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Feeling FUD-ish? by tarazkp

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· @tarazkp ·
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Feeling FUD-ish?
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You know, with how life seems to be at the moment, sometimes I "feel the FUD" and think that 

>*next time, I am out.* 

At times, my own resilience wavers and I entertain the idea of cashing out, paying off debts, giving up on this crypto stuff all together. I even wonder if staying in is detrimental to my health, with all these rollercoaster ups and downs, the crashes, the hacks, the scams.

>Are the naysayers right?


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*They very well could be.* 

>But what are the alternatives? 

The current economy? That is a fucking mess and a scam in and of itself, designed and implemented to move wealth from the poorest to the richest in a process that concentrates control of all things in a shrinking amount of hands. Crypto might fail, but staying with the current economic conditions is guaranteed to fail the vast majority of people on earth, no matter the country, government, or personal actions taken. It is just the way it has been created and how the incentives drive the economic activity. 

And it isn't like people are on average getting more economically knowledgeably and financially savvy, quite the opposite. Society seems to be losing what little economic literacy we once held and instead are making ever worse decisions based on emotional conditions, rather than what the actual "reality" of the market might be. 

For example, I was reading about how a 24 year old sold some shares in Australia to get a deposit on a house and now, she is struggling to pay the mortgage as interest rates increase. However, she bought in June, *which is after* the rates had started to increase and the expectation was that they are going to increase even further. Which they have, for ten straight months. 

>Is it her fault?

Yes, as she made the decision. But it should be noted, that as a society, we do a fucking horrible job of improving financial understanding and instead of discussing these things openly, the conversation around "money" has been made taboo. Not even friends talk about it with each other, unless it is a group that has come together around it already. 

For me at least, it is the same in the home, where while I am highly interested in a lot of financial aspects of life, my wife is *not interested at all.* As long as the bills are paid and we have food in our stomachs, she doesn't care, even though it has such a massive impact on our life experience and wellbeing, especially in times of negative growth, where that "bills paid and food in the bell" can become a little bit tenuous for many. 

>She'd be happy if I sold it all and we were debt free.

*Even if 6 months later we "could have had" 10 times as much.* 

I think that this is somewhat to do with the difference in our backgrounds, where while her parents aren't wealthy, she never really had to go without basics, never experienced financial scarcity. When there is no major period of not enough, living a little more hand to mouth might not seem too bad, until it becomes an actual issue.

>But I get it.

When the price is down, that could have had ten times as much is still there, except instead, it is in the other direction. With current evaluations as what they are, personal value is 90% less than it was just a year ago, but the house in which we live is about the same as it was, plus the renovation work we have done. With the economy is as it is, if I had instead cashed out and covered all debts, we wouldn't have to worry much about increasing prices on cost of living, or keeping a roof overhead. 

>But, what then? 

Would I be happier? Perhaps, but I think I would at least be less stressed, less worried about the current conditions. Yet, would I be worried about the future? Yes. Because as I see it, even with all the FUD around that buzzes in the background, I am very bullish on crypto and *not having a position* puts more fear in me than having a technical loss position *from the highs.* And this is also something to remember, that the losses are largely technical, until selling and when there were the highs, I was definitely "up" on my investments and even now, above break even. 

>Come the bullrun though....

*Next time, Next time...* 

I am still learning how to manage financial life, as the start was like many, not conducive to monetary success. How I feel though, whether reality or not, is that I am still on the right track, even though along that path, there have been a few setbacks and missteps. 

>FUD.

*It is pervasive and persuasive, isn't it?*

After so many years though, I don't let it affect me too much and other than evaluating the past to see what I can learn, it is generally a game of patience and waiting for the markets to turn, and all those naysayers suddenly going quiet or shifting their narrative to say, *it was always going to because...*

It is quite predictable. 
Just have to hold for long enough. 


Taraz
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@boboman ·
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Looks like you and me getting the Aussie goss from the same news.com.au. :D

I agree that sadly it's her fault and she is totally to blame as there is plenty of resources out there that advise you how to try to manage your money. The first article I read before buying my place was to assume you have enough to cover a 2-3% increase in your home loan rate. The reason being is that the worse thing then being in debt is financial stress. If you can't afford it, really please do not buy it.

My wife is similar to yours, maybe only 10% interested in the household finances. Only time she takes notice is when I tell her to reduce the amount we spend on takeaway or eating out.... Flip side though, would you actually want your wife to be fully in your face with the finances. That would mean you have to make more disclosures on your "alternative" investment..... !LOL
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@tarazkp ·
>Looks like you and me getting the Aussie goss from the same news.com.au. :D

Yeah, I am unwilling to pay for any news services - especially considering the quality of them :D

After 2008, you'd think there was more robust stress testing before handing out large loans - the banks are to blame too. 

>Flip side though, would you actually want your wife to be fully in your face with the finances. That would mean you have to make more disclosures on your "alternative" investment....

Good point. It would be nice if she took half an interest... :D

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@boboman ·
Banks gotta make money still and some level of financial stress on their customers means more money for them. I think read that article you mentioned and I think she will be fine, she just needs to cut back, so it's not like in the US when people literally could not pay their mortgages and had to default. My concerns are the higher income earners who have taken out 1-2 million loans on the assumption of low interest rates and have "regular expenses" like private school and expensive car loans as well. Someone I know is looking at 10k per month on mortgage & car loan payments alone. I can see the financial stress on this face, but he has to pretend everything is ok for his kids and everyone else.

My wife's half an interest is the "Sell sell sell" part. My half is the "Buy buy buy" part....Lol
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@bozz ·
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RE: Feeling FUD-ish?
Sounds like we have even more in common that I thought before.  My wife is the same way.  When we got together she was more than happy to let me take over the finances. I still try to keep her updated, but she often looks at me like why are you telling me this, I don't care!  

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@tarazkp ·
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>I still try to keep her updated, but she often looks at me like why are you telling me this, I don't care!

Perhaps it is like a hobby, shouldn't they be interested in what interests us?
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@bozz ·
I dunno, she has some hobbies that don't appeal to me at all, so I kind of get it.
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@cryptoandcoffee ·
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Funny I also did a reflective post today and no way am I selling as I have come too far to even consider this. I would rather be in debt than sell my crypto and that is kind of nuts but this is the future we are dealing with right here.
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@tarazkp ·
Debt one month, well in the black the next - it is so volatile that a few weeks changes everything. As long as we are surviving now, I can wait. 
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@djbravo ·
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I will share you in my country economy condition. In Pakistan day by day food prices going very high and poor can't survive. Basic salery of a person is 20 thousand prk and cocking oil price is 5 hundred. Petrol price increase 80'/'.
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@tarazkp ·
Yeah, it is getting crazy. 
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@ebingo ·
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When you said 
> Society seems to be losing what little economic literacy we once held and instead are making ever worse decisions based on emotional conditions, rather than what the actual "reality" of the market might be.

All I could think about is how cuddled the world is and how much we encourage cuddling people from the realities of life. One major reality about life is that it is hard. It always has been and it always will be.

In the past, people had similar difficulties getting financial education except it was worse going through a library when now all you need to do is check google and you might even find a coach around your area that is willing to guide you for a significantly less price than you would if you factor in inflation.

I think times are harder now because we have really made it that way for ourselves and a big part of that is telling people it is okay to be irresponsible so long as the situation was hurting you.

I think right now is the best time for people to seek to diversify their income sources and possibly reinvest in crypto. If we hold on the FUD it will just eat us up.

The crypto market is not perfect but I think it is very clear that stocks and commodities have even worse players with more influence than the crypto market has gathered.

I hope things get better soon. I'm tired of holding on too...But I hope we can stay strong because we need each other here. We need to finish building this thing we started building.
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@tarazkp ·
We wrap people in cotton wool for so many things these days - they aren't used to taking responsibility for anything. 

In the past, I think that the education was at least practical, but the habits we have now tend to remove us from "touching" our money. People use cards and phones to pay for things - they don't watch the cash drain from their wallet physically. 

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@ebingo ·
> We wrap people in cotton wool for so many things these days - they aren't used to taking responsibility for anything.

Very bad for society in general.

> In the past, I think that the education was at least practical, but the habits we have now tend to remove us from "touching" our money. People use cards and phones to pay for things - they don't watch the cash drain from their wallet physically.

True...I read somewhere that using coins has a psychological effect on people. 
digital money is definitely different psychologically from the physical ones
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@galberto ·
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Fud Will kill us, well as people say, just hold on, hold on.
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@tarazkp ·
hold on, hold on.... still holding... :D
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@heruvim1978 ·
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I am lucky, as my wife has solid financial education, and likes to save, and so am I. So we are kind of aligned when is to expenses, we do not want to pay too much money on something that is not worth it, and so on. We do make some faces (you know, that couple telepathy, when you communicate with grimaces) when we see other couples, where one is money-savy, and another money-spending. I think it is difficult to be in a relationship like this, but everyone can educate himself/herself when it is to personal finance.
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@tarazkp ·
>I am lucky, as my wife has solid financial education, and likes to save, and so am I

Definitely lucky. It seems so common that women aren't interested in the financial side of things, but then.... doesn't it raise the uncomfortable reality of pay disparity? 

>but everyone can educate himself/herself when it is to personal finance.

Especially in this day and age. Yet, while very few learn about finance, they have endless amounts of time for Netflix and TikTok. 
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@heruvim1978 ·
There is no pay disparity as we work in the same place on the same level- position. Talking about luck (yeah, we met at work).
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@iskawrites ·
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I don't know why most people shy away from discussing their finances. 

For some, Money discussion breeds a lot of negative feelings. I guess this is one of the reasons people barely talk about it. 

Even though it would help them figure out the best possible way to go through their financial journey. 

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@tarazkp ·
>I don't know why most people shy away from discussing their finances.

Fear I suppose. Social persecution. 
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@iskawrites ·
I agree. I did want to add that. 

Is there a solution? 
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@jfang003 ·
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RE: Feeling FUD-ish?
Managing finances are tough and from the videos that I have seen about house buying, it's to get a fixed rate mortgage. I am not sure why the person went with something that goes up based on the rates.

I have to say that cutting back and living somewhat minimally has worked out well and making sure I have enough of a emergency fund helps

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@tarazkp ·
>I am not sure why the person went with something that goes up based on the rates.

Fixed rate are more expensive. She probably was told she would save...
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@jfang003 ·
RE: RE: Feeling FUD-ish?
When I was looking up financial stuff in the past, I ran across a few financial Youtubers and they convinced me that fixed rate is the best way to go. It's too bad for her but I guess it's a lesson she probably won't forget. I prefer the fixed rate for stability. Don't take chances when it comes to your own finances.

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@owasco ·
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I agree with your wife on the debt aspect. I have no debt, and my life is better now than back when I owed hundreds of thousands for mortgages, cars and credit cards. I feel safer too. Perhaps the next time there's a high, you might consider liquidating some to reduce your debt. 

I've "lost" quite a bit in bitcoin since June, when I first started buying in earnest. But I know that, in time, I will be very glad I did it. And I am prepared to buy even more if the lows that are being predicted come to pass. So, I'm in a great position - whichever way it goes, I'll be happy. 

Except for two young men (both ex-boyfriends of my daughter's who made fortunes in bitcoin), I am the only person I know in the flesh who has crypto of any kind. My friends think I'm insane. I tell them I see it as diversifying. They say "but what can you do with it?" and I bring up a list of the businesses nearby that take it as payment. They say "but how can I live without a credit card", and I show them that there are crypto credit cards. It's astonishing how little people know about crypto compared to me, and I know hardly anything. 
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@tarazkp ·
>Perhaps the next time there's a high, you might consider liquidating some to reduce your debt.

I will likely do it next time - I have been through a few bears already...

>I've "lost" quite a bit in bitcoin since June,

You haven't lost Bitcoin though - just the fiat value associated with it. It will come good :)

> It's astonishing how little people know about crypto compared to me, and I know hardly anything.


Most people are acting on 10 year old information, believing that nothing has changed since. It goes to show how out of date people's decision making criteria may actually be. Though, they believe they are correct. 

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@p1k4ppa10 ·
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I believe that the fact that we don't talk about our financial situations is also due to not having a real financial education. I would even teach it in schools, it would probably be much more useful than some subjects taught today... at least here in Italian schools. However we are in the same boat, even my wife has zero interest in the economy, but she knows how to manage money well eh eh!
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@tarazkp ·
The fact that they don't automatically teach it in schools should concern people, but it doesn't even raise an eyebrow. The economy affects us all and all we do - yet, we know so little about it and believe *we manage money well!* :)
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@p1k4ppa10 ·
But in fact yes, it's really worrying as a thought. As you say, the economy concerns all of us and everything we do and it is not even mentioned ... and at school they still study Latin or Greek ... Obviously I poaso refer to the Italian school system, I would never dare to judge other realities that I do not know. Thanks for sharing, I like the comparisonπŸ€—
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@riverflows ·
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I like reading posts like this and basically ignore all the FUD posts otherwise I'll cash out πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Your wife prob doesn't need financial literacy as that's your job! 

Omg I can't believe people got mortgages when rumours of interest rate hikes were RIGHT THERE. Were they too busy on reels and tik tok? Fuck me. 1.5m mates paid for an old self build weatherboard house on 10 acres that was 300 k five years ago. She was moaning about interest rates and I had to bite my tongue. Still, we live in am area where it's unlikely prices will drop much and there's plenty of rich people selling up in Melbs to move to coast. Demographics totally changed. 
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@tarazkp ·
>Your wife prob doesn't need financial literacy as that's your job!

But based on my health, it will likely be her job at some point too - so, she should bloody well learn!

>Were they too busy on reels and tik tok?

lolol - I suspect exactly this!

>She was moaning about interest rates and I had to bite my tongue.

I try not to talk to people about it, once they have already made the decision and pulled the trigger. But, why wouldn't they have a conversation prior? 
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@riverflows ·
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You know a lot of people I know are asking for early inheritance? I mean, I don't know that many people but it enough to make me raise an eyebrow. I think my parents would raise more than eyebrows if I threw that one at them. But goes to show how affluent some parts of this society are I suppose. 

Is there a skill your wife has that you don't? Maybe you could do a trade? 
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@rmsadkri ·
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Ha ha there was someone in Canada who bought a house right before things started to go up like a hot air balloon. Having said that, I have no intention to get out of the crypto portfolio I have. I will manage my expectations- at home and in the crypto portfolio I have. But, I will definitely will look to cash out a certain percentage of gains for following rainy days. 
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@tarazkp ·
Expectation management is definitely one of the lessons learned through being in crypto for any longer period of time! :D
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@rmsadkri ·
i am humbled and i feel like i know what happens when you go through a bear market. Beginning to is the right phrase coz the market is still going down
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@ryivhnn ·
The FUD and FOMO nonsense sounds very stressful.
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@sanjamkapoors ·
$0.17
I am still a teenager involved in these things, learning. I did put a little money for learning since past 1.5 year and as you said, you were up on your investments once and even at breakeven, moreover same situation but less amount. Comparitvely, I am at loss too but it completes the intention of entering into space "learning". Bear market teaches better.

> Crypto might fail, but staying with the current economic conditions is guaranteed to fail the vast majority of people on earth.

Exactly, we should understand this thought and should be working accordingly. Normal financial system's collapse is for sure, in a decade or number of decades. Crypto, personally I think is an opportunity to renovate many things here which could possibly make somewhat more "fairer" for many people as it is now.
The main point I have understood from reading and watching 100s of people in the past year from crypto is to "never risk that you cant afford to lose". Luckily, I was not into FTX and LUNA much but for people who were, financially and therefore mentally are destroyed mostly.
Excellent article BTW!
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@tarazkp ·
Bear markets are a good teacher indeed :)

FTX and Luna will go down in history as a turning point for the markets perhaps - the last dip before the start of the bull run :)
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@santigs ·
$0.21
I can see your point as I am exactly in the same position as you, my wife does not care at all about our investments in crypto and all she cares about is having enough to pay the bills.

I try to relax as much as I can when a  long bear trend as the one we are going through is taking place, I forget about reading the crypto financial news and just focus on the industry. None of the price predictions has taken place, neither the good ones nor the bad ones, all that counts is continuous adoption, and that is eventually what will make crypto increase its value over time

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@tarazkp ·
>all that counts is continuous adoption, 

And adoption seems to be happening - at least, people are taking their crypto off exchanges and creating wallets. 

> my wife does not care at all about our investments in crypto and all she cares about is having enough to pay the bills.

Do you think it would be better if she cared more?
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@santigs ·
Honestly, I don't know.

It is enough roller coaster for one of us, I don't want to imagine both of us going through the same feelings and also arguing about doing this or that (selling, buying, exchanging,...)

It is good to have equilibrium as a couple.
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@slhp ·
$0.18
FUDish time is time to accumulate.  FOMOish time is the time to book profit. 

Now is actually a good time to plan for the next bull market and be debt free, and not be impacted by greed and FOMO emotions. 

It will be very rewarding financially and emotionally. 
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@tarazkp ·
I need to learn to book profits - remind me :)

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@slhp ·
Ha.  It’s got to be a personal decision and own the decision.  I will be wrong to remind you for selling too early on hindsight (and this is my foresight) 😁
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@technicalside ·
$0.18
> And it isn't like people are on average getting more economically knowledgeably and financially savvy, quite the opposite. Society seems to be losing what little economic literacy we once held and instead are making ever worse decisions based on emotional conditions, rather than what the actual "reality" of the market might be.


I think everyone wants to make a quick buck... And who's to blame them, but risking money in stupid gambles... Well that's throwing yourself under the bus.

Whenever markets or economys takes a knock that is when one should start investing. Especially in companies that took knocks.. And had share prices driven down... Although you've got to have some wits about youπŸ˜‚ no help bying into a dead company now is there? 
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@tarazkp ·
The quick buck seems to end up taking a long time to pay off :)

The markets all over at the moment are taking a hit, but those with the means, are still buying the dip, while the rest are running scared. 
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@technicalside ·
Yeah that's true πŸ˜‚ I learned my lesson a few years back.. And now whenever a market dips I just buy in some more... Whether being crypto or shares related just buy more🀣 if you can ofcourse..

If not... Just bite back. Panic selling won't make it more in the first place. You haven't lost anything until you've sold
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@urri2020 ·
$0.17
If I want to take a break from crypto, I will set up automatic voting for posts in Hive and invest part of the funds in HBD at 20% per annum. I don't think the banks will offer me better terms.
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@tarazkp ·
I wonder how sustainable the 20% is longterm, but it seems to be working for now. Though, I don't have anything in HBD savings...
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@urri2020 ·
This is working for now. I didn't change the Hive portion above $1 for HBD. I'll do it next time. And I will not earn 2500 Hive per month, but 2500-3000 $ (since I will not spend earnings in Hive in the next bear market).
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@videoaddiction ·
I have stopped investing in cryptos for more than 6 months, and I have started in local stock market. However, it was bloody today as well, I hope it was just a reasonable correction and won't last long.

That doesn't mean I left cryptos forever ;)
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@vincentnijman ·
$0.18
> But what are the alternatives?

> The current economy? That is a fucking mess and a scam in and of itself, designed and implemented to move wealth from the poorest to the richest in a process that concentrates control of all things in a shrinking amount of hands

That

> After so many years though, I don't let it affect me too much and other than evaluating the past to see what I can learn, it is generally a game of patience and waiting for the markets to turn, and all those naysayers suddenly going quiet or shifting their narrative to say, it was always going to because...

And that.

:^)

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@yibbiy ·
$0.18
Debt is slavery.  Easy and cheap debt brings any future demand and asset appreciation into today, and guess who benefits?  The ones with most assets. 
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@tarazkp ·
The current conditions are making a killing for the ones who *always make a killing.* 
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