**“The heart is just a muscle,”** someone said to me the other day. I tried very hard not to explode into a rant about how this central organ is a little more than that. The heart is connected to your lungs, your breath, your brain. It's scientifically proven that you can die of a *broken* heart. We say 'follow your heart' and the 'heart knows'.  Hold that thought while we talk a little about KE — or the Krampus Co-efficient. I hate metrics with a passion. I do admire those who think that way — they're just as important as those who don't — but that stuff usually bores me to tears. I haven’t paid much attention to my KE score, just like I didn’t care much about my reputation score. Post cool stuff, engage, be a good human — and I’m happy to hang out with you and support you here. But to some, the KE score is a useful indicator of who brings value to the platform. As far as I understand it, it’s a representation of how much stake a user keeps — calculated by comparing your total rewards (author and curation) to your current Hive Power. The higher the KE, the less you've powered down or sold. The more people that sell, the more the Hive price tends to drop — so ideally, it’d be great if everyone had a high KE score. Ideally. At face value, people say a low KE score means you have little commitment to the platform — that you're just here to earn and take your money. What a bad person you are! How very dare you! We'd much prefer it if you powered up and stopped withdrawing your rewards, thanks very much. But not *everyone* powers down their HIVE without a thought for the platform. There are plenty of reasons this happens — here are a few: * Some users live in countries where HIVE rewards mean buying bread or rice for their children, or paying an unexpected medical bill. * Some might withdraw HIVE to invest in BTC at opportune times. * HIVE might be powered down to use in Splinterlands. * Or gifted to other Hivers, especially those in need. It might also be delegated elsewhere, powered down to exchange for HBD to earn interest, or cashed out and reinvested when the price dips. Hive price goes up — sell. Price drops — buy back in. We *should* have sovereignty over how we use what we've earned. Of course, it’d be nice if the “moral” use of Hive was to power up, buy more, and never sell — boosting the price. But that’s unrealistic if we keep promoting Hive as a social media platform where people *earn*. For some, earning is the main goal. For others — like me — it’s about engaging with good content, being inspired, finding catharsis through writing, being creative, and forming global connections. It’s a *heart* investment. I’m privileged enough not to need my HIVE *right now*. I might in the future. I’ve needed it before. But I like to think people look beyond my KE score. Because there are other ways to invest in HIVE that are just as valuable: * Engage with other people’s content and make them feel seen in ways they might not on other socials. * Delegate to new users so they can get ahead and feel supported. * Write good content — and thoughtful comments — to make Hive an interesting place to spend time. * Run or support niche communities that help people connect through shared passions. * Host competitions or challenges to encourage participation. * Be kind. If the big curation groups are *only* curating based on KE, they’re missing the point. If they’re *completely* ignoring KE, that’s probably not right either. Ideally, they’re considering a mix of factors — not just Hive price or stake retention, but the deeper metrics that decide whether Hive is a place worth sticking around for. Now, autovoting is obviously a bit of a minefield. A friend here once rightly called it a kind of *nepotism*. If you're *only* voting for popular creators because of who they are or how well-connected they are, you're probably part of the problem. I do get autovotes (thank you, friends), and I feel okay about it because I do my best to put out decent content. It’s not everyone’s taste — but I try. Honestly, I might not have stuck around if I wasn't getting consistent rewards. It sucks when no one sees, hears, or acknowledges your work. But if we all scrapped autovotes tomorrow to level the field? I'd be fine with that too. We can keep measuring KE, engagement stats, comment counts, word counts, payouts. But at the end of the day, what you put in *emotionally* matters too. Hive works best when it’s a place of passion, care, creativity, and connection — not just metrics and maximisation. Maybe we need a new score to sit alongside the Krampus Co-efficient. A Heart Co-efficient. Measured by how much you give back in *other* ways. Duck knows how you’d calculate that. That’s for the numbers people. <center> # `With Love,`  **Are you on HIVE yet? Earn for writing!** Referral link for a FREE account → [here](https://hiveonboard.com?ref=riverflowsJ) </center>
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
flemingfarm | 0 | 53,171,461,442 | 8% | ||
ericvancewalton | 0 | 515,908,374,769 | 100% | ||
allyinspirit | 0 | 3,596,752,478 | 25% | ||
happyphoenix | 0 | 73,299,531,493 | 63% | ||
akipponn | 0 | 205,643,770,418 | 100% | ||
amy-goodrich | 0 | 89,200,693,814 | 100% | ||
samstonehill | 0 | 26,729,834,093 | 100% | ||
netaterra | 0 | 5,797,146,472 | 15% | ||
novacadian | 0 | 59,850,424,409 | 100% | ||
macksby | 0 | 13,836,669,602 | 100% | ||
penguinpablo | 0 | 142,874,113,898 | 14% | ||
holoz0r | 0 | 100,575,951,475 | 100% | ||
canadian-coconut | 0 | 5,053,664,617,813 | 35% | ||
abh12345 | 0 | 27,472,124,129 | 15% | ||
funnyman | 0 | 1,560,768,042 | 5.6% | ||
qubes | 0 | 336,087,746,515 | 50% | ||
denmarkguy | 0 | 177,667,904,910 | 80% | ||
thereikiforest | 0 | 1,640,871,334 | 10% | ||
alexis555 | 0 | 5,750,988,715,756 | 43% | ||
cosmictriage | 0 | 56,378,015,680 | 80% | ||
detlev | 0 | 101,231,917,059 | 4% | ||
deirdyweirdy | 0 | 229,006,300,708 | 32% | ||
simms50 | 0 | 18,679,926,178 | 75% | ||
sustainablyyours | 0 | 6,408,467,211 | 50% | ||
scooter77 | 0 | 257,275,691,666 | 100% | ||
arunava | 0 | 68,386,583,290 | 10% | ||
arrliinn | 0 | 82,905,280,494 | 25% | ||
stortebeker | 0 | 138,281,742,431 | 50% | ||
bearone | 0 | 2,764,131,423 | 5% | ||
alphacore | 0 | 7,333,494,696 | 7.12% | ||
teamaustralia | 0 | 20,557,907,795 | 45% | ||
spectrumecons | 0 | 2,437,020,996,370 | 30% | ||
jayna | 0 | 23,570,028,057 | 3% | ||
guchtere | 0 | 12,819,468,961 | 100% | ||
wesphilbin | 0 | 29,620,420,860 | 80% | ||
joeyarnoldvn | 0 | 514,591,237 | 1.66% | ||
bluemist | 0 | 16,785,728,893 | 8% | ||
whitelightxpress | 0 | 98,333,506,713 | 90% | ||
lenasveganliving | 0 | 754,374,583 | 4% | ||
appreciator | 0 | 31,090,847,180,209 | 8% | ||
stayoutoftherz | 0 | 611,486,793,158 | 5% | ||
likedeeler | 0 | 258,597,971,032 | 100% | ||
chetanpadliya | 0 | 52,685,187,819 | 100% | ||
minismallholding | 0 | 437,523,528,849 | 50% | ||
fionasfavourites | 0 | 54,779,660,506 | 25% | ||
aafeng | 0 | 224,812,164,650 | 25% | ||
stoodkev | 0 | 9,720,807,725,250 | 70% | ||
noloafing | 0 | 627,667,102 | 10.98% | ||
kimzwarch | 0 | 24,324,808,266 | 5% | ||
yangyanje | 0 | 5,982,784,598 | 25% | ||
plantstoplanks | 0 | 483,994,997,146 | 100% | ||
dougbudlong | 0 | 16,954,345,922 | 100% | ||
izzydawn | 0 | 14,882,966,214 | 50% | ||
critic-on | 0 | 29,371,787,424 | 100% | ||
divinekids | 0 | 8,061,199,290 | 25% | ||
vegoutt-travel | 0 | 39,560,897,222 | 30% | ||
karinxxl | 0 | 41,834,232,431 | 28.3% | ||
thekittygirl | 0 | 564,128,603,866 | 100% | ||
familyprotection | 0 | 747,614,090,001 | 54% | ||
sunsea | 0 | 10,774,478,345 | 4% | ||
eonwarped | 0 | 20,003,675,834 | 8% | ||
onyfest | 0 | 15,241,940,311 | 10% | ||
senorcoconut | 0 | 3,680,355,965 | 10% | ||
travoved | 0 | 85,589,940,875 | 100% | ||
tazi | 0 | 74,030,947,584 | 44% | ||
prometehum | 0 | 1,041,339,886 | 100% | ||
fermentedphil | 0 | 1,191,383,281,769 | 100% | ||
sneakyninja | 0 | 3,710,516,273 | 5.49% | ||
howiemac | 0 | 18,204,332,003 | 100% | ||
rombtc | 0 | 489,320,843 | 15% | ||
thedolphincocoon | 0 | 114,423,400,046 | 80% | ||
cryptonized | 0 | 236,047,229 | 14% | ||
sagescrub | 0 | 1,466,200,650 | 25% | ||
gabrielatravels | 0 | 205,287,611,640 | 100% | ||
tryskele | 0 | 5,438,750,715 | 20% | ||
soyrosa | 0 | 453,945,282,452 | 50% | ||
philnewton | 0 | 543,178,658 | 7.5% | ||
organicgardener | 0 | 1,268,037,082 | 50% | ||
realtreebivvy | 0 | 9,245,809,593 | 50% | ||
kkarenmp | 0 | 3,812,571,421 | 4% | ||
bet1x2 | 0 | 862,948,846 | 50% | ||
danielcarrerag | 0 | 1,988,892,199 | 4% | ||
gaeljosser | 0 | 454,437,995 | 8% | ||
green77 | 0 | 8,866,073,444 | 80% | ||
barge | 0 | 876,211,574 | 50% | ||
bertrayo | 0 | 7,788,332,724 | 4% | ||
lisfabian | 0 | 2,734,633,628 | 100% | ||
life-relearnt | 0 | 12,157,762,388 | 50% | ||
bghandmade | 0 | 1,642,925,887 | 50% | ||
strenue | 0 | 375,331,215,153 | 96% | ||
simplymike | 0 | 135,689,782,090 | 100% | ||
proto26 | 0 | 52,417,980,782 | 83% | ||
goldenoakfarm | 0 | 363,860,525,568 | 100% | ||
steemitcolombia | 0 | 4,386,485,845 | 100% | ||
ravenmus1c | 0 | 15,970,313,428 | 0.8% | ||
louis88 | 0 | 562,825,273,365 | 20% | ||
racibo | 0 | 1,027,380,496 | 0.75% | ||
inciter | 0 | 4,342,346,359 | 8% | ||
manuelmusic | 0 | 758,260,112 | 4.8% | ||
cedricguillas | 0 | 315,621,484,624 | 70% | ||
diabonua | 0 | 585,809,049 | 100% | ||
theluvbug | 0 | 5,880,056,280 | 100% | ||
thegreatdayne | 0 | 780,110,307 | 50% | ||
exator | 0 | 50,304,415,017 | 100% | ||
byebyehamburgers | 0 | 143,452,004,741 | 100% | ||
fotostef | 0 | 572,236,703,807 | 100% | ||
marblely | 0 | 9,852,031,568 | 8% | ||
sbi6 | 0 | 177,081,188,420 | 81.99% | ||
abcor | 0 | 10,144,498,357 | 100% | ||
cmplxty | 0 | 401,437,744,943 | 25% | ||
mariaogliastre | 0 | 2,249,786,082 | 100% | ||
smartvote | 0 | 74,901,999,148 | 3.4% | ||
anttn | 0 | 8,907,320,941 | 33.33% | ||
vixmemon | 0 | 10,107,358,805 | 31.34% | ||
szr-network | 0 | 107,262,066,651 | 50% | ||
bdvoter | 0 | 5,789,454,439 | 0.01% | ||
babysavage | 0 | 2,016,917,858 | 10.98% | ||
miguelbaez | 0 | 1,025,016,643 | 8% | ||
ladyangelwolf | 0 | 1,427,964,526 | 100% | ||
themightysquid | 0 | 4,184,021,913 | 100% | ||
david.dicotomia | 0 | 643,268,098 | 8% | ||
tigerrkg | 0 | 643,348,021 | 100% | ||
homesteaderscoop | 0 | 89,518,172,541 | 50% | ||
jacuzzi | 0 | 676,637,835 | 1.4% | ||
riyuuhi | 0 | 1,181,377,922 | 100% | ||
noekie | 0 | 675,085,581 | 50% | ||
caribehub | 0 | 1,381,469,491 | 100% | ||
battlemaster | 0 | 62,984,078,920 | 50% | ||
naturalkiller | 0 | 733,078,840 | 50% | ||
nataya | 0 | 32,160,681,362 | 100% | ||
hungrybear | 0 | 623,772,210 | 14% | ||
monsterdoom | 0 | 1,293,430,863 | 50% | ||
wildhomesteading | 0 | 16,541,420,749 | 35% | ||
thelogicaldude | 0 | 671,264,056 | 1.6% | ||
alchemystones | 0 | 21,562,008,763 | 100% | ||
alenox | 0 | 520,079,147 | 4% | ||
jeremiahcustis | 0 | 58,473,628,472 | 100% | ||
squareonefarms | 0 | 10,265,191,981 | 50% | ||
beerlover | 0 | 5,330,206,931 | 4% | ||
tinyhousecryptos | 0 | 460,261,457 | 5% | ||
mind.force | 0 | 3,248,133,252 | 25% | ||
ssiena | 0 | 12,541,244,637 | 25% | ||
valerianis | 0 | 1,488,990,301 | 4% | ||
innerblocks | 0 | 153,712,118,282 | 100% | ||
sbi-tokens | 0 | 4,447,974,803 | 10.98% | ||
liaminit1 | 0 | 649,553,868 | 90% | ||
urun | 0 | 2,069,090,704 | 100% | ||
ibelin | 0 | 32,230,880,947 | 70% | ||
therealyme | 0 | 48,159,471,178 | 15% | ||
chris-uk | 0 | 8,708,717,163 | 40% | ||
sandymeyer | 0 | 40,560,721,888 | 12.5% | ||
freemotherearth | 0 | 23,107,128,785 | 100% | ||
stoodmonsters | 0 | 36,075,631,792 | 70% | ||
gloriaolar | 0 | 4,933,845,945 | 4.5% | ||
marblesz | 0 | 544,890,581 | 8% | ||
nerdvana | 0 | 642,588,827 | 4% | ||
paradoxtma | 0 | 69,695,902,865 | 100% | ||
hive-127039 | 0 | 782,401,081 | 25% | ||
artemisshares | 0 | 24,293,684,501 | 100% | ||
theterminal | 0 | 320,819,610,011 | 80% | ||
janaliana | 0 | 714,506,329 | 12.5% | ||
hive-189742 | 0 | 47,844,489,524 | 100% | ||
captainhive | 0 | 893,043,629,498 | 30% | ||
hivelist | 0 | 3,022,104,638 | 2.4% | ||
discoveringarni | 0 | 18,847,413,227 | 15% | ||
noelyss | 0 | 2,366,811,024 | 4% | ||
lucianav | 0 | 962,271,635 | 4% | ||
gabilan55 | 0 | 602,861,537 | 4% | ||
malomi | 0 | 11,097,922,601 | 35% | ||
dwixer | 0 | 5,647,289,911 | 100% | ||
hivelift | 0 | 5,974,474,216 | 100% | ||
noalys | 0 | 1,231,776,604 | 4% | ||
kattycrochet | 0 | 4,441,405,462 | 4% | ||
netaterra.leo | 0 | 1,002,487,581 | 13.5% | ||
cielitorojo | 0 | 4,063,651,075 | 5.6% | ||
kriszrokk | 0 | 34,640,475,327 | 100% | ||
elgatoshawua | 0 | 1,079,229,249 | 4% | ||
selfhelp4trolls | 0 | 923,256,710,852 | 100% | ||
failingforward | 0 | 994,049,931 | 40% | ||
halukshananah | 0 | 7,702,491,070 | 100% | ||
drricksanchez | 0 | 45,454,068,011 | 7.5% | ||
external-panic | 0 | 1,134,707,104 | 100% | ||
hexagono6 | 0 | 528,076,813 | 4% | ||
corvidae | 0 | 30,443,379,536 | 15% | ||
aswita | 0 | 58,395,006,314 | 100% | ||
jane1289 | 0 | 2,758,849,131 | 1.6% | ||
power-kappe | 0 | 561,351,608 | 8% | ||
milagrosmhbl | 0 | 935,011,197 | 4% | ||
hive.friends | 0 | 0 | 1% | ||
jemima1996 | 0 | 5,793,548,057 | 50% | ||
scooter77.pob | 0 | 2,050,636,694 | 100% | ||
mariaser | 0 | 4,510,385,872 | 5.6% | ||
fotomaglys | 0 | 3,431,015,418 | 4% | ||
mattbrown.art | 0 | 1,424,866,365 | 15% | ||
seryi13 | 0 | 821,072,211 | 5.6% | ||
keithtaylor | 0 | 2,992,408,216 | 21% | ||
cesarsj5 | 0 | 684,876,629 | 8% | ||
virgilio07 | 0 | 40,144,611,801 | 100% | ||
traisto | 0 | 64,510,003,294 | 100% | ||
aprasad2325 | 0 | 1,486,920,332 | 4% | ||
rosmiapure | 0 | 1,185,135,620 | 50% | ||
wongi | 0 | 24,544,929,494 | 16.66% | ||
aequi | 0 | 151,582,723,179 | 70% | ||
new.things | 0 | 62,625,102,181 | 10% | ||
eustace-kidd | 0 | 654,053,468 | 4% | ||
malhy | 0 | 1,340,606,849 | 4% | ||
mimi.ruby | 0 | 162,663,129,161 | 70% | ||
eolianpariah2 | 0 | 22,673,498,371 | 10% | ||
consciouscat | 0 | 109,096,990,707 | 100% | ||
rc-assist | 0 | 19,964,232,542 | 70% | ||
hoffmeister84 | 0 | 11,282,089,374 | 70% | ||
arveno | 0 | 81,520,035,994 | 100% | ||
littlebee4 | 0 | 122,412,627,233 | 25% | ||
anhdaden146 | 0 | 420,472,044 | 0.01% | ||
bfciv | 0 | 1,341,734,052 | 50% | ||
anna-newkey | 0 | 70,130,654,282 | 50% | ||
bigorna1 | 0 | 11,643,672,540 | 50% | ||
quduus1 | 0 | 8,448,485,873 | 16.66% | ||
graciousvic | 0 | 1,235,790,021 | 16.66% | ||
hive-113967 | 0 | 2,190,086,115 | 95% | ||
labyrinths | 0 | 15,631,977,207 | 100% | ||
pinkchic | 0 | 590,479,095 | 2% | ||
salicj | 0 | 8,273,433,651 | 16% | ||
fredaig | 0 | 2,286,521,370 | 50% | ||
hive-189277 | 0 | 611,215,797 | 33.33% | ||
cards4rent | 0 | 6,932,995,377 | 50% | ||
elnauta | 0 | 120,431,857 | 100% | ||
carolinawnn | 0 | 959,771,008 | 100% | ||
abu78 | 0 | 2,398,142,880 | 4% | ||
dahpilot | 0 | 4,916,877,104 | 10% | ||
skiptvads | 0 | 63,753,339,510 | 11% | ||
unity-freedom | 0 | 1,751,114,818 | 33.33% | ||
tahastories1 | 0 | 991,619,101 | 4% | ||
javedkhan1989 | 0 | 1,629,080,467 | 4% | ||
calendulacraft | 0 | 0 | 100% | ||
yummycruz1 | 0 | 1,169,721,947 | 5% | ||
urrirru | 0 | 16,939,153,077 | 100% | ||
madilyn02 | 0 | 26,060,972,398 | 100% | ||
yourcap | 0 | 1,551,658,391 | 75% | ||
ifhy | 0 | 1,066,985,720 | 35% | ||
fee-service-new | 0 | 7,972,782,397 | 100% | ||
sprunk | 0 | 8,798,801,908 | 100% | ||
thelivingworld | 0 | 461,879,930 | 4% | ||
tazifit | 0 | 2,643,983,083 | 44% | ||
franco10 | 0 | 893,682,255 | 4% | ||
anima-shot | 0 | 13,979,772,588 | 100% | ||
k4rl4 | 0 | 2,577,497,541 | 45% | ||
maaasha | 0 | 3,203,850,237 | 35% | ||
michael561 | 0 | 554,174,657 | 2.19% | ||
ecp.voter | 0 | 7,019,625,926 | 100% | ||
ecp.curator | 0 | 7,157,527,586 | 100% | ||
ecp.rclease | 0 | 7,661,052,040 | 100% | ||
letusbuyhive | 0 | 949,047,963,998 | 17.5% | ||
coffee-lovers | 0 | 1,077,418,742 | 100% | ||
ecp.dump | 0 | 6,946,850,895 | 100% | ||
spoondawg | 0 | 6,949,699,315 | 100% |
Another drama?? !LOLZ !ALIVE
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No, just a discussion and food for thought.
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I am so glad you wrote this!! I have seen your comments on posts about this subject here & there and like how you don't automatically think powering down, or using Hive for life's costs is a bad thing. And I totally agree with you. Honestly, I had never ever heard of KE score before I was tagged in a post (along with many others) for having a low KE score. I guess I see my value on Hive more so that I always have a couple thousand HP and try my best to keep the stuff I share here fun & optimistic. Other people have way, way, way more Hive, HBD, HP & now KE than I but, aren't exactly bringing the most positive vibes to this platform. And other people have consistently been posting on Hive and consistently withdrawing their funds to pay for their life. Whatever people do with the funds they earned is their business. Personally I use my Hive to buy the materials for arts, crafts, and homesteading activities that I end up making posts about to share on hive, so in a way, all roads lead back to hive even if my wallet is a bit light compared to others. So, more nuance needs to enter the KE convo and I am so glad you are sharing your perspective here. Thanks!!
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I’m on both sides for the KE stuff. I like when I see someone with a decent KE and give them a stronger vote but when I get to know someone I ignore the KE a lot of times. I think the KE can be helpful when it comes to some things, like seeing someone who’s cashing every single thing out and not keeping any. That’s their prerogative and they can get support in some places but not a lot from me. I think constantly focusing on metrics isn’t a good thing though, because it indeed forgets there’s a human behind that.
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Autovote is only tool, we can not blame the tool. It is depend on how to use it well and properly. !LUV !PIZZA
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Honestly, it is nobody's business what anyone does with their earnings. That's worse than dictatorship. People spend money on Art, people spend money on drugs. Its the same money. Maybe for some, its the same euphoria. Perhaps some do both at the same time. But I know that as someone with a highly analytical background, being able to balance it with my heart is something I've only matured into being able to do in the last few months. I'll keep getting better at that. As I said in comments elsewhere, and as we can ceaselessly say: What is HIVE? What do you see it as? What is the goal? I answer these questions with: A place to be social. A place to make connections. A place to keep rambling, ranting passionate people like me from tugging on the sleeve of strangers on the street to tell them about my deep and passionate notions on the things I am interested and fascinated with. One day I'll leave HIVE, but I don't know when that will be. One day will be someone's last HIVE post. And someone's last hive post will be because of people judging another based on numbers that are in their wallet, and that is deplorable, reprehensible, and exclusionary. If you want to tell people what to do with their money, go become an Australian politician and limit people to a debit card for their welfare payments that can only be used at a certain selection of merchants for a certain selection of services. Australia isn't a totalitarian regime, but that is something that has happened in this country. Look for the stories of those poor people, and ask yourself, if you want to bestow votes who don't meet a magical metric, then don't complain when there's no content and there's a whole bunch of people who will have some very valid statements to make about the treatment of humanity on the HIVE blockchain.
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> A place to be social. A place to make connections. A place to keep rambling, ranting passionate people like me from tugging on the sleeve of strangers on the street to tell them about my deep and passionate notions on the things I am interested and fascinated with. Yes. That's the Heart Metric. I can't believe you haven't rigged on my sleeve before this year, and I you. If we don't have a good HM here, we don't have a place worth being, even if we have awesome KE scores.
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Tugging on sleeves, riding on coat tails, I'll do anything for deep, profound, meaningful, yet ultimately, pointless conversation. Maybe my calling is as a cab driver or an uber driver. Just to have deep and profound, wandering conversations with people as they move through their life.
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Although I *am* a metrics nerd and look at the heart as an organ that needs plumbing sometimes (cant take the scrub nurse out of the girl right?) but also looks at the hormon stress factor of the broken heart syndrome which can caused by reasons *we dont always know.*.the KE is also like this, My KE sucks totally but indeed, it *doesnt* see my nearly daily posting for 7 years already, it doesn't see me buying tickets to hive fest from these funds, it doesn't me buying the license node validator for 1200 bucks in splinterlands, which is all community allocated. Sure I sell funds as well on exchanges, I try to trade my way into better funds, who knows if that will work. But hey...doesn't being a cool human also count? ;) On the other hand what someone else here also says: if you have 1 dollar and you can give it to someone that has a neat KE or a full on cash outer...Hey, I would also give it to the same Luckily we can choose who we want to vote to!
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Oh man, I love your comment so much. You may be a data girl but hey you also know there's more to it, just as there's more to the heart than simple plumbing. I am so far to the emotional side that many here brush me aside but hey, if you put the math and poetry people together, something happens. You're a perfect example of me using the heart metric. I don't give a fuck about your KE score. What I see is you being social here, going to Hive Fests (jealous), etc etc. I often upvote you JUST BECAUSE I know you're a good player. HM, baby. The Heart Metric.
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I had to learn many ratios as a trainee accountant. Some of them I remember. And many, I've forgotten. But the bigger lesson I learnt was that no single ratio can measure the strength of a business. In fact, good auditors see very high scores as just as much of a warning as low scores. More importantly, anyone taking any type of action based on one ratio would be sacked immediately. One analogy that sticks in my mind relates to the forensic scientist. Given a hair sample, they wouldn't simply compare the length. Instead, they would take lots of different measurements to arrive at conclusions. Rather than declaring someone a murderer because they have the same length of hair as was clutched in the victims hand. The KE ratio might be a strong signal to investigate further. But surely nobody is stupid enough to base their curation strategies on that single scale? !BBH
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> But surely nobody is stupid enough to base their curation strategies on that single scale? My argument exactly. Some arguments suggest so - but most of us would look at the bigger picture. I like the forensic analogy. It's easy to say... Yeah, he did it, based on one piece of evidence, but it's important to see it from many angles, right?
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Yes, that is right. When you wrote: >If they’re *completely* ignoring KE, that’s probably not right either. I thought, "well I completely ignored it!" Then I realised that I was not right. Which prompted me to remember that long-remembered analogy. And just now, I noticed your emphasis on 'completely'. So let's hope that the proponents of the KE ratio will use it as a guiding light towards further research. Not as a harsh rule to punish good people. Finally, I forgot to thank you for the post. It was a great read. Right from the heart ♥️
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The heart is *just* a spiral vortex. I'm kidding! I nearly died of broken heart this year... That's why I don't like to "heart invest" (in anything?) as you say 
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Thank you for your [witness vote](https://hivesigner.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=isnochys&approve=1)! Have a !BEER on me! To Opt-Out of my witness beer program just comment STOP below
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Oh no... Really??? But still, when we lose money we start again don't we? The possibility of pain shouldn't be a reason to not invest in the heart - because the rewards for a good investment are pretty bloody awesome. Recover well.
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Hola, me gusta su foto.
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Some of your "legit" reasons to dump Hive are hilarious: "*HIVE might be powered down to use in Splinterlands*": What this does it that the Hive go to the pockets of the Splinterlands-makers, they pay the devs (if there are some still) and those then cash out. Makes no difference if you directly cash out or via buying cards first. I still find the KE useful. I more likely (and with my heart) upvote a post from a user with KE <1 than one with >10 if both are otherwise equal. It is that easy.
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Splinterlands, seriously, I have no idea 🤣🤣🤣 Glad to amuse you, honestly, that shits beyond me 🤣 Re Honestly, I try! And yes, my argument wasn't against KE but about using various metrics.
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I have a good KE and I probably get good votes for my comments (I rarely write posts). But it's so funny when people take KE into account when voting. As if the price of HIVE will grow if several hundred people accumulate $100-200 per month, instead of withdrawing to HBD or an exchange. Hive's capitalization is over $100 million and daily trades are in the millions of dollars. HIVE sales of $1-2 thousand per day do not solve anything. The value of the HIVE token does not depend on this at all.
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roadstories | 0 | 5,481,118,274 | 30% | ||
tibfox | 0 | 113,716,663,668 | 100% | ||
riverflows | 0 | 209,901,115,398 | 26% | ||
stevenwood | 0 | 19,420,307,033 | 12% | ||
sarix | 0 | 4,876,181,544 | 30% | ||
justclickindiva | 0 | 302,484,213,445 | 45% | ||
atma.love | 0 | 6,050,422,958 | 13.2% | ||
elcomentador | 0 | 15,970,464,155 | 60% | ||
jesustiano | 0 | 19,257,800,629 | 70% | ||
alandesign | 0 | 2,717,785,985 | 100% | ||
sannae.art | 0 | 2,416,054,363 | 100% | ||
xpax120 | 0 | 952,963,608 | 60% | ||
carmary | 0 | 1,970,242,011 | 100% | ||
josewilchez | 0 | 721,705,401 | 100% | ||
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No, and it irks me to think people take it into account. It's abhorrent I think - no one should be judging us on our KE score!!! I'd be happy if it was removed entirely.
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