Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change by stortebeker

View this thread on: hive.blog | peakd.com | ecency.com

permaculture · @stortebeker · Jun 29 '20 (edited)

$38.98

Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change

<html>
<h2>Overlapping Principles</h2>
<p>Continuing in my series of Permaculture Principles, I want to examine Holmgren's first and last item in his list of twelve principles. This is not the first time that I've combined two separate points. In my post <a href="https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-obrain-a-yield-and-everything-gardens">Obtain a Yield and Everything Gardens</a> I discussed one of Mollison's principles together with one of Holmgren's, as I think they are both based on the same idea. Likewise, in <a href="https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-stacking-functions-and-stacking-elements">Stacking Functions and Stacking Elements</a> I looked at two separate items on Pittman's list, which Holmgren places under<a href="https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-integrate-rather-than-segregate"> Integrate Rather Than Segregate</a>. I think this is a useful practice in distilling the essence of ideas behind each of these points, helping me and my readers understand and internalize them. (<a href="https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-a-starting-point">Here </a>are my three lists of principles, according to Mollison, Holmgren, and Pittman.) So what about Homgren's number one and number twelve? Why did he separate them, and why do I think they belong together?&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/07/05/13/50/binoculars-2474698_960_720.jpg" width="960" height="640"/></p>
<h2>Observe and Interact&nbsp;</h2>
<p>It should be quite obvious, but I still want to point it out: The basis of Permaculture is observation! All of my teachers, and anyone I know with any knowledge of Permaculture will point out that it's better to observe more than less. When acquiring a property, a good designer will conduct a thorough observation before making any changes to it. Even before making a plan for doing anything with the land. How long should such an observation last? Long … ! Ideally, five seasons (in temperate regions). This may sound a bit extreme, I know, but it's really the best way to get an idea of all the changes happening throughout a year, including the season you started in, once the entire cycle has been completed.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Some friends of mine who've followed this principle on a piece of property they bought told me how they were given the dirty-hippy label by their neighbors, for just camping on their land, “observing” instead of cutting down the bush and plowing the land... As a result, they made sure to follow the recommended five-season observation extra carefully, while taking meticulous notes, and designing a plan of action to continue their observation with deliberate experimentation. Eventually the "dirty-hippies" became the "mad scientists" in their neighbors' eyes, which both of my friends were quite happy with.</p>
<h2>What to Observe on a Property?&nbsp;</h2>
<p>As we know, Permaculture may be applied to a variety of settings, not only to farms. For the sake of convenience, I want to give examples of some of the things to look at while observing your property:&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
  <li><strong>Soil</strong>: consistency and make-up (sand, clay, silt, loam), layers and depths, mineral content, microbiological diversity, possible contaminants, etc. depending on your needs. It's also a good idea to analyze the soil in various locations throughout the property, as it can vary greatly.&nbsp;</li>
  <li><strong>Water</strong>: This includes a number of things, from the rate (and types) of precipitation to the depth of the ground water table, as well as the depth of ponds and their fluctuations throughout the year. Which way the water flows is another essential piece of info, which I included under "Flows" further down.</li>
  <li><strong>Flora and Fauna</strong>: What kinds of plants and animals can be found on the site? A list should include the various attributes of each species (input and output, that is needs and products, and other features), as well as how abundant they are, and which part of the property they tend to be in. A comprehensive list should give the observer an idea of the connection-web existent between species, such as who feeds on whom, what benefits one species gets from another, and the types of relationships they have (competition, symbiosis, parasitism, etc.).&nbsp;</li>
  <li><strong>The Lay of the Land</strong>: What are the changes in elevation of the site's topography? Where do they occur? How steep are they? How do they affect the flow of water, the shade during the seasons, the local temperature? This information can best be illustrated visually on a map. With a good scale and various overlays, it can be combined with other information.&nbsp;</li>
  <li><strong>The Weather</strong>: this is a complex one. Of course, the general climate data is the overall basis of it, but it should go deeper. Identifying existing pockets of microclimates, and how they differ from the rest of the site. This should also take such things in consideration as the shaded areas, and how they change throughout the seasons, or even just a day. See why the five-season observation is not an exaggeration? Once completed, the site map should show the weather-related sectors (sun, wind, etc.)</li>
  <li><strong>Flows</strong>: Which path does the surface runoff take, that is where does the water flow? This observation is best conducted while it rains. If the site happens to be in an arid region, catching the optimal time is crucial. But there are other flows other than water. Where does cold air flow, where does it get caught on the property? How about the flow (or path) animals take? What about the flow of our own walks? This may be a separate point, but you can see that there is a great deal of overlap in information.&nbsp;</li>
  <li><strong>Other Items</strong>: This can include such things as neighboring sites, as well as social interaction with people, the history of the site, or possible restrictions and/or requirements imposed by outside forces. Every part is essential to complete the big picture of the site.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Interaction as Part of the Observation</h2>
<p>Ironically, one of the best ways we can get to know the subject of our observation is by interacting with them. In order to do so most efficiently, it's important to keep an open mind, leaving aside preconceived notions, making small and simple changes we can repeat several times, to get a good number of reactions, and always leaving space for alternative interpretations. So in a way, the best observation is not by inaction, but by reducing our actions to the purpose of getting to know our site's features. To avoid having to re-invent the wheel, it is also a good idea to reflect on our observations in light of information found elsewhere: in books, websites, and other sources of knowledge, accumulated by others before us. They are intended to complete and put into perspective our own findings, so a good amount of skepticism doesn't hurt regarding our own interpretations, as well as what we've read.&nbsp;</p>
<h2>Observing Change</h2>
<p>Once we've gathered sufficient data, we start getting an idea of what conditions are considered “normal” on our site. At the same time we will be able to identify pieces of info that won't fit into this picture, or follow a different pattern. After all, we know that the only constant is change, especially in natural systems. So it is important to get to know these changes as well: Where do they occur, under what conditions? Do they occur repeatedly? If so, we may be able to identify another pattern. What could be the possible causes for a change, and what are its consequences? Finally, how can we integrate it into our grand design?</p>
<h2>The Scientific Method?</h2>
<p>Even though Holmgren goes into great depths in discussing these two principles, including discussions on ecological succession, evolution, and post-modern relativism, the basis of these two principles is the same:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Identify an issue.</li>
  <li>Consider realistic actions.</li>
  <li>Take action.</li>
  <li>Reflect on result.</li>
  <li>Restate the issue in light of the actions taken.</li>
</ul>
<p>To me this seems awfully close to the steps in the scientific method:&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/The_Scientific_Method_as_an_Ongoing_Process.svg/450px-The_Scientific_Method_as_an_Ongoing_Process.svg.png" width="450" height="371"/></p>
<p>Not surprisingly, this method was developed to let us get to know the natural world, with sufficient objective scrutiny to eliminate misinterpretations, which can be quite abundant given the myriad of factors usually in place in natural ecosystems. So in other words, don't jump to conclusions, do some extra rounds of testing and data-gathering, share your results with others, and take sufficient time for developing your final design.</p>

</ul>
<p>Sources: <a href="https://lbry.tv/@sustainability:6/permaculture---a-designers-manual---bill-mollison:0">1</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method">2</a>, Pics: <a href="https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/07/05/13/50/binoculars-2474698_960_720.jpg">1</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method">2</a></p>
</ul>
</html>

## To see my discussions of other Permaculture Principles, take a look at these posts:
[Permaculture: A Starting Point](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-a-starting-point)

## David Holmgren
1. [Observe and interact](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change)
2. [Catch and store energy](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-capture-and-store-energy-make-the-most-of-energy)
3. [Obtain a yield](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-obrain-a-yield-and-everything-gardens)
4. [Apply self-regulation and accept feedback](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-apply-self-regulation-and-accept-feedback)
5. [Use and value renewable resources and services](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-use-and-value-renewable-resources-and-services)
6. [Produce no waste](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-produce-no-waste)
7. [Design from patterns to details](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permacultue-principles-design-from-patterns-to-details)
8. [Integrate rather than segregate](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-integrate-rather-than-segregate)
9. [Use small and slow solutions](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-use-small-and-slow-solutions)
10. [Use and value diversity](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-use-and-value-diversity)
11. [Use edges and value the marginal](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-making-the-most-of-edges)
12. [Creatively use and respond to change](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change)

## Bill Mollison
1. [Work with nature, not against it](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-cooperation-instead-of-competition-and-work-with-nature-not-against-it)
2. [The problem is the solution](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-the-problem-is-the-solution)
3. [Maximum effect for minimum effort](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-maximum-effect-for-minimum-effort)
4. [The yield of the system is theoretically unlimited](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-the-yield-of-the-system-is-theoretically-unlimited)
5. [Everything gardens](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-obrain-a-yield-and-everything-gardens)

## Scott Pittman
1. [Cooperation instead of competition](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-cooperation-instead-of-competition-and-work-with-nature-not-against-it)
2. [Every function is served by multiple elements](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-stacking-functions-and-stacking-elements)
3. [Every element serves multiple functions](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-stacking-functions-and-stacking-elements)
4. [Make the most out of energy](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-capture-and-store-energy-make-the-most-of-energy)
5. [Use the edge effect](https://peakd.com/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-making-the-most-of-edges)
6. [Everything is connected](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-everything-is-connected)
7. [The problem is the solution](https://peakd.com/hive-181465/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-the-problem-is-the-solution)

👍 curie, hendrikdegrote, anwenbaumeister, pharesim, homesteadbuilder, ura-soul, foodie.warrior, aunt-deb, kushed, kiaraantonoviche, joearnold, stortebeker, greenacrehome, mrfunkymonk, wholesomeroots, elgeko, aedroberts, followbtcnews, vibeof100monkeys, americanrabbit, palmerjm1, brimwoodfarm, pcourtnier, theleapingkoala, roniakbar623, steemithomestead, woll, belgarath, xoni, john-gpr, besteulz, cecicastor, rahmatidhami, vander, minnowpond1, exe8422, sciborg

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture","principles","sustainability","theory","homesteadslackers"],"image":["https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/07/05/13/50/binoculars-2474698_960_720.jpg","https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/The_Scientific_Method_as_an_Ongoing_Process.svg/450px-The_Scientific_Method_as_an_Ongoing_Process.svg.png"],"links":["/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-obrain-a-yield-and-everything-gardens","/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-stacking-functions-and-stacking-elements","/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-integrate-rather-than-segregate","/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-a-starting-point","https://lbry.tv/@sustainability:6/permaculture---a-designers-manual---bill-mollison:0","https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method","https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/07/05/13/50/binoculars-2474698_960_720.jpg","https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method","/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-a-starting-point","/permaculture/@stortebeker/permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change"],"app":"peakd/2020.06.2","format":"markdown","community":"steempeak","users":["stortebeker","sustainability"]}
`created`	2017-09-25 21:02:12
`last_update`	2020-06-29 16:50:15
`depth`	0
`children`	23
`last_payout`	2017-10-02 21:02:12
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	29.756 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	9.220 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	13,087
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,922,583
`net_rshares`	11,068,306,222,071
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (37)

voter	rshares	pct
pharesim	94,751,850,194	0.06%
kushed	17,857,263,140	0.6%
anwenbaumeister	192,317,939,105	6%
joearnold	15,610,918,441	100%
curie	6,663,819,177,218	6%
ura-soul	85,281,211,374	49%
hendrikdegrote	3,761,518,572,708	6%
aunt-deb	22,602,981,576	30%
elgeko	8,010,978,019	6%
pcourtnier	1,768,600,830	100%
john-gpr	567,312,353	5.4%
kiaraantonoviche	16,538,508,411	30%
greenacrehome	9,324,504,450	100%
followbtcnews	3,107,777,213	5%
cecicastor	365,528,557	100%
stortebeker	15,601,253,367	100%
besteulz	457,460,810	6%
foodie.warrior	30,293,804,898	25%
wholesomeroots	8,291,940,409	100%
exe8422	109,402,736	6%
minnowpond1	148,102,730	1%
vibeof100monkeys	2,761,293,329	100%
mrfunkymonk	9,050,270,978	100%
sciborg	88,072,983	50%
theleapingkoala	1,334,357,577	3%
vander	304,116,362	100%
aedroberts	4,941,409,766	100%
palmerjm1	1,983,454,070	100%
steemithomestead	1,015,240,227	75%
americanrabbit	2,624,855,238	30%
belgarath	607,627,404	2.4%
rahmatidhami	324,656,571	100%
woll	1,001,616,030	100%
brimwoodfarm	1,963,573,163	100%
homesteadbuilder	90,229,858,525	100%
xoni	575,940,876	100%
roniakbar623	1,154,790,433	100%

@aedroberts · Sep 25 '17

Years ago, I learned at an ECHO conference (https://www.echonet.org/) that sustainable agriculture needed to be integrated. For example, rabid folks, for decades, have claimed that cattle are a waste of the land. That's a high stack of bovine manure. Kine and even more goats can graze on rocky lands. Regardless, they maintain the health of prairie lands which would need a substantial movement of organic materials and work to convert into intense vegetable production. By moving chickens (via tractors) into the lastly grazed areas, the land heals quicker. Such pairie lands are a vital part of a macro-eco-system. These lands then facilitate the possibility of maximizing of nearby crop production.

properties (22)

`author`	aedroberts
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170925t224503612z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"links":["https://www.echonet.org/"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-25 22:45:06
`last_update`	2017-09-25 22:45:06
`depth`	1
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-02 22:45:06
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	702
`author_reputation`	1,813,825,619,410
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,928,482
`net_rshares`	0

@stortebeker · Sep 26 '17

I agree, it's usually not the species that causes harm (including us evil humans), but the way they are kept. One such great example happened at the farm in Nicaragua I was volunteering, where the owner was talking about getting oil-palm trees and all the hippy volunteers literally cried out: "Noooo! What a horrible tree." Until the guy explained that he wanted a tree for each family in the community, so they can locally make their own cooking oil, not a huge plantation. Generalizations are generally to be avoided.

properties (22)

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-aedroberts-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t203106740z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 20:31:06
`last_update`	2017-09-26 20:31:06
`depth`	2
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 20:31:06
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	520
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,018,632
`net_rshares`	0

@brimwoodfarm · Sep 25 '17

Excellent article and food for thought.  I have some farmland that I'll be properly putting into production in a couple of years time - at the moment it's a case of just maintaining it. Of course, I have been observing but not to quite this level of detail which perhaps I should if I want to start of with success. 

Lots of great info here, and will make sure I try and utilise some of it over coming months!

👍 aunt-deb

`author`	brimwoodfarm
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170925t212519357z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-25 21:25:18
`last_update`	2017-09-25 21:25:18
`depth`	1
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-02 21:25:18
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	410
`author_reputation`	7,357,888,102,841
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,924,022
`net_rshares`	4,109,633,013
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (1)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
aunt-deb	0 B		4,109,633,013	5%

@stortebeker · Sep 26 '17

The nice thing about having a piece of property is that you can always do a bit of observation here and there, and develop a feel for the land, which can give you ideas and inspirations. Then, when you go out to gather data in active observation (measurements) you can combine them into a good design.

properties (22)

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-brimwoodfarm-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t204043567z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 20:41:03
`last_update`	2017-09-26 20:41:03
`depth`	2
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 20:41:03
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	301
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,019,295
`net_rshares`	0

@cecicastor · Sep 25 '17

This is a great series on permaculture. Many people jump in without putting thought and planning into what they are doing. Then they wonder why it is failing. We have been observing, planning and living on our homestead for six years and every day we learn something new...

👍 aunt-deb

`author`	cecicastor
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170925t213143488z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-25 21:31:42
`last_update`	2017-09-25 21:31:42
`depth`	1
`children`	2
`last_payout`	2017-10-02 21:31:42
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	273
`author_reputation`	9,671,429,332,887
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,924,423
`net_rshares`	4,109,633,013
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (1)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
aunt-deb	0 B		4,109,633,013	5%

@stortebeker · Sep 26 '17

And then there is the other extreme of folks who spend months or even years on their property without even moving a single rock. You have to engage gently with your surrounding to get to know it. Then you will get a feel for the kind of changes that will benefit everyone.

properties (22)

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-cecicastor-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t203647059z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 20:36:45
`last_update`	2017-09-26 20:36:45
`depth`	2
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 20:36:45
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	272
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,018,975
`net_rshares`	0

@cecicastor · Sep 27 '17

So true...

properties (22)

`author`	cecicastor
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-re-cecicastor-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170927t125209758z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-27 12:52:09
`last_update`	2017-09-27 12:52:09
`depth`	3
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-04 12:52:09
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	10
`author_reputation`	9,671,429,332,887
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,079,847
`net_rshares`	0

@foodie.warrior · Sep 26 '17

It sounds like a lot of patience is necessary in this process..I'm sure you've had a load of self-training in that department!! =D

properties (22)

`author`	foodie.warrior
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t162447297z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 16:24:42
`last_update`	2017-09-26 16:24:42
`depth`	1
`children`	2
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 16:24:42
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	130
`author_reputation`	3,407,069,478,992
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,999,268
`net_rshares`	0

@stortebeker · Sep 26 '17

Oh, you know it, hehehe! I like to train every chance I get. Mexico is a great trainer for that, so is trading crypto-coins, and playing around with linux...

properties (22)

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-foodiewarrior-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t201532124z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 20:15:30
`last_update`	2017-09-26 20:15:30
`depth`	2
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 20:15:30
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	157
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,017,588
`net_rshares`	0

@foodie.warrior · Oct 13 '17 (edited)

hehe yes...bitcoin is on a boom with a lot of red everywhere else..guess it's a good time to start buying other alts =D

properties (22)

`author`	foodie.warrior
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-re-foodiewarrior-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20171013t210813020z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-10-13 21:08:12
`last_update`	2017-10-13 21:08:24
`depth`	3
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-20 21:08:12
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	119
`author_reputation`	3,407,069,478,992
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	17,615,510
`net_rshares`	0

@homesteadbuilder · Sep 27 '17

We spent more than a year observing our land before moving forward with crafting it. My favorite was looking at it during torrential downpours to see where the water ran. Great post!

properties (22)

`author`	homesteadbuilder
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170927t024350724z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-27 02:43:54
`last_update`	2017-09-27 02:43:54
`depth`	1
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-04 02:43:54
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	182
`author_reputation`	144,573,005,541
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,040,796
`net_rshares`	0

@stortebeker · Sep 27 '17

Oh I know, running around in the rainstorm like crazy, planting little flags all over the place. It can be a lot of fun... How big is your property, and what are you doing on it?

properties (22)

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-homesteadbuilder-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170927t130608148z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-27 13:06:09
`last_update`	2017-09-27 13:06:09
`depth`	2
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-04 13:06:09
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	178
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,080,969
`net_rshares`	0

@minnowpond1 · Sep 25 '17

This post recieved an upvote from minnowpond. If you would like to recieve upvotes from minnowpond on all your posts, simply FOLLOW @minnowpond

properties (22)

`author`	minnowpond1
`permlink`	re-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170925t211256
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	"{"app": "pysteem/0.5.4"}"
`created`	2017-09-25 21:12:57
`last_update`	2017-09-25 21:12:57
`depth`	1
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-02 21:12:57
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	143
`author_reputation`	383,828,786,455
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,923,258
`net_rshares`	0

@mrfunkymonk · Sep 26 '17

Its always a joy to see someone posting about Permaculture. Great informative post.

properties (22)

`author`	mrfunkymonk
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t102426153z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 10:24:27
`last_update`	2017-09-26 10:24:27
`depth`	1
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 10:24:27
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	83
`author_reputation`	1,328,111,743,564
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,969,388
`net_rshares`	0

@stortebeker · Sep 26 '17

$0.03

Thank you, I'll try to keep the practice going.

👍 mrfunkymonk

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-mrfunkymonk-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t201610585z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 20:16:09
`last_update`	2017-09-26 20:16:09
`depth`	2
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 20:16:09
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.022 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.006 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	47
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,017,626
`net_rshares`	8,909,593,191
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (1)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
mrfunkymonk	0 B		8,909,593,191	100%

@pcourtnier · Sep 25 '17

It sounds so easy to observe and act, but I find I often jump into what I want rather than what is needed. 

I have wasted money on plants requiring shade at amounts, different water drainage, different soil needs, etc. 

Sometimes it's best to listen to mother nature rather than implement my desires!

Thanks for the post.
Followed

👍 aunt-deb, vander

properties (23)vote details (2)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
aunt-deb	0 B		4,109,633,013	5%
vander	0 B		300,699,324	100%

@stortebeker · Sep 25 '17

I know... we can't force nature to go our ways. All we can do is prepare a way she is most like going to take, with the things we actually want as a built-in consequence. If there is barely any shade on your property, the shade loving plants won't thrive. But if you insist on them, better create some shade first. It's also worth keeping in mind how our modern culture has trained us to take the opposite approach: if you throw enough money and energy at it, you an force anything you want. Unfortunately, even if that works, it's only superficial, while creating many underlying problems.

👍 aunt-deb, vander

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-pcourtnier-re-stortebeker-2017925t1492322z-20170925t211807530z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-25 21:18:06
`last_update`	2017-09-25 21:18:06
`depth`	2
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-02 21:18:06
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	590
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,923,615
`net_rshares`	4,403,498,261
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (2)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
aunt-deb	0 B		4,109,633,013	5%
vander	0 B		293,865,248	100%

@rahmatidhami · Sep 27 '17

Nice post

properties (22)

@themerrylotus · Sep 25 '17

I love this article. So timely for me. I just finished a permaculture class at Oregon State University. Intuitively I knew some of this before hand. Without ever reading a word about it, I lived on my land in a tent before building my off-grid house. By doing that, I was able to pick the best location for it. I changed my mind twice. I live in a concrete berm home and if I had placed it where I initially wanted, my passive heating abilities would have been shot. I look forward to your next posts.

properties (22)

`author`	themerrylotus
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170925t225155011z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-25 22:52:00
`last_update`	2017-09-25 22:52:00
`depth`	1
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-02 22:52:00
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	501
`author_reputation`	2,737,769,034,923
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	15,928,846
`net_rshares`	0

@stortebeker · Sep 26 '17

I know, all of this should be common sense, right? I think deep down somewhere it still is. Thanks to PDC courses we can actually raise it to a conscious level.

properties (22)

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-themerrylotus-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t202148769z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 20:21:48
`last_update`	2017-09-26 20:21:48
`depth`	2
`children`	0
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 20:21:48
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	160
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,018,010
`net_rshares`	0

@vibeof100monkeys · Sep 26 '17

Very informative post, thanks. I have a long way to go not even got any lan yet. But guess I could start observing potential areas :)

properties (22)

`author`	vibeof100monkeys
`permlink`	re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t175512743z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 17:55:12
`last_update`	2017-09-26 17:55:12
`depth`	1
`children`	2
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 17:55:12
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	133
`author_reputation`	10,659,381,320,992
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,007,006
`net_rshares`	0

@stortebeker · Sep 26 '17

Neither do I... but that doesn't keep me from observing what- and wherever I can. :-)

properties (22)

`author`	stortebeker
`permlink`	re-vibeof100monkeys-re-stortebeker-permaculture-principles-observe-and-interact-and-creatively-use-and-respond-to-change-20170926t201353424z
`category`	permaculture
`json_metadata`	{"tags":["permaculture"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
`created`	2017-09-26 20:13:51
`last_update`	2017-09-26 20:13:51
`depth`	2
`children`	1
`last_payout`	2017-10-03 20:13:51
`cashout_time`	1969-12-31 23:59:59
`total_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`curator_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	85
`author_reputation`	351,081,970,778,202
`root_title`	"Permaculture Principles: Observe and Interact and Creatively Use and Respond to Change"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	16,017,469
`net_rshares`	0

@vibeof100monkeys · Sep 26 '17

Indeed very true :)

properties (22)