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· @tarazkp ·
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High, Low and Average
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While through the summer our electricity consumption is about a third of what it would be in the winter ( the coldest days it is 4x from summer), a recent problem with the electricity supply has meant that prices have spiked considerably. We are now on "spot prices" so that we pay whatever the hourly market rate is and while most of the summer it has been very low, that has changed significantly in the last few days.


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As you can see from this graph of price over the last 30 days:

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The problem has to do with the new nuclear plant, that despite being well over a decade late, still isn't up and running efficiently, with lots of teething problems getting in the way of regular production. No critical issues that compromise safety, more niggling things that halt the processes and take time to repair. 

This is how it looked overall yesterday:

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/tarazkp/23tkkD7Pf8YdxWQf5C9szRfnK8EtFhjMQMCsGhHgMJACvsRJmkx8ZHJUU8HoF8qQrwG49.png)


And the spot price by hour yesterday:

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The average is 10x up on the normal prices over the last 30 days, and the high is 22x up - which means that depending on when things are being done, something like using the dishwasher can be 4 cents or 88 cents. That is quite a difference. but it is the heating costs that impact the most and we are using around 40 kWh a day at the moment in total, so at the average of 30 cents, electricity was €12 yesterday. If this was the winter, that would be €60 on the colder days, and €70 on the coldest. 

Today it is down a bit.

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/tarazkp/23tkk8Cuv6JVPvBKk4gzG5yhGQN3G1CGaxYZXdH28Bi4xoHEWUSmG3fWanELB2qsMUbYj.png)

While I get that there are problems with the nuclear powerplant, this isn't the only source of energy and Finland is also able to get supply from Sweden. As this is summer, there should be an over supply of energy at the moment, so it makes no sense that the prices are this high. But, there are some kinds of restrictions on power coming from Sweden, so there is an engineered shortfall of between 500 and 1200 MW per day, which is what is propping up prices. 

You'd think with what has been happening in the last year and a half, they would have sorted these things out, but if there are these problems in the summer, it doesn't bode well for the coming winter. If the problems persist, it is going to be another expensive six months. As a result, I am looking at what kinds of fixed rate contracts there are and what kind of costs that will bring, as it might make more sense to pay a bit more now, and not have to deal with the high prices later. 

Though, I really don't think that this should be needed and I believe that there should be a change in attitude when it comes to energy prices. Ultimately, we'd want energy (if clean) to be absolutely (or close to) free, right? As that would enable innovation to happen without having to worry about energy consumption at all, which is the major constraint. We are a long way away from any kind of true clean energy, let alone it being free, but unlimited energy provides unlimited opportunity, so reigning in innovation through energy constraints is counterproductive. 

Obviously though, energy is such a massive industry in and of itself now, that the profits from peddling it are higher than what people can imagine the innovation can bring. Yet ultimately, energy itself is just a tool, and it is what that energy is used to create that has the real value, not the energy itself. It is like money in this sense - it isn't how much is made, it is what it enables that is important. 

This latest spike won't last long, as they are expecting it to be fixed in a few days and things will return to the "new normals", but still, it is a wakeup alarm for what is to come in the winter, so I will have to start looking now. The longer it is left, the more expensive the fixed contracts will get, so even though the price might be higher per kW now, we aren't consuming so much currently due to the weather, but the savings in the winter might offset it. It is a cost averaging approach.

Paying more now might mean paying more overall later, but doing nothing now might end up costing a huge amount more, but have the potential to save very little. A risk and reward mechanism. 

I am average at all of this.

Taraz
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@bozz ·
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Our electricity has been higher lately too.  I think a lot of it has to do with inflation, but I also think some of it might have to do with our dryer.  I think it isn't running as efficiently as it used to.  It's been horrible hot in the US too, so we have been running our A/C more than usual.  I know there have been setbacks, but I am a big fan of nuclear power.  I think we need to see more of it.  Some of the things they are doing with small modular nuclear reactors right now is very exciting.  
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@tarazkp ·
> I know there have been setbacks, but I am a big fan of nuclear power. I think we need to see more of it. 

I like the idea of these small scale reactors that can provide at more local levels quickly, and relatively cheaply. The plan is for more of them to be built around the world. 
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@bozz ·
I've been following a company called Nuscale for a while now. I even bought some stock in them when they went public.  They have a design that is virtually meltdown proof. Supposedly anyway!
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@devpress ·
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I have started making use of the solar batteries. And it does work for me. I can tell you from my experience that some of the solar battery specific charging works for mobile and other outside devices. Except laptops which needs a lot of power. I hope a lot of us can harness some sort of the wind energy and some winter times snow energy too but what do I know in energy space. Hoping in future we have some ways.
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@tarazkp ·
It isn't snow energy here, but there are some cooling pools in old mines that are similar. 
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@ducecrypto ·
Insuring against a spike seems like a worthwhile thing to do. I can't even tell you the last time I looked at our energy bill. My partner has it on autopay for our 3-bedroom apartment that we share with one other roommate, and I pay a fixed rate to her for the monthly rent that includes all utilities.
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@emma-h2 ·
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Gosh, that is simply insane! It's like watching the fucking crypto market - only for energy. What I can't understand is how if this has been on the cards for over a year, why is it not changing at all? How are people going to be able to deal with that kind of range of prices? 
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@tarazkp ·
The last few months have been pretty good, but the draw on electricity in the summer is very low, so that is to be expected. But, if it keeps up like this, I am not sure what people will do in the winter. Freeze most likely. 
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@fieryfootprints ·
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>so at the average of 30 cents, electricity was €12 yesterday. If this was the winter, that would be €60 on the colder days, and €70 on the coldest.

Now I no longer feel so bad that our electricity bill for this month will exceed 30 eur.
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@tarazkp ·
30 euros would make me very happy!
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@fieryfootprints ·
you can always move to Lithuania.
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@ghua ·
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the prices recently went crazy - in UK situation got so bad that govt had to step in and help citizens to pay their bills.
I used to pay 70-80£ per month for gas and electricity, now it is 130£.
And please dont think that we live some kind of lavish lifestyle, bathing in lighting and heat - no, we are actually trying to save as much as we can :)
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@tarazkp ·
>I used to pay 70-80£ per month for gas and electricity, now it is 130£.

Our highest in the winter was around €1400... crazy.
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@ghua ·
Have I read it correctly? 1400 (two zeros)?
you ARE bathing in energy hahahaha
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@itwithsm ·
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It seems to me the situation currently we are facing in PAKISTAN, The electricity rate per unit has risen from 15 RS to 50 RS if you are using units above 600. It's almost a 400% rise, but sadly we can't do anything about it. we are destroyed as a nation. I paid 35000 PKR worth of bill last month, I was almost 3 times the bill i paid in the last July. 
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@tarazkp ·
How are people managing?
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@jfang003 ·
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The prices have been higher as well and I have been trying to reduce it where I can. It's a bit unfortunate but most of my computers have to stay online for work. I try to cut back on the A/C when it's not needed and it's been a bit cool lately.
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@tarazkp ·
We don't have AC here, but the winter is a killer. I am not sure where you are, but talking with some colleagues from Texas and Phoenix and they have said it has been crazy hot. 
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@krazzytrukker ·
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We are Looking at Solar like your bro has  now that roof has just been replaced.

Is that an option for you.?

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@tarazkp ·
It is an option, but we need to replace the roof too. Super, super expensive. I am hoping that at some point, the "full solar roof" will be more affordable. It is also only really useful for about 6 months of the year, but if combined with a battery and an electric car, it is worth it. 
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@rafzat ·
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The price of electricity has been very crazy and I don't want to talk about it.  We are paying too much for electricity and it is very sad
Now, electricity is expensive and fuel is also expensive
It is crazy!
There is recession!!!
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@tarazkp ·
There is no recession for the energy suppliers.
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@shortsegments ·
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Our electricity is the highest in our country. Ironically we have an abundance of volcanos, but it is seen as bad to tap into them, so in a island chain of 100 volcanoes, only one small geothermal plant. No answers only rants.
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@tarazkp ·
You'd think they would be building all they can to meet needs.
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@shortsegments ·
Exactly.

But people are basically irrational it seems. 

The opponents of geothermal think that utilizing the various forms of heat given off by a volcano to heat water and run turbines that produce electricity without fossil fuels might hurt the earth. All attempts to explain that the heat is being released anyway and if we don't use it, it is wasted, seem to fall on death ears. 

Then there are those who believe volcanos are ancient dieties. 
I am at a lost as to where to start a conversation with those folks.
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@urrirru ·
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>so at the average of 30 cents, electricity was €12 yesterday. If this was the winter, that would be €60 on the colder days, and €70 on the coldest.

This is huge money. I paid for a month (200 kilowatts) only 12 euros.

It is interesting to look at the map of bitcoin mining by country (where it is profitable). Finland is one of the first places in the world in terms of the cost of electricity.

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@tarazkp ·
No surprise that the costs are high here. What is also interesting is comparing prices doesn't look at the relative salaries. Finland is relatively bad on that too. However, it is safe, clean and there is a half decent level of social services. 
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@valggav ·
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Innovations that do not bring profit do not attract many people. what Nicola Tesla could do if he had support. And x other dreamers like him.
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@tarazkp ·
Maybe. If he lived today, he might just be spending his time watching Netflix :)
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@videoaddiction · (edited)
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I pay €7 or €8 per month and I think it will be €10-€15 in the winter. Minimum salary is €370, but minimum house rent is €400.
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@tarazkp ·
>Minimum salary is €370, but minimum house rent is €400.

What are people doing??
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@videoaddiction ·
So called living.
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