition gets less than some of the copy and paste posts you support. In the professional category the grand prize was 25,000 dollars, while @masteryoda has picked up an estimated value of 100,000 dollars minimum in the 3 months he's been posting on Steemit.com. He has pulled out his Steem dollars, to the tune of thousands in the last 2 days, Is currently powering down his Steempower as well, so his "work" in 3 months has earned him more than top photographers during a year:

>    Photographers in the United States pull down an average of $15.06 per hour. In the world of Photographers, overall cash earnings stretch from $21K near the bottom to $90K near the top

source: [payscale.com](http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Photographer/Hourly_Rate)


## Sea change ahead

Let's be clear on my position, I think that Steemit.com, as it grows and becomes a real source of income for creatives, will change the game and be giving money directly to the content creators. Those photographers out there getting nothing or very little through the traditional means, like in these competitions for example, or instagram, facebook, flikr, etc., need to get on Steemit.com ASAP and get properly rewarded. And I know that it's at least partially the intention of user Steemed in promoting @masteryoda that will entice talented photographers to come to this platform, but it is, in my opinion, wrong to use others hard work to personally profit.


## We know not what we do

I can only guess that those users that think what is being done is not a problem, are either:

-- Not professional artists/photographers themselves so don't know what it feels like to  have their work used without their knowledge, and worse having others profit from it.

-- Don't care because they are used to the "new internet rules" when it comes to sharing content, or bluntly just don't care.

-- Feel that the ends justify the means; that promoting Steemit.com in less than scrupulous ways right now is a necessary evil and that later, once the platform has many more original content creators, there won't be a need for these tactics.

-- Not aware that this sort of thing is not the way things should be done.

## No bad Clippers!

I really don't think that @steemed is a "bad whale", nor is @masteryoda a sith lord. In my estimation they are some combination of these four categories to varying degrees and they don't feel they are stealing or doing something wrong. It's my desire to show that this, and only this, behavior of "sharing" copyrighted material without getting the original creators permission is not ideal; to profit from that sharing without permission, and not give any proceeds to the original creator, is without question wrong.

On facebook or some other social media site where little to no profit is made from "sharing" others work one could almost give it a pass with an excuse of "at least the artist is getting his work seen by more people" or similar excuses. However in our case, on Steemit.com, where the poster makes money by "sharing" there is no question that it needs to be addressed as to what are best practices.

## Row row row your bots

As far as the bots are concerned, there is no problem with what they do as Steemed himself is aware of what his "employees" are posting. As long as he keeps an eye on what they are doing, and doesn't turn a blind eye to when they are doing something wrong, illegal, spamming, etc, there is nothing we can say. Honestly, congrats on writing a bot to do that work for you!

Lastly, I hope it is abundantly clear that I have no ill will towards @Steemed and @Masteryoda and merely want what is best for this platform. I have opinions just like everyone else and hopefully my commentary will be listened to even though it goes against the flow. If I am wrong on any point, I hope to hear clear rationale as to where my thinking is off base.


## "If you want to be a different fish, you got to jump out of the school"

~Captain Beefheart
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@smooth · (edited)
$1.04
> he takes images from avax.news which in turn took images from the BBC, this is promoting whose creativity exactly?

@masteryoda's quite obviously. His feed of carefully selected stories about significant news-making photographs and videos was one of the most consistent and highest-quality sources of content on Steemit. I very much doubt you could what he did even 1% as well as he did it.

Your narrow-mined ideas about creativity, talent, and value need to be very seriously reexamined.
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@thecryptofiend ·
Absolutely agree.  This problem will only get worse.  This post has many down-votes but since the Whales are the Kingmakers here (as I described in my latest post) it doesn't matter.  Their inaction and indifference to this problem will be the nail in the coffin of Steemit.
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@eeks ·
$3.76
Steem is a permanent record of content creation stored on a blockchain and real money is involved.  People are going to get upset, envious, be offended, and experience all sorts of volatile emotions.  This is like reddit + FB but with bigger stakes.  So if you want to thrive here in the long term, you're going to need to have thick skin, stay positive, and adapt to what comes your way.  Ragequitting is an unprofitable and unproductive strategy.  Whinging is the same.  I hope @masteryoda doesn't leave because we will be worse for it.  And so will he.
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@elargroup ·
$1.01
A little patience, my dear friend. All will be.
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@hrottie ·
$439.69
This is a very big problem with community in steemit for now.

Unluckily,you get money here,and other people can see how much you got it.
That means the envy and jelousness is getting to work,and changing people.

They hate seeing you posting new,great photos (like u did already,i have really enjoyed watching them!) and they are saying it is a plagiarism and reporting you just because of a simple reason-they know you are going to get money from it.

However don't worry my friend,steemit is upgrading everyday.
We got BETA now,so you need to wait some time if you are not alright with posting new photos now,i would be happy if you do :)
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@doctorstrange · (edited)
$0.03
Post photos of work you have rights to post, simple as that. It puzzles me how people want to make excuses for this sort of behavior. 

> just because of a simple reason-they know you are going to get money from it.

Yes, this. We are not pleased that someone is getting money for nothing. It is not RIGHT! Pay the original content creators, get their permission, or don't use their work for your own profit. How in the world is this unreasonable to ask? 

You @hrottie are getting rewarded for creating your comment here, and even if I were to think "This person is getting rewarded for doing nothing! They don't deserve that!!" I would never downvote you to try to take that reward away, because you created that original comment yourself and people democratically voted on it because they agreed on its worth. In the case of @masteryoda, he did not create that  work. They posted content that belonged to someone else and based on this copied content was rewarded for it. If there were no pictures from others, he would have made no money. So who should the reward go to? The person that used someone else work to then make profit or the person that created that work initially? This is not only common sense, it is law. 

Just because you and I like the pictures from others that he posted, doesn't change the fact it was an unethical thing to do. 

Now Masteryoda is aware of this fact so can no longer feign ignorance. I hope you and others rethink this situation clearly instead of jumping to his defense without weighing the facts. 

Steemit.com is still in it's infancy and NOW is the time to set our best practices in order to make a strong, vibrant, FAIR platform for sharing content. It is in all of our best interests to get things done right from the start instead of letting something fester on and on and then having to try and remedy a situation that has grown out of control.

I hope all of you that are jumping to Masteryoda's defense can see that it's not about envy, it's about what is best for the platform in the future and that we care strongly about Steemit.com being a success. Condoning theft of others hard work goes against that success.

Cheers
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@liberosist ·
That is a really, really bad place to be, if your posts on Steemit are fueled by jealously or envy. 

The only way you are going to create good content is if you write what you believe in and do your best. The rest is not in our hands.
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@madhatting ·
Are posts like his expected to become as valuable as they once were? Possibly more?
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@inti · (edited)
$1.02
@liberosist is absolutely right.  Don't feed the troll @masteryoda . We are in beta, many nasty people who think better than the others will come. It is normal here on the Internet. But communities tend to balance, and these people or get tired or no one ends up voting for them. 

They only win if people like you let them free path and leave.
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@kidsysco ·
$440.17
Does similar posting on Facebook result in law suits for profiting billions upon billions of dollars on copyrighted material? I don't think so, this is social media on the Internet. Everything is linked together, you can see the source in the URL and everyone has the right to carry on a public conversation. Most content authors are happy to have people discussing their work as such on Social Media. I agree, the only person who has a grievance is the original author of the content.
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@doctorstrange ·
$19.35
It's not the same AND just because other sites get away with it to some degree, doesn't make it ethical or legal to do. In this particular case Masteryoda is directly profiting without the permission of the original content creators. 

If the original content creators were asked ahead of time by @masteryoda "Hey, would you mind if I posted your pictures on my blog and if I make any money on it, can I keep it all for myself?" do you think any of those professional photographers would have agreed to that?

He is hiding behind the "if they original content creators have a problem with it they can ask me to stop". Well, this presumes they can ever know that one has stolen their content and is profiting from it or not. By the time any of them find out, and I doubt any of the owners of the 100 or more links that have been used are aware of their content being profited on are, @masteryoda would have placed the profits away in bitcoin or elsewhere and how does the original content owner verify how much exactly was made? "What the hell is a Steem???" they might say.

Just be honest and look at what has been done with open eyes and not make excuses. This is ill-gotten gains, plain and simple.
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@liberosist ·
$0.04
Definitely. It happens on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram - on all social media. Content copyright owners notify the social media websites, and they have no choice but to remove the offending content. In fact, YouTube even has automatic detection of copyright content under pressure from the movie and music industries.
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@madhatting ·
I LOVE this.
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@madhatting ·
$0.03
It feels like certain people are being discouraged to post while others post and get upvoted for posting crap. Wish there was something we could do immediately.
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@gabbans ·
i wish the same too. so that good content will prevail and the bad content will die
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@masteryoda ·
Thank you for your support and kind words!
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@doctorstrange ·
$0.02
Nobody wants you to leave. I have zero animosity towards you and while I can't speak for anyone else, since I don't know what is being said in Slack, I can only assume nobody else wants you to leave either.

You have to understand that I come from a background of graphic design/illustration/photography and know what it's like to have others profit from our hard work.

I can see it from your post that you feel everyone is jumping on you, and that must feel awful. Please know that I have nothing against you personally and quite frankly don't know anything about you. I can only hope you will accept my apology for any unhappiness you feel based on anything I've ever said or done here. That certainly was not my intention.

Sincerly
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@liberosist ·
So good to have you back, @masteryoda! :) I sure hope you continue posting some good stuff as you were.
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@maykor15 ·
Donald Trump is the culprit
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@ostomdamasceno ·
$1.01
I agree with you - Do not give up.
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@putriayu ·
I agree that on introduce yourself could be misused. because I think the anonymous online world, so privacy is maintained.
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@rampant ·
The biggest issue with steemit, from what I can tell, is that delivering value is not the same as getting value.  The interests and people that are rewarded here are VERY narrow and seem to be more about whom you know rather than what you write.  And sometimes it's just random.  I saw a post that was &quot;I'm skeptical about getting paid&quot; - like 3 sentences of this, and it was over 1k in rewards.

There are plenty of vastly more valuable posts for the community here getting like.. 20cents.  This is defended by posts about how the &quot;whales&quot; are choosing what will be big to bring in peope.  

But if you LOSE people then you have to bring in even more.  I expect steemit to get flooded for a while, then &quot;churn&quot; will be HUGE and it won't matter.  Just a flash in the pan.

This is the beginning of the churn.  If the main thing that gets money here is praising steemit and boobs, then expect it to just become a soft porn site powered by bitcurrency.  The worlds first digital strip club?  Groundbreaking, I guess.  But probably not what was intended.
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@liberosist ·
Regarding the variety of content, a fair point indeed. I see lots of great content in niche topics go completely unnoticed. 

I suppose that's just a result of it being a brand new platform. I bet these things balance out as Steemit becomes popular. To be fair, Steemit developers are on it - the hard fork today adds several measures to improve content.
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@romancs ·
@masteryoda, hello. These people were and always will be. Don't pay any attention to them. Because more than 500 people voted for your post ! Most of us support you! It's great!
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@sergrom ·
STEAM You are deceiving all you clowns
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@sergrom ·
STEAM You are deceiving all you clowns
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@summon · (edited)
$942.48
> Finally, I would like to defend those of us who like to post stuff they like, even if they did not make it, it’s a right we have by all laws of the universe. This place will turn into a compilation of mugshots, and low quality content and articles if it is forbidden to also allow external content, it cannot survive!


Yea, it would be pity to see you leaving! Really, maybe just step a few days back from you computer ...and the coming back . Also if your decision is finally, i'm understand this, it would be just pity. 

# Don't leave but let's make your voice count -  and let's make steem better with such input and feedback!
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@groovy ·
$0.03
You guys are so funny. Why does @masteryoda's voice count but all the people who are talking about inequality doesn't?
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@jholdsworthy ·
I seriously cannot agree with you more, summon. Steemit is still an experiment in beta stage. There are obviously flaws in the system fundamentally.

But quitting does not help. Really does not. It would mean that you'd be missing out on everything that this community is striving to achieve in the future.

But again, as summon said. It's your choice eventually. And we can't stop you from quitting.

It is a true pity.
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@liberosist · (edited)
$404.73
Yes, I do hope @masteryoda returns after a hiatus. We need more steemers like him - whom we can always trust to contribute good content - to make Steemit better!
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@madhatting · (edited)
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@masteryoda ·
Thank you, you made it count in an amazing way, I’m really thankful!
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@stealthtrader · (edited)
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Hey so I appreciate everyone's time and I understand where YOUR coming from, but I was wondering does Steemit want to be known as JUST a blogging site?
Check it out and please let me know what you think..
https://steemit.com/socialnetwork/@stealthtrader/does-steemit-want-to-be-known-as-a-blogging-site
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qBdT8h6Xfg9HP7a/giphy.gif
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@summon ·
$89.82
## **I will contribute gotten rewards of my comment to @masteryoda** 

After u got some break - come back and man .. u shouldn't care about naysayers and complainers .. i know this is somethings a though thing to ignore .. (i had to learn these lessons as well over the past 3 years)
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@tjpezlo ·
@masteryoda we all need to find that spot where we could change this world to make it a better place to live in. i support you on this but you don have to stop. we dont quit, we only get better. Some steem tuna also cautioned me on a post that was clearly not my own video but posted it as with acknowledgement in the hopes of sharing it with other people because i found it to be helpful. I tried to explain only to get flagged down losing my rewards but hey i could not get any worse, i accepted it, and here i am trying to do what i love doing here on steem, to post great contents, engage in intellectual discussion, to ispire and motivate others to do the same... your among the gems of this platfor, you dont have to go away... pick up your self , continue to add value and move us with your great works.
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@valentine21 ·
I completely agree) I will read intetesting people that they engage favourite work
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@liondani ·
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@litontbn ·
Your  a great contributor but the problem with this community is that all people want to do is copy and paste and think they can make money that way and its sad that money fools everyones mind
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@lukestokes · (edited)
$2.15
I really hope you don't rage quit. We'd all lose out if you did. I'm really sorry to hear about other conversations that have gone on which were not respectful. For my part, I've really enjoyed <a href="https://steemit.com/steemitabuse/@corinnestokes/re-posting-other-peoples-photos-videos-on-steemit-fair-use-vs-commercial-use">the dialog here</a>. Full disclosure, that's my wife's post. Prior to you highlighting it here, it had very little $ attention (even after getting linked to by @anyx's <a href="https://steemit.com/steemit/@anyx/an-open-letter-to-the-steemit-community-on-content-plagiarism-and-the-cheetah-bot">front page trending post</a>). She posted it (and I also got involved) not out of envy, jealousy, or some such thing, but out of a deep desire for justice, fairness, and ethics in the world. There was something going on that not only didn't feel right, it also seemed to go against our current understanding of the law. That, to me, puts the reputation of this site (steemit.com, we won't even get into the blockchain implications of all this) at risk. That puts us all at risk. We've seen takedowns of entire websites because of copyright infringement and those sites may have had no direct financial incentives to those sharing other people's work (like we have here on Steemit). This early on in this experiment, it's important to lay down the foundations which will last a long time. If a respected, influential member of the community like yourself is rewarded for a practice which might increase the existential risk for the entire platform, is that something we should all be concerned about? Others would naturally follow the same practices, maybe not taking as much care as you did to site your sources. It's possible those individuals alone would be at risk, but again, I've seen too many examples where the entire site goes away.

As for those who are jealous, insecure, and petty: ignore them. Their tragic expressions of unmet needs deserve sympathy and maybe a little pity, but nothing more. There are far more people here who want everyone to succeed.

If you feel the need to take down your previous posts to protect yourself, that's an understandable decision. If you do so, I hope it's for your own reasons, not because someone forced you in any way. That, to me, is the beauty of this entire model: no force is needed. Community standards are changing and evolving via conversation. That's a beautiful thing.

> the STEEM Gestapo, and the STEEM revenue police 

That's a funny joke/hyperbole, but it's not really accurate. Again, there's no coercion here. We can act as adults and make our own decisions.

My wife and I were really happy about your last post and how you used public domain images. That, to me, was a great sign of positive change! Curating great content should be rewarded. Just copying a page (from a news site or elsewhere) where someone else did the curation seems less valuable to me (but that's just my opinion).

In closing, I want to apologize if anything I've personally said came across in a rude or insensitive manner. I truly hope you change your mind about modifying all your old content or, if you must, own the decision as your own and not one that was forced upon you.

I hope this will pass, and we can all enjoy great photos from you in the future.
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@jamtaylor · (edited)
>"Curating great content should be rewarded. Just copying a page (from a news site or elsewhere) where someone else did the curation seems less valuable to me"

Echoing this as it has always been my position on this topic.
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@lukestokes ·
$0.87
Do you really think caps or bold are required here? It's just an opinion among many.

What should or should not be rewarded is open to perspective and @masteryoda has been here much longer than most everyone on the system, given its current exponential rise in new users. That, to me, deserves some respect. They were here before there was a photography channel. For us to come tell someone "You're doing it wrong!" when they defined what "it" is from the beginning could be seen as presumptuous. I hope, for my part, I've not done this but instead participated in some important discussions. To the extent I've judged others (instead of talking about ideas and existential risks for this platform), I apologize.
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@masteryoda ·
$0.29
Thank you lukestokes for sharing you concerns here I totally understand and respect them, I enjoyed as well discussing this matter with you and corinnestokes before this thread was posted, it was really instructive, and that post has an interesting legal insight posted by sean-king. I think everyone reading this should go ahead and read it [here]( https://steemit.com/steemitabuse/@corinnestokes/re-posting-other-peoples-photos-videos-on-steemit-fair-use-vs-commercial-use#@sean-king/re-corinnestokes-re-posting-other-peoples-photos-videos-on-steemit-fair-use-vs-commercial-use-20160723t175131893z)

Regarding your concern and others’ about the whole site being taken down, I don’t think it’s possible given all legal precautions are taken, like stated in sean-king post. Sites being taken down over copyright issues are typically torrent sites that do not respond to DMCA takedowns and share large content mainly in the music, film and software industry, there is no comparison to be made with social media sites, if so, Facebook, Twitter and all other social platform would be long gone by now.

It’s always a pleasure discussing with intelligent and respectful people like you, I did not take any offence from you or corinnestokes.
Thanks again for your great way of discussing this in a mature and responsible way.
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@lukestokes ·
Thank you. :) This comment made my morning, along with my wife. Mature, responsible discussions are what separate Steemit out from the rest of the Internet. I hope you stay for those, if nothing else.
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@madhatting ·
None of my posts contain anything of value to anybody but myself lately. It's not the same, boring.
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@mammasitta ·
I hear you! One of my original photos I made in 1984 (  I never copyright)  just vanished , a photo I took when I met Miles Davis . Not happy at all !
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@manthostsakirid ·
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Keep up mate!! make a new beggining!
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@masteryoda ·
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I would like to thank everyone who showed their support here, I was not expecting my post to spark that much interest and controversy, but I’m glad it did, it made me feel I was not alone here and it showed the power of the grassroots of this community as this post remained on the top of Steemit homepage despite unjust flagging and heavy down voting. I do respect the opposite opinion and I think it’s a good thing to discuss this issue openly and try to find a middle ground on which we can all agree.

Of course I condemn the policing and brigading that’s taking place here, people accused of abuse should not in any way be dealt with that aggressively, some people make innocent mistakes, some are not aware of the unspoken rules, but they are being dealt with like criminals and scumbags as I experienced it firsthand. For the image of this project, dealing with abuse should be done in a civilized way. Of course not all members of the abuse brigade are rude, but a few of them are enough to ruin the image of Steem.

I think we should be able to agree on a code of ethics that needs to be written, because people cannot be held accountable for unwritten rules, I’m not encouraging blatant copyright infringement in any way, but copyright law is much more complex than some people here think. And it’s allowed to use copyrighted material under some circumstances without permission, copyright holders know it and accept it and only a judge can decide if there was an infringement or not, not the average joe.

Regarding the liability issue of copyright, it’s been discussed over and over again, but to sum it up, there is no need to reinvent the wheel here, we do not need to worry about it more than sites like Facebook, Reddit, or Youtube, of course none of these have been taken out because of it, because they have a sound legal policy to deal with it. And that’s what this project needs. Relying on community based brigading will definitely not solve it. It needs to be dealt with using proper legal advice and policy. 

People who think I made more than a hundred thousand dollars with my posts are way off charts, I mined and invested in Steem early on, and been running a witness node, that’s what makes up the value showing in my account after Steem price went up ten folds.

For the time being I will refrain from posting news photography until we agree on a code of ethics that takes into consideration the opinion of all people here, not just a select few. I think it’s best because my photography posts have been drawn way out of proportion either regarding them being a threat to the whole site (that’s absurd) or in regards to their financial rewards.

I will however try to contribute in other domains I excel at, that are not subject to controversy, it have been overwhelmingly encouraging that people here supported me, and I will not give up so easily.

Once again, thanks to everyone who made this post count!
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@jennamarbles · (edited)
This is the hard way ! We love you .
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@maykor15 ·
the situation in Venezuela is strong because the president. help me overcome the crisis with a upvoted?
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@meiisheree ·
$0.67
I totally agreed with your opinions. 
There are people who just  jealous and wasting their time (that of course they can spend it to do smth meaningful for their lives such as going out exercising) to think every methods and bunch of reasons how to drag you down. Haters gonna hate anyways, so why get bothered by them? If your posts are not upvoted by so many people (maybe whales too) and get in the top trendings, they won't even bother leave a hate comment. Why? Its simply because of their jealousy.  
And, if one of you haters are reading this comment, I think it's the time for you guys to stop being so aggressive of another people. Why won't you spend your precious time to start writing a really good post that could attract  people  instead of  being so SARCASTIC.
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@mianeri ·
i agree freedom of speech post whatever... :D as soon as the content is there free and not stolen...
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@mibenkito ·
I cannot agree more, jealous people are everywhere and they even bully a 14 year-old girl because of being liked too much, they said she is fake and the whale is standing behind just to cash out their money. I know it isnt true though. They gathered and kept demanding her to verify herself and I think its funny. Just keep on doing what you want, haters gonna hate anyway ;)
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@michaellamden68 ·
$0.72
http://www.pedmore.dudley.sch.uk/pedmore_new/wp-content/uploads/community.jpg

I think we all understand the complexities of community and social media, I don't think your giving yourself and steem the opportunity to grow.



http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21000000/Community-gifs-community-21080243-500-194.gif

It would appear you are a valuable contributor and in my opinion that is exactly what this platform requires, life is full of a@&holes, but there is always decent people too!! Which ever direction you choose to go, I'm certain it will be the right one for you?!? 

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/07/thank-you-gif-2015.gif?gs=a
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@minion ·
https://steemit.com/steemit/@minion/youtube-vs-steemit-enemies-or-siblings
#### This post covers the Simmilarity between YouTube and Steemit as well on How to use Steemit and It's OFFICIAL CONTENT RULES.
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@mondeja ·
[AquΓ­](https://steemit.com/steemitabuse/@mondeja/por-que-he-borrado-todos-mis-posts-traduccion-al-espanol) estΓ‘ traducido el artΓ­culo a espaΓ±ol.
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@moonjelly ·
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I think almost all sides of this debate have good arguments. What can't be justified is the bullying and constant abuse you took. I hope you stay and we can all find a solution together.
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@mrgreen ·
$420.72
there is no any luck to me with my posts as well but i'm still here just to see something new. Good luck 2 u, master!)
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@msutyler ·
How did you remove all your posts?
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@murh ·
boohoo ... your posts among other reposts made me stop posting my original work ... how about that ?
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@condra ·
His wealth also encourages others to take the same path.
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@doctorstrange ·
This is the dirty underside of promoting someone that is reposting others work. People that come here to contribute their own work have to compete against another poster that is not only using the works of the best photographers on the planet at the click of a button, they are backed by a sponsor that enables their post to be seen above all other photography content, then once the new users see the pretty pictures in the trending section they continue the cycle to the point where the "best" photography post is a copy and paste of others work. 

How anyone can see this as good for the culture of Steemit.com is beyond me. All of this "content" is easily found all over the net. Google ["best photographs"](https://www.google.com/search?q=best+photographs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_19vUto_OAhUM12MKHTRzADIQ_AUICCgB&biw=1880&bih=783) and you can spend the rest of your life going down the rabbit hole of viewing beautiful pictures.

To suggest that reposting pictures from other websites is special content and should be cherished is either disingenuous, pandering, or misguided. If Masteryoda or anyone else spent the time to look at the photographers work here on Steemit.com and built a following so that it gave exposure to those photographers because they were curating those artists work and then Steemed and his bots autoupvoted that content with links to the original posters work so that people could upvote the curator AND could go to the original posters post AND upvote that post then we might have something! 

Anyway, I've beaten this topic to death with hours of, what I think is, thoughtful and honest commentary. Sadly, people are not willing to upvote commentary that doesn't support their narrative. There is someone on this site that downvoted something I wrote out of spite, but I still upvoted their post about food because I thought it was well done. I honestly don't care that they don't agree with my opinion, but don't flag something because you disagree with what is being said. The flag should be used for content that is either spam, an exploit, or in some way fraudulent. To flag something because you don't like what is being said is against the freedom of speech. Fakes, scammers and trolls need to have a check and balance on their content because it is inherently unfair for a fake to profit on deception.

So, @murh is the unfortunate victim here of the incentive system as it is currently devised. Instead of promoting original strong content, the system is incentivizing copycat behavior and pushing original content away.

Lastly, I saw a repost of another persons work earn the reposter a very nice return while the original photographer made a few dollars even after the reposter put a link to the original posters post and was doing his best to prop up the original photographers works. Perhaps he gave them some of the profits, I don't know. I hope so.

My suggestion is for there to be a best practices FAQ for things like this so that a repost of others works doesn't earn the lionshare of profits. Either the reposter agrees to give some of their reward to the original artists and/or the voters be sure to go to the artists that the reposter curated and give them votes. I know that after a certain period of time the votes for their posts will not give the post money so it is upon the reposter to do what is right and share the wealth. Otherwise this place is going to be a free for all ripping off others works because there is no real sense of what is fair here. 

Steemit.com suggests that original content should be valued and will be valued, but there is evidence to the contrary. Yes, it's in beta and hopefully it will be addressed in the future, but to keep ignoring the reality of what is going on is going to bite us in the ass eventually.
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@murh ·
Unfortunatelly no one cares and @masteryoda made another $1.5k while complaining he's only made $100k until now ... It's so absurd that even I don't really care anymore ;)
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@murh ·
https://media.giphy.com/media/26BRA8Xu5R40Tq2EE/giphy.gif
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@artific ·
Mr. Robot :)
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@murh ·
>This place will turn into a compilation of mugshots, and low quality content and articles if it is forbidden to also allow external content, it cannot survive!

Not everyone here is talentless ... talent should be awarded ... not you mistaking your subjective opinion for a good taste ...
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@nanzo-scoop ·
$1,826.00
My view for what it is worth, is you're curating photographs  and people are upvoting based on your taste and judgment.

The only people that have grounds for grievance are the copyright owners of the photographs. 

There may come a time when many of us will be required to seek clearance for the use of photos. We may be pursued aggressively, maybe not. I'd advise everyone that lifts (non-public domain) photographs from the internet to set aside a pot of money to deal with these matters.

Some claims will be dealt with as fair dealing. Some claims will require authors to cough up cash. Other claims will require authors to take down material and damages may be sought. These are the realities of copyright clearances.

Outside of the copyright owners no-one else really has grounds for grievance. Unless they feel you were misrepresenting photos as your own. From what I can tell you have always attributed the photos appropriately, so there should be no issue on that score.

Just my two cents worth.
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@dana-edwards ·
Very good points.
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@doctorstrange ·
$0.02
He didn't always give attribution, that is more recent. I'm not mad at him for past transgressions, and applaud him for changing to at least giving attribution. Just correcting you on that point so you can more accurately assess the situation.

And again, as far as putting the burden on the original content creator to seek damages when the content user is making a profit without the consent and having made no effort to contact the content creator for their permission is obviously a way to roll the dice in order to make money in the hopes one doesn't get caught. Just because someone isn't aware of a crime doesn't mean a crime wasn't committed. 

Some photographs are public domain, some are expressly free to be used, others are expressly determined to be never even photographed (in the case of something at a museum for example) and nearly all other photographs are automatically copyrighted unless expressly determined to be otherwise. You don't even need to put a copyright next to it, but people on the internet. Just.don't.care. Because they want to make money as quickly and easily as possible.

Your standing up for him has earned you 1700, congrats. *this further proves my point that as long as you support the whales positions you stand a greater chance to gain a financial reward* Which is not to say that I don't think it's perfectly fine to get that much for your comment. You created your comment yourself, it was useful, helpful and worthwhile. Please don't read me wrong on that account.
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@madhatting ·
Your two cents is worthlre like 5 hundred bucks =P
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@minergate123 ·
are you angry or afraid because your content is someone else creation?
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@gabbans ·
$1.05
he is non of the above. it is just an observation.
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@recursive · (edited)
$6.02
> Outside of the copyright owners no-one else really has grounds for grievance

Hosting plateforms are legally liable for the content they host. Steem is the hosting plateform and we are its stake holders. We are entitled as a community to decide what kind of legal exposure we want to subject ourselves to, and it only makes sense from both an economic, business, legal and ethical perspective that we do not encourage people to seek income from the work of someone else by violating their intellectual property rights. Note also that although Steem is decentralized, Steemit Inc is a US registered company and they are the ones who will be spammed by DMCA take down notices if we allow the IP rights violations to go unchecked.
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@nanzo-scoop ·
$102.88
Steemit should look to how YouTube and other hosting companies deal with copyright infringement. There is no need to reinvent the wheel here I think.

The copyright owner should make a complaint (for all we know **@masteryoda** may have obtained the requisite clearance) and then the material can be blocked until the matter is resolved (**@masteryoda** should be given the opportunity to refute breach of copyright claims).

Persistent offenders who receive numerous complaints *from copyright owners* should be put on a banned list.

Steemit Inc. has clearly attempted to provide for this in the [Terms of Service](https://steemit.com/tos.html):



> 20.Copyright Complaints

> Steemit respects the intellectual property of others by not reading infringed content from the Steem blockchain. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, you may notify Steemit’ s Designated Agent by contacting:

> contact@steemit.com

> Please see 17 U.S.C. Β§512(c)(3) for the requirements of a proper notification. You should note that if you knowingly misrepresent in your notification that the material or activity is infringing, you may be liable for any damages, including costs and attorneys’ fees, incurred by Steemit or the alleged infringer, as the result of Steemit’s relying upon such misrepresentation in removing or disabling access to the material or activity claimed to be infringing.

I would hope (as a quasi stakeholder myself) that Steemit have sought the best legal advice available. Copyright infringement can become a major headache for a platform like this (I've worked in this field for over a decade). It shouldn't require community policing beyond blatant false attribution.

If we are reliant on the community to  police copyright infringement we are pretty much screwed as that approach is not scalable.
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@tiffjane · (edited)
$1.98
>My view for what it is worth, is you're curating photographs and people are upvoting based on your taste and judgment.

Except - too many of Masteryoda post I've seen are _**someone else's**_ curation. 

Going to another person's website and copy and pasting _**their**_ curation, isn't curating.  

## For example [here's a Masteryoda post](https://steemit.com/photography/@masteryoda/2016-underwater-photographer-of-the-year) and [here is the post where he selected 5 photos from someone else's post](http://avax.news/touching/UK_Underwater_Photographer_of_the_Year_2016_Winners.html)

The photos posted are amazing - YES. But unless masteryoda runs [Avax](http://avax.news/) someone else put in the hard work putting them together and writing up commentary on them. 

# Curating art IS a valuable skill people SHOULD bring to steemit. #

Art Gallery curators do a real job - and there are virtual equivalents to that. Sifting through the mountains of material available on the internet and bringing quality content to the fore, even if it is not your own original content is of great value.

But copying other's curation is no different than copy and pasting a Buzzfeed article in my opinion. 

If @masteryoda was transitioning to doing more actual curation with his platform that would be great, in my opinion. But selecting photos from Avax posts alone personally won't get my vote (not that it counts for much).


People are free to upvote, but people are equally free to draw attention to 'copy and pasting' and let people choose to NOT upvote.
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@eeks ·
$0.43
Thanks for sharing this, I did not know this to be the case.
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@nanzo-scoop · (edited)
Looking at the example, 

(from an attribution perspective) **@masteryoda** did credit Avax, however I think he should make it clearer that the whole post (*including the text*) was an excerpt of the Avax article. This isn't obvious from reading the post. I wasn't aware of that fact before, so thank you for bringing it up.

(from a copyright infringement perspective) again, it would be for Avax, to lodge a complaint about his use of extracts from their article was a breach of their copyright. As well as possibly the whoever owns the copyright in the photos raising a complaint.
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@nathanjones · (edited)
@masteryoda, I have to admit I am one that has come full circle on how I feel about non original content posts like the ones you do.  First I was a little jealous that you would gain such votes with a copy job, but as I spent more time on Steemit my feelings changed.  To get up votes you either must create a name for yourself, have really good content, or get really lucky.  Let me say your name is really bad ass.  Who doesn't love yoda. Next, every time one of your posts scrolled through my dash, I liked seeing it.  I knew it was not original, but you carefully select things to post and it helps to break up the blah blah blah of all these intro and other rambling posts about who knows what.  Sometimes it is just nice to view some beautiful images, and that is a service you provide.  If I were to give any constructive criticizm, I think you probably could do better in citeing the original photographer at times, not just the publication.  Also, if you were to link each sighting of the source to the actual photographers blog, facebook page, etc.  I think you will find the "new" Steemit community to be more accepting of non original content posts.  

Also, this is a message to all the ones who would seek to bring down @masteryoda . This is a community where we should build each other up, and help guide and give advice, not be hateful and resentful. Lets not forget our place in this world.  Every major news outlet, blog, website, etc uses works that are not fully their own.  Every where you look there are stock and limited distribution photographs being used for all sorts of purposes.  The simple fact is as @masteryoda states: 

"Finally, I would like to defend those of us who like to post stuff they like, even if they did not make it, it’s a right we have by all laws of the universe. This place will turn into a compilation of mugshots, and low quality content and articles if it is forbidden to also allow external content, it cannot survive!"
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@nelu.ceban ·
democracy, its easy to hurt someone, its hard to rebuild, so dont leave.
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@nextgencrypto ·
Quit whining like a little baby.  Try posting something original and maybe people will give a shit.
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@himshweta ·
I post everything original. But still, only a few posts get noticed !! :(
Also, is it possible to remove posts from steemit ?
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@nin0000 · (edited)
I don't mind, i post about fossils, hardly any readers.  Just staying true.
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@olivo ·
TO DELETE ALL POSTS ON STEEMIT!
https://steemit.com/steemit/@olivo/delete-many-of-your-posts-as-much-as-you-want-your-favorite-browser-extension-looking-for-beta-testers
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@paris-loves-her ·
I'm new, and trying, @Paris-Loves-Her, and also have been frustrated and wondered about content. I've not had negative comments but struggled with how my words would reach those whose day would be made better by them. Stay. We need good content here and to build a safe and loving community. xo It's early yet, it will evolve into something even better. Stay.
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@phanie90 ·
$0.65
Nice post.. thx
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@pheonike ·
Why should we risk the site being sued and possibly shut down because your feelings got hurt? Unfortunately when money is evolved, people(copyright holders) will be far less forgiven if they choose to start pursuing. If we can demonstrate that we are a pro-active community it makes it harder for them to do harm to us..
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@pigeons ·
$0.31
&gt; This place will turn into a compilation of mugshots, and low quality content and articles if it is forbidden to also allow external content, it cannot survive!

This is so true, and its even actively encouraged and upvoted!
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@pinklee ·
$470.46
@masteryoda, don't give up! A good platform and good posts bound to have challenges. Keep Steeming and all the best to you!
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@bullionstackers ·
$0.94
I agree with pinklee.
I have seen Lunartic running around Down-Flagging, for no reason. I got down flagged!!!!

Anyway , keep up the Good work with the photography.
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@politicasan2 ·
eventhough those we take and article or picture from another source as long its have a usefull information i do not think its bad for steemit
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@positive · (edited)
"if it is forbidden to also allow external content, it cannot survive!" - <b>Because people here are too incompetent to come up with high quality unique content?  Right.</b>

<h4>Well, written but one of the most bizarre arguments I've heard.</h4>
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@primus ·
$0.51
<blockquote><b>Why I removed all my posts!</b></blockquote>

Actually you do not removed any of your posts yet. And you (and any other author here) could not make this thing - remove any post. 

STEEM is a blockchain based technology - this means any written words can not be revoked. All the "Edit" button effect is only steemit.com site visual content representation. In fact "removed" posts are still located in blockchainn.

It is important to remember  - all your activity on STEEM is logged forever.
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@eeks ·
$0.45
What % of this site knows this?  I would say 20% tops.  People should be very thoughtful with what they write because of this.   Thanks for reminding us.
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@darkb4dawn ·
In mainstream, the area Steemit hopes to deeply befriend to build a large user base, it is unfortunately likely that only 1% know this. It also likely they are uneducated with re-guard to plagiarism and fair use.
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@gowersgirl ·
I didnt know that thank you....
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@psygot ·
I joined steemit not knowing what I'd curate or post. I didn't know what would be accepted or frowned upon either. So I just started uploading my writes and uploading them under my own tag. 

I haven't experienced negative treatment, such as yours, but would of responded very similar. I think you should stay, use the block button to your advantag & continue to submit whatever you want, your content is a value to our community and respected by many more than you think.
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@pulpably ·
I'm grateful you shared this experience! It must really suck to have been "doing it right" until the unofficial rules morphed and suddenly you're "doing it wrong."  The form of policing you've described has to be unacceptable, especially when they are targeting you as the poster instead of taking the time to assess the content. What's fascinating to me is that this is a great example of Steemit growing and changing with use.  Obviously, Steemit is going to continue to change and those enforcing "rules" now may find the tables turn on them, too. As an early member, your contribution to the conversation about what Steemit should become is more informed than many. I hope you'll continue to be a powerful voice here.
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@putradham ·
$0.63
very good post you
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@rainchen · (edited)
I feel you man i post bunch of my photography work but still :'( heart ache .
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@ranko-k ·
$0.06
How did u deleted a post?
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@razvanelulmarin ·
$0.05
You can't delete old post though.

what is in blockchain can never die!

But I do get your sentiment, I hope I didn't contribute to your disenchantment with steemit.

I know what you mean because at times I felt a bit bitter too, for different reasons but the bitterness can make a once awesome experience less enjoyable.

That being said, if you give up now, you're only playing into the haters hand.

Please don't :)
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@recursive · (edited)
$4.02
@masteryoda: you are overreacting and throwing baseless accusations.

First I'm not aware of any slander having occurred. The discussion in the slack channel was respectful and constructive as far as I can tell. If you feel that you have been slandered, this must be the action of an isolated individual, and not the community as a whole and I would recommend that you settle the matter with the individual in question instead of throwing the blame piecemeal at everyone around.

You are also slinging mud on the curators in #steemitabuse. Are you aware we are spending hours of our personal time to detect and counter spam and plagiarism to keep this website clean and do not receive any compensation for doing this job? I can understand you resent the difference of opinion between your definition of "fair use" and that of the community. But do you really need to belittle the work of tens of volunteers to express your dissatisfaction?

Last but not least you imply that there is some sort of conspiracy that lead to the concerted downvote of your latest posts. This is simply absurd. Look at the votes on your two last posts: as of the time of this post, you have got a *single* (ONE) downvote on the latest post, and 2 (TWO) downvotes on the previous one (out of dozens of votes), and the Steemians who downvoted you were not even involved in the Slack conversation yesterday. Basically you are crying out because one or two individuals who used to support you changed their mind after your [annual smithsonian photo contest post]( https://steemit.com/photography/@masteryoda/2016-annual-smithsonian-photo-contest) sparked controversy around intellectual property rights and probably made them reconsider their support. Are you seriously thinking it is proper to blame the whole Steem community because you lost the support of two individuals after one of your post attracted a lot of negative attention?

Please calm down and look at things objectively. The situation is what it has always been: contents are being voted based on the aggregate community opinion of the relative value of each post. As any society, the Steem community is evolving and what it considers to be valuable or acceptable changes over time. It's everyone's responsibility to remain aware of societal change and adapt accordingly. It doesn't mean that posting external content has become unacceptable, but obviously awareness has risen around intellectual property matters and it has now become more important than ever to strike the right balance between fair use under the "right to quote" and original content.
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@jamtaylor · (edited)
$0.45
I am a frequenter of steemitabuse and as an individual with opinions which were shared there I would be happy to discuss them with masteryoda 1 on 1, but he is not obliged to do so if he does not want to.

Let it be known that I have shared my personal views directly to masteryoda on the slack, sharing honestly and openly things which he obviously did not agree with or enjoy, and did not respond to (he does not have to respond). But that is how life works.  I have never downvoted masteryoda nor have I lobbied to have him downvoted.  I would not characterize the content of the opinions shared on the steemitabuse slack as slander or hate. Neither would I consider all of his posts as plagiarism once attribution is given. My issue is more philosophical, and I think it has already been said and there's no need to go into it any more.
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@recursive · (edited)
$3.45
> some hateful people even contacted ned to un-vote one of my video posts he had voted for (which he did obviously because I’m the bad guy now, not like the old days!), they also contacted some of the people voting for my posts to stop doing it which they complied to under pressure

This is pretty serious accusations you are throwing here. Frankly I don't image anyone bothering to "conspire" about your case, and even less @ned and other whales caving in under "pressures" in particular concerning a matter as mundane as the relative value of your photography posts. Given that you are the one who started to cry "slander" because some curators have dared to challenge you on your definition of fair use, I hope that you have really sound evidence to back your claims.
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@eeks ·
Evidence > accusations.
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@rentko ·
$0.32
I understand your pain, but still the platform is in beta. I guess the fact that your thread is on the top with so many replys give a bright future for all steem community, where everyone can state his/her mind no matter how critical it will be. But sure steem also has a long way to go, many new things to implement,  before it became more popular than facebok which I really hope will happdn: )
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@repholder · (edited)
$1.63
Things that don't get big payouts usually go unnoticed as they also have less visibility. But personally I respect you and your own opinion on the matter, sadly mine in an SEO perspective differs. Clearly for the organic visibility of the platform, others might be jealous but curation is subjective afterall.

I know I also got overly aggressive and we had a big fight on Slack,  I apologized to you and publically apologize. After things calmed down and we talked more civilized.

I dont mind people saving things they like on Steem but hopefully we can have boards like Pinterest or similar but no-indexed so Google doesn't look at Steem like a low quality - duplicate content - link farm website .  


This is the snippet from Slack after we chatted and I think people should read it before they go on hating you.


" @talerecursion (nickn) @repholder and @anyx explained to me how duplicate text can hurt steem SEO efforts, so I will make sure i'll use custom text because i like this project an i want it to succeed and i hold vests because of that, regarding the photography, i beg to differ, we had a long discussion on the thread below, and even a lawyer pitched in to explain his legal point of view, i'm posting mostly photography that has made the news, so it's kind of news reporting which is accepted under fair use license, anyway only a judge can decide that, not you or me and as the lawyer pointed out, if there is damage done, the party will issue a takedown request to the webhost or steem. As long as the photographers themselves are ok with some of their notorious photos being published all over the web, i don't think it's a problem. here's the discussion:

https://steemit.com/steemitabuse/@corinnestokes/re-posting-other-peoples-photos-videos-on-steemit-fair-use-vs-commercial-use#@sean-king/re-corinnestokes-re-posting-other-peoples-photos-videos-on-steemit-fair-use-vs-commercial-use-20160723t175131893z"

Your a cool guy and down to earth. Here have an upvote.
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@jesta · (edited)
I mean no offense by this, but from an SEO perspective why should steemit get the relevance for these posts anyways? The content is in the blockchain, it's not on steemit, and it's very likely that the same content will exist elsewhere on some other website using the same blockchain.

As a developer myself I understand *why* you want as much SEO relevance as you can get, don't get me wrong. It would help steemit grow organically. But you also have to accept that the content on any site site may exist other places and may not be unique. It's not always a bad thing.

Edit: to just close out that thought with my opinion - I don't think absolute copy/paste content is OK, it's kind of spammy and the only redeeming quality it *could* have is being a backlink. But if you use an asset that you're legally allowed to use (from elsewhere) on steemit, it should be fine, and you shouldn't get brigaded by down votes.
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@repholder · (edited)
$0.18
SteemIT is a frontend that is indexed in Google and other engines.
True that the content on any site site may exist in other places, a small detail here is that content needs to have supporting content of your own or it's basically worthless organically.
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@rkpl ·
$0.63
hold on - we are with you
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@rnobrega ·
$0.85
I uploaded a couple of videos and photos myself, trying to be succesful like you and get some bucks, obviously nothing happened and i only got some cents from them, but i dont hate you for that. its just luck i guess. People's lust for money is driving them insane, dude. if you make 2k per post, i truly feel happy for you, i dont understand whats going on with all this hate against the trending posts. Keep doing your thing, i enjoy the photos and videos that you share
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@smooth ·
$1.23
It isn't only luck, it is consistency and reputation. @masteryoda has been finding and sharing great content for months and has developed a following. If your content is excellent as his has been, then you can develop a following as well, but it takes time and persistence.
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@rnobrega ·
$0.85
you're right, cant compare months of work to a week in here.
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@robertl ·
@masteryoda, you need to learn what represent the copyright and how it works. Also you need to learn what is difference between fair use-commercial use-copyright infringement .  As I see, all the content which is not created by you  represent COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. 
All the content which is used here represent commercial use (you make money from it) and  you need to license this content 
Everything is very clear, you cannot use content which is created by someone else. And please stop with your hedonist mentality. If you like something just buy it or pay the correct price.  Till then you just steal the works of others and makes money from it. I was very  surprised to see that here are people who promote a such mentality. We are in 2016 !!!! Wake up!!!
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@masteryoda ·
This is not commercial use!
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@robertl · (edited)
$0.03
Let's be clear one more time.
Here "we" make money! That's mean  COMMERCIAL USE!
FAIR-USE DOESN'T EXIST HERE.

"Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 17 U.S.C. Β§ 106 and 17 U.S.C. Β§ 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:

1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; 
4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work."

I'm a stock photographer/illustrator for many years  and I know what I'm talking about! 

If he (masteryoda)  had used one of my images, right now. the things would have ended very badly for him. We are not living in jungle! 
We are civilized people or we should to be!
RESPECT THE COPYRIGHT! Make your own content!!!

PS: For others -  Don't forget about Berne Convention !!!
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ShowResults.jsp?treaty_id=15
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@doctorstrange ·
> We are civilized people or we should to be!
RESPECT THE COPYRIGHT! Make your own content!!!

Here here. It's really simple don't you think? And even after explaining it to people over and over again they still want to make excuses for profiting from others work. Is it just a product of our times that creative property is taken for granted? Back in my day, not to say digital art is bad at all, we actually had to paint and draw with pencils and brushes so theft of our work wasn't as commonplace. These days I guess young people don't understand that all of the pictures and videos they are seeing aren't all created with one click of the button. In my day if you wanted to copy someone else illustration you had to paint it yourself. These days you can ctrl-c, ctrl-v... 

Bernie Sanders and I have something in common. We're getting old! But still kickin'!
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@robi-rusmana ·
yeahh
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@rogue91 ·
It absolutely sucks that this happened to you, and honestly I've been feeling the same about posts.  Since it seems to be a lot of reposted contented recently, hoping for the upvotes that bring revenue and its like -- You used to sit and facebook, reddit all day for free IF you make money on your post congratulations but this site is giving you the ability to do what you did and then possibly make money, this isn't a job.
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@romancs ·
These people were and always will be. Don't pay any attention to them. Because more than 500 people voted for your post ! Most of us support you! It's great!
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@satoshifpv ·
You forgot one!
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@senseiteekay ·
>I commented on one of your posts saying I hope you're giving back to the Photographers who produced the photos. I hope I didn't offend you with one of my comments. Still, *I think you should cover your ass just in case dude. Make a new account, transfer your funds over, become a king again with your own original photography! boom!*
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@seyacat ·
Cry louder and you receive more powerups. Now you can leave steem with huge success.
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@shaheer001 ·
$0.76
Dear Masteryoda you are absolutely right. no one have right to flag your post with out any reason this is just right of STEEM officials so impressed with your work and also your thoughts best wishes for you don't leave the STEEM community as this is the platform where every one be survived.
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@sigmajin ·
all due respect, voting rewards money out of a fixed pool.  There's already a huge disparity and most people posting original content get no reward at all.  While you have a bunch of bots and follow lists paying you thousands of dollars to repost pictures from other websites.  I think its perfectly reasonable for people to object to that...
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@sirwinchester ·
I can understand that you are upset, because you really put a lot of work into steemit and you were one of the very first people ever to even use it.
But I think we just have to accept the fact that on this world, everyone has haters. All those unneccessary comments, all this blind hate, it will always be there (especially on the internet). Even Gandhi had haters! So focus on the positive, I know human beings always have the tendency to remember the bad rather than the good.. but don't let that get to you! Read the positive comments and skip the negative ones, you don't even have to defend yourself. Don't let yourself be pulled down by some people who don't even have a camera and don't know anything about photography. You are here to share your art, or to share anything you like really, and no one can/should tell you what or what not to post! So heads up and I'm hoping you will continue posting again!
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@skapaneas ·
someone on the photography steemslack was very aggressive towards me and reporte one of my posts for advertising it to the wrong channel.my subject was Arts .I guess considering photography Art its a crime. we need to make this more visible .I ll try to get his name
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@skorss ·
The real problem here is that the whole site is now being ruled by the ones with more voting power, and this people have without their own concent gotten a lot of "believers" these other users follow them around and let them decide what's good and what's not good, but this is only possible in this system, why does steem has value? because people give it to it, the same reason these whales have "power" is because these followers so believe they do, so keep posting what you like, and let the trolls do what they want, you owe them nothing.
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@slide.kirya ·
Do not give up
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@smooth ·
$417.95
This post is being downvoted for what reason exactly? While you may not agree with @masteryoda's views nor his conclusions, the post itself is original writing, expresses a sincere opinion, and raises important issues about behavior on the site.

The degree of downvoting on this post demonstrates the level of hostility and negative brigading that is starting to go on here. To those doing it, you have proven @masteryoda's point very nicely. Congratulations to all the bitter people who are seriously damaging what has up to this point has largely been a positive and empowering environment.
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@firepower · (edited)
$0.91
I think this debate is blown out of proportion!  If someone is sharing my pictures by crediting me for it I'd be thrilled. (Yes I've worked in web and print) Publicity is always welcome! Most people arguing here have zilch experience working in large news agencies/media outlets but have tons of experience sharing legal citations! The masses here need transparency in rewards but they cringe in discomfort when they see big numbers on any post other than their own! We are hypocrites! That's just human nature!  **We scream Ethics and apply it arbitrarily based on our whim and fancy!**  

The hostility witnessed on the platform in the past 24 hours is proof that we're here to trample each other, compete by any means possible! We arent here to succeed and help others succeed with us! Steemit is increasingly becoming an outlet to simply vent and rant about each other.  
 
## There's an old saying, "When two elephants fight , the grass suffers." 

As the community grows in numbers, rising intolerance amongst each other will ruin this place! We must exercise constraint and be more compassionate!  **Let's think for a moment, "Has this debate resulted in providing any value to the original owners of the content you care so much for or for the community itself?"** β€”The honest answer is Zilch! Nothing! 

Those guys are out there creating new content, earning money from it and happy that their work is shared with the world! The publicity generated by reshares of their content is landing them 3x the gigs than they would have otherwise.  That's how the real world works off of our computers! 

### If we feel that we are failing by putting all our eggs in the Steemit basket and deriving less than expected returns its purely our fault! 

So Congratulations to all for arguing with each other!! I honestly wonder if  we as a community have gained anything apart from negative emotions and ill feelings towards each other from this exercise in futility!
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@firepower ·
@masteryoda stick around man! :)
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@masteryoda ·
It is blown out of proportion, I see it as a form of fear mongering, all social platforms deal with it, why should Steem be any different. Nice post! Thank you!
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@masteryoda ·
$388.28
I could not put it better smooth, it seems this post touched a bad nerve, that would explain all the flagging and down voting, thanks again for your great support!
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@thecryptofiend ·
I agree.  I initially downvoted this post by @masteryoda but have removed that after thinking about it.  

Whether I disagree with @masteryoda or not I don't think it is fair to downvote him.  He has the right to express his opinion even if people don't like it.  It is only through discussion that these issues will come to light and be resolved.

We are not all enemies here, we may be passionate and point out when we think people are doing something wrong, but ultimately it is because we want this platform to succeed.

Only through working together can we solve this problems.
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@sokoloffa ·
You are a good person. Do not despair. Everything will fall into place.
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@sompitonov ·
$436.94
@masteryoda, its a bad news from you...
STEEMIT developers is not DECIDED at start - this project will have free content, or only original.
And now you is victim of this. But we are with you, dude.
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@spectree ·
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People, can i ask you - what are you doing?
@masteryoda just make post, which explain some point of his vision of Steemit content. And what you all to do? This post have already 49 flags. 49!
What is your mission? to show everybody how steemit community can hate?
If you dont get masteryoda point of vision - you cant just be disagree.
But here i see awful side of humanity nature...
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@splatterhaus ·
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Masteryoda is spot-on, if only purely original content is allowed it will be a bunch of low-quality nonsense. Do you think Facebook forces people to not put good unoriginal content on it?
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@stealthtrader ·
Here is a new type of post about my first salvia trip man please check it out and let me know what ya think :D



https://steemit.com/new/@stealthtrader/my-first-salvia-trip
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@steem42 ·
Love and passion are strong with this one and will only get stronger.
Keep right on @masteryoda at being you, yourself
As you have the natural universal right to do so!
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@steemed · (edited)
$246.30
You have made a very interesting post. As a conservative estimate, probably 99.9% of the users here are unfamiliar with the very earliest days of Steem where we were discussing strategies for aggregating content. Most of us thought nothing of aggregating manually and the debate focused more on how to do efficient aggregation with bots.

Now, since the community has grown to include those from all walks and cultures, we are being imposed by a different set of standards. In contrast to the old standards, which focused on technological efficiency, the new standards focus on an unwritten code of ethics, probably because money is involved.

Many users will think I mean that very early adopters don't have ethics, but that's not the case. We didn't have the financial component so the ethical component that accompanies finances was irrelevant.

One aspect that may be very frustrating to newcomers is that us very early adopters still tend to focus primarily on technological efficiency because that is our nature and is a huge reason why we are the types who become early adopters. We also have a lot of power resulting from our early adopter status. It may be time to re-think how we interface with this new community because we have now become a very visible minority.
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@darkb4dawn · (edited)
$0.89
Thank you.
Even very, very interesting conversations about aggregating content are also likely out of the scope of what most in main stream will be reading about and contributing their into input and ideas toward. 
The technological efficiency standards approach and bots have their place in social media, in the end social media that works is content created by humans. 
"Social media are computer-mediated tools that allow people, companies and other organizations to create, share, or exchange information, career interests,[1] ideas, and pictures/videos in virtual communities and networks. -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media"
The financial component is what makes Steemit.com, especially compelling for an enormous numbers of users/potential new users. To the deeply interested, the underlying technology, the geek aspect, is mind-blowing. To the "masses" it is 99.9% of the time the financial aspect that is mind-blowing. I certainly can not say that it is unethical to try and make money here, one could argue that is whole point of Steemit.com -----> to finally make money for participating in co-creating in the library of human life. 
I believe it is very true that many people actually have no idea what plagiarism is and sharing is just so common that even highly educated types may have forgotten the ethics and the rules. Education can help.  
After education there will still be willing abusers, especially while the site is very new. For some people the chance to cash out far outweighs the penalty of being chastised and/or expelled from a site that while very cool to you and me, is possibly disposable to them. Damages done to this beautiful site by these types make us cringe and yet the very willing offender likely couldn't care less.
Decidedly the early adopters and others with large influence here do ultimately have a serious role to play in this issue with you weighty nature. I don't know what is best myself, I do wish you well and will chime in when I have something intended to be meaningful to say.
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@jamtaylor ·
$0.05
This is a very reasonable response.
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@jesta · (edited)
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I wish those conversations/discussions were easier to find, they'd be interesting reads. 

In this new unwritten code of ethics, I propose one of the pillars is: **the content that the community creates is sacred**. It's one simple rule that's always worked for me while managing content based communities. 

If you live by this rule, there is no room for error and you need to be certain before you claim something doesn't belong or isn't real. Bots would need to follow this ideal as well, and only respond if they are absolutely positive it violates the code. The content itself needs to be "innocent until proven guilty", and not punished before the evidence is 100% solid. Treating content with the utmost dignity should be the #1 goal, otherwise we will end up alienating content creators, which harms growth to the community.

But... when content is absolutely proven to violate a copyright violation, be completely fake, or violate any of the other ethics/standards - the gloves come off.
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@eeks ·
$0.56
Your posts in this thread are awesome.  This is concise and true and should guide our approach here:
> the content that the community creates is sacred. It's one simple rule that's always worked for me while managing content based communities.

And this too
> Treating content with the utmost dignity should be the #1 goal, otherwise we will end up alienating content creators, which harms growth to the community.
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@masteryoda ·
Early adopters have indeed become a minority in number, but not in power, and with power comes responsibility.
The code of ethics idea is definitely what we need next, but I think it should be written, because unwritten law is subject to subjective interpretations.
Thank you for your support!
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@razvanelulmarin ·
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That's a smart way to put it. I believe the frustration isn't fueled by "ethics" per se. Most people ethics are whack if you look deep down enough. They don't hold a logical ethical system but a "I feel this is unfair" kind of system.
What happens is this: People are outraged when what they perceive as "bad" content rises to the top. 

They feel underappreciated and hurt and tend to fuck off. 

In a way, this is illogical too! Because their posts are not all that better and anyway, didn't make any money anywhere else! But the $$ sign changes everything right away.

I don't mind a powerful minority that in time will create a powerful majority,  but I think we need to be careful about not alienating new users. How exactly, it's an open discussion but one worth having.

For all of us!
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@steve-mcclair ·
I was almost removed from this earth for going to Area 51.
https://steemit.com/area/@steve-mcclair/area-51-steemit-has-arrived#comments
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@summonerrk ·
$470.80
@masteryoda, you had interesting content, and personally I don't care where it was taken. I think those who started this movement against the deployment of different content just jealous. 
My friend, do not treat it so. Keep it calm post. If they you put for this ban. Then let them put it to me.
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@brunopro · (edited)
@summonerrk  I would said that if you had made a ORIGINAL post on steemit and it had made only 2$... 
then someone picks and steals what you have CREATED, and posts on his blog... he's well known so the upvotes keep  comming and he mades 2000$ on that post he stole from you...

# Now... can you truly say "I don't care where it was taken"? 

Don't think so! I'm a designer and a creative, and my intellectual and physical things (either real or digital) are MY OWN property, if I post credits on an image and someone removes the credits and uses, he's stealing, simple as that!
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@doctorstrange · (edited)
Meanwhile, your content made $0.00 for telling the truth and the original comment made $400.00. This further drives people to want to only say positive things in the hope of getting a sympathetic whale to upvote the comment, further driving away dissenting views.
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@doctorstrange ·
> @masteryoda, you had interesting content, and __personally I don't care where it was taken__. I think those who started this movement against the deployment of different content just jealous.

Here is the problem. Some people don't care about stealing others intellectual property. They apparently never had a brother or sister take their toy when they were a child or never created something to know what it feels like to never get paid for their services then get to see their image used on an album cover and never get their original art back which was part of the agreement. (That's my story)

It's me me me, they want everything for free or they just don't care about others for some reason. I honestly don't understand how some people think it's fair to use others works and make profit on it. It simply makes no sense.

Can anyone please post something justifying what has been done by @masteryoda without just saying "I liked what you posted, so you're cool in my book!" or "Everyone is just envious!" (please stop using jealous all the time, it's not an accurate representation of what you intend to say)



These are not reasons to allow this to go unchecked.

Please present references and links to show how it might be appropriate to copy and paste other intellectual property on a website and profit from it. It's really simple. Then this could all be done and we could all go our merry ways.
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@madhatting ·
$0.97
Me too
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@nippel66 ·
$0.97
I understand the frustration. But i think steemit grow way faster than anyone could imaginate. This comunity is sky rocketing an ppl dont cant hold on from the growth. I like that peaple are cool to each other and calm down. Nobody should attack another steemer. We ned to stay together, to make it as great as possible.
Keep up the good work, and dont blame your self :)
Have a nice day
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@sylv3se · (edited)
There are a lot of users like your content here, it would be sad if you quit because of a bot or a couple of users who downvoted you.  We know better.
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@talyvale ·
one can easily visualize  the ankle snappers  who are driving masteryoda nuts.
lardy tsa agents that make you wonder how they find anybody to mate with
arrogant ex police bully hoping for a job in cuckoo nest nut house.
no one at their funerals except to make sure they are buried  the full 6 feet.
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@tamara1989 ·
Thanks for your post!) Hello from Ukraine)))welcome to my blog)I hope you like!!
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@thecryptofiend ·
Using other people's photos to make money is theft.  People may not like that point of view but it is true.  
I suspect your point of view would be different if you had taken those photos and somebody else was making money on them.
Whether you believe copyright law goes to far or not the fact is the authorities tend to shut things down if they think it is going on and not being tackled.  

I'm sorry you feel you have to quit but an alternative would be to simply ask people for their permission before using their photos.  

It may well take time and they may refuse but at least you would know it was legit.  Anyway everyone will ignore this response since people only like to hear what suits them.
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@rogue91 ·
Tbh though all posts with pictures would generally need to be shut down though.  I mean there's no way that everyone has asked permission and it does seem @masteryoda is targeted - 30 flags atm.  
Can't say flag this person and not that person.
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@thecryptofiend ·
He is probably the most successful and prominent that is why.  I think one solution would be to create a bank of public domain images to use.
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@themax37 ·
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It's photo commentary and should be considered fair use @masteryoda. Don't stop what you are doing!
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@tinfoilfedora ·
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Yes, the brigades have formed and gotten out of control in less than 2 weeks. There is an easy fix, if the Steemit website team would just look into it. 

The absolute only problem with this type of posting is not crediting the author. 

There is a fix for this that simply makes it easier to do the right thing, than to steal. The fix is EMBEDDING content,  just like youtube videos are now but for everything, web pages, sound, pics, and video. 

Embedding credits the author, provides a link to the original domain, and shares new content. Imaging being able to ethically share any page from  ars technica, deviantart, colleghumor, dropbox, instagram, kickstarter, twitter, reddit, soundcloud,  hulu, vimeo, ustream, vine, etc...

This fix would allow more content than any social network, and do it ethically by crediting\linking the authors page.  

There is even an enterprise level business called http://embed.ly based on this new type of sharing, they turned plagiarism into a legal and ethical business and Steemit could too. Right now, for a monthly fee...

Here is a better description of the open source embed projects. 
 https://steemit.com/steemit-ideas/@tinfoilfedora/a-solution-to-copied-content-that-would-make-steemit-explode-with-cool-posts
http://oembed.com/
https://noembed.com/
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@tjpezlo ·
@ masteryoda we all need to find that spot where we could change this world to make it a better place to live in. i support you on this but you don have to stop. we dont quit, we only get better. Some steem tuna also cautioned me on a post that was clearly not my own video but posted it as with acknowledgement in the hopes of sharing it with other people because i found it to be helpful. I tried to explain only to get flagged down losing my rewards but hey i could not get any worse, i accepted it, and here i am trying to do what i love doing here on steem, to post great contents,  engage in intellectual discussion, to ispire and motivate others to do the same... your among the gems of this platfor, you dont have to go away... pick up your self , continue to add value and move us with your great works.
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@toper ·
Here, as in any society, there are good and bad people who agree and disagree. From it can not escape. We must come to terms.
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@tosch ·
I can understand your disappointment. Please continue despite of negative comments. I appreciate content that is shared because people like to share it. Just mention the originial source and you make content of those people more available - they will be happy about it. I think once they realize you make money from their content, they shall contact you, you can make an agreement and they continue posting their own content. This will create a win-win situation.
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@unseenuno ·
$0.65
@masteryoda You've probably heard it a million times but growth pangs are necessary. It requires people who push the envelope and see what this could be. It seems like everything in the cryptocurrency world is fueled by hype but in the end I rest assured that human beings don't have the ability to stay focused in the negative. Staying focused in the positive with the right motivation makes it through the test of time.
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@v1rtu0so ·
$0.81
"I did what I do out of love for photography and this project." - Then why do you care what others think, do, say, or how they act? 

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ba/ba2041a78ca5add2e3aec713c54e9e2ef81590e6e31a26ffb821dc86bc25504c.jpg
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@jameswoods ·
$0.81
I Agree!
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@vi1son ·
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I don't know why all angry at @masteryada? He has good taste and i like his videos and photos!
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@vlad ·
http://absolutetrek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/The-things-you-own-end-up-owning-you-tyler-durden.jpg
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@warrensteem ·
$0.79
This is upsetting to read. But this is internet, it is a dark and nasty placed filled with terrible horrors. 

I say just keep swimming man, don't let these idiots get to you.

https://media.giphy.com/media/10FpORdoOEE0iA/giphy.gif
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@winstonwolfe · (edited)
$420.66
I'm sorry you had to deal with such hate thrown your way. While you and I may feel fundamentally different about this topic, I don't believe you should have to deal with that kind of BS.
As a rule, I generally feel that the creator of any content, whether text, image, video, sound - whatever it is - should get a fair share of whatever profit is made. Having said that, I don't believe that - in this system - that ONLY the creator can make money from the creation if it can be distributed in a way that benefits everyone involved fairly. When people talk about fair use, I generally like to believe that should also involve fair gains. After all, if something of mine goes viral because YOU posted it, then awesome! I may not have had the influence to make it happen on my own. However, I feel that whatever is made should be shared with the creator(s) evenly.
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@winstonwolfe ·
$0.72
You know something? After reading this whole thread one thing I have to say is that it's incredibly refreshing to see people having a conversation and articulating themselves (even when in disagreement) in a way that doesn't involve being assholes to each other. THIS is why I came here and left the other online playgrounds. I see people here explaining their sides intelligently, and actually LISTENING to one another. I see downvotes going pretty much only to the people who are posting irrelevant posts.
The incentive here is real. I've been here a week and I'm still in awe at the way people are to one another here by and large.
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@doctorstrange ·
## Thank you!!

Having different opinions is great! That's what we need here and elsewhere in the world for that matter. The ability to have people disagree with you and be civil about it. Bring the best arguments to the conversation and see what we ALL can learn from it. Without animosity!

I can't speak for everyone that has brought this matter of plagiarism to light, but I wish nothing but the best for masteryoda and others that think it's ok to use others work to profit from it, just I'm not going to sit by idle and not show you that it is unethical and not a good precedent to start this site on. 

At some point this project is going to get big time, we hope, and when that happens there will be situations like this to address. Do you all want the site to get shutdown because of rampant copyright infringement? Who knows what the future will bring? So we figure this stuff out NOW when it's still early and manageable. 

Don't be afraid to listen to those of us that aren't afraid to challenge others. We are devil's advocates/beta testers/bug finders and are trying to get the site ready for the future. We want Steemit.com to succeed and without honest assessment of where it's going wrong it won't be able to reach it's potential as fast or as smoothly.

@winstonwolfe gets it. This site has already proven to me that it has the potential to keep the real trolls at bay to a greater degree than most other sites, but this is right now when most of the knuckleheads from FB and YouTube haven't discovered Steemit.com. What's going to happen when millions of people are here acting a fool and trying to earn a quick buck copying YOUR content? It's not going to be so much fun any more trying to keep newbies from stealing your hard work.

People are getting away with "sharing" YouTube and other internet content now, because people in the "outside world" don't know about Steemit.com, but once they do, expect to hear from their lawyers when you are making thousands off of their sweat.
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@smooth ·
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> What's going to happen when millions of people are here acting a fool and trying to earn a quick buck copying YOUR content?

What is going to happen, as I replied to you elsewhere, is that those millions of people will share content and in some cases, copyright owners will object and submit takedown requests. There is no other solution that is viable in the case of user-submitted content. Other users taking it upon themselves to bully and brigade when _they assume_  something is improper is not a reliable scalable solution, and it further causes more harm than good in fostering a confrontational and negative environment.
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@wisehammer ·
Don't give up! I'm confident it will become stable in a month or two, please never give up, we are here to support each other!
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@wongshiying ·
Someone are trying to design a bot to control the original of the posts, pictures and so on. Hope that'll help someone who needed. Because of the worldwide internet, a lots of thing lost their original due to uncontrolled spread and share.
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@capitalism ·
$0.02
Search for "mediachain". Someone had a great idea for a blockchain solution.
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@yonuts ·
$0.76
Haters gonna hate, I'm ok with it as long as there is a source posted with it.​
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@ztl · (edited)
<h1>this place will turn into a hive of asslickers without the freedom to post whatever you want.
I posted the link to a LIFECHANGER youtube lecture, and it's got less than a stupid chick, blatantly fake, that PRETENDS she is traveling the world.

 Go ahead YODA, don't leave us, help sensed plankton to be heard please ciaohttp://i.giphy.com/MObD9Pn5dfEuA.gif

Read my latest post
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@smooth · (edited)
> this place will turn into a hive of asslickers

That and link spammers.
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