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· @tarazkp · (edited)
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We all have bad days from time to time, days when we are overly emotional and aren't performing at our best. It could be because of stress at work or some other personal issue that we are facing, perhaps alone, but does that give us some kind of entitlement to behave badly and to treat others poorly? I think that often, the triggers that set off the response, are a symptom of some underlying issues, not the cause themselves and under different circumstances, the same trigger would be ineffectual. 

In some ways, stress is a bit like being drunk, the barriers that restrict our behaviors come down and we are less resilient to influences, so we react in ways we might not otherwise. This doesn't mean there is any "correct" in the reaction however, emotional reasoning doesn't inform right or wrong on a subject, even though it might be used to justify and excuse behavior.


![image.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmR7ZHPAKbR424rH48Fon9oKY9KcuT4fYuc2bcz4tmJtvw/image.png)

I have been around a fair bit over the years and have been involved directly, or in the peripheries of drama of various kinds from time to time. Pretty much, the largest cause of drama is around getting downvoted, as people see it as a loss of income, without understanding that it isn't theirs until it is in the wallet. In this regard, what people need to come to terms with is that Hive is about ownership and the rewards on a post are still in the pool and haven't even been printed yet, they are owned by no one. It is only once those rewards are paid and it goes directly into a wallet, that they become property of an account. 

This seems like semantics, but it is not, it is fundamental to the understanding of the ownership model. Most people know the saying of, "not your keys, not your crypto" and this is similar. Ownership of Hive gives directive power over the value and an account holder has the right as owner to do what they please with the Hive in their wallet - they can power it up, they can gamble it away, they can sell it how they please. 

But, the potential rewards on a post are just that, potential. They have the potential to be owned by the posting account, but they also have the potential to be returned to the pool for distribution to other posts. The deciding factor in which direction the potential takes and at what value is the stake upvoting, downvoting, unvoting and the negotiation goes on until the close of the post, when the decisions are finalized and it is allocated to an account or not.

By the way, when people talk about "income" they also have to understand what that is - it isn't "incoming", it is already received. If looking at a salary, this is the money that is already deposited into the bank from an employer, not what is owed. Income outstanding is what is owed and there is *no guarantee* it will ever be paid. 

>in•come ĭn′kŭm″►
n.	The amount of money or its equivalent received during a period of time in exchange for labor or services, from the sale of goods or property, or as profit from financial investments. 

What I have always found interesting is how fast people get fired-up over getting downvoted and I find it even stranger when people who have been around awhile get upset, going from 0-crazy faster than the new generation Tesla. While I know that there can be a visceral reaction to downvotes, as it is seen as criticism of content or process, I don't think going on the attack is the right approach, but that is just me. 

Part of the reaction is because often, people tend to narrow what Hive is to their own definition of what Hive is - sometimes it depends on what they got downvoted on, sometimes on just their global view of Hive, where some see it as a blogging site, some as an investment vehicle, some as a social media to interact with like minds, as well as other aspects and blends of each. For example, nothing stops a person who sees the platform as a way to farm value using their stake, but nothing stops other staked using blocking the move with downvotes. 

while there is no real easy answer for this, I am kind of glad there isn't, because it means there is some complexity in the market place and the economy of stake and voting value. What I do think people need to remember is that this is a platform of people, not a platform of algorithms. This means that there are all kinds of backgrounds and behaviors, many of which are going to clash with each other socially and ideologically on what is right and wrong, whether it be Hive related or not. 

While not everyone likes the drama that is caused, drama is not actually necessary, or at least, it can be lively discussion rather than a bitter fight. We are all learning and while you might think you know it all, that knowing might be dependent on your narrow view and conflict with the view of others. As said, it is hard for at least some people to get a good sense of what is "right and wrong" here as there are so many potential paths - but that is the same in any complex society, especially one that has an economy attached to activity. 

It is because of this diversity of activity that things work differently to Instagram or Twitter, Medium or Patreon and all kinds of things are treated differently, whether what defines quality or what is considered plagiarism. Because of the potential to directly earn - standards are affected. In the future some of this confusion is able to be reduced through the use of owned communities and second-layer tokenization, but for now, much of the activity happens on the main token at the infrastructure level, which means there are more people interested in a higher diversity of ways and, there is more *at stake* as it is the core token that underpins the layers above. 

Anyway, these are just some on-the-fly thoughts that arose with some points to think about for some people. I think everyone should do what they can in order to learn about the platform and what it means to them, but not get too attached to their thoughts because the community is dynamic and always changing. What I do believe and the reason I take my own journey here quite seriously from a content perspective and also as an investment, is that there is a massive amount of value in us continually pushing the boundaries of what it means to invest, what it means to be a digital community, what it means to be a social media and what it means to build an economy based on our daily activity. But, while where we are headed is into serious business, we should also not take it all too seriously.

While the Hive might not be yours until in the wallet, your experience is yours to own, always.

Taraz
[ Gen1: Hive ]



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@abh12345 ·
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Quite recently your account was targeted for weeks with some fairly hefty downvotes.  Do many people know about this?  No, why? Because you just got on with it.

Enjoy the price action, I hope it sorts that house out this year :)
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@azircon ·
Who DV,Ed Taraz? Who? Who? :)


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@abh12345 ·
You are in full force with memes at present!  I will drop you a note...
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@tarazkp ·
At the most, complain off chain - whine and bitch to friends. On chain, stay composed. 

PRetty exciting times and I believe this is the start of the next 10 months. 

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@abh12345 ·
10 months of mad gainz? Sign me up :)
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@bashadow ·
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The diversity of Hive is something I find very attractive, and a very good reason for being on Hive Block Chain. it is indeed all the things you mentioned, and the future is not set in any manner what-so-ever on hive Block Chain. Who knows one day we may become a Digital Nation, we are doing pretty good at tuning into a real community with banks and entertainment locales, even some tries at stores, so we are growing, and we definitely have a diversity of uses and people.
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@tarazkp ·
Digital nations are going to be come things for sure :D
Nations tied by blockchains, not borders.
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@bashadow ·
We have a pretty diverse group of people from a lot of different nations, I think we have all the continents covered, not sure about Antarctica.
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@bozz ·
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What gets me is when people get downvoted and they take it as a personal attack.  I have been accused of racism in the past simply because I downvoted a post that used a tag which had nothing to do with the content of the post.  I have tried to learn over the years just to let that stuff slide. For the most part the times I do get downvoted, it is a fairly insignificant amount.  I guess the good thing about Hive is that you can always make more (potentially).

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@abh12345 · (edited)
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I downvoted an (ex?) sports ref the other day for posting a finance post in the creativecoin community.  My alt has 100 HP and probably took 0.01$ off the post in CCC tokens.  The conversation that followed on discord made me feel like I'd stolen a million pounds from them.  Embarrassing!
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@azircon ·
Give me the name and number and I will show the dude what DV is :)
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@bozz ·
Ah yes, I remember those days!  I think I know what you are talking about.  I saw an apology post in one of my feeds the other day.  This is a living for some people, but still, just use your head! 

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@amirl ·
Did you try to comment before downvoting? Its more effective in my opinion
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@bozz ·
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No, it was a clear money grab and it was my job as moderator to keep people from abusing the system.

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@tarazkp ·
People fall back on all kinds of protections and accusations to support themselves. One of the techniques I find interesting is when they use off-chain information as if it is proof of qualification or something - this is a trustless blockchain, I don't trust many people :D

>. For the most part the times I do get downvoted, it is a fairly insignificant amount. I guess the good thing about Hive is that you can always make more (potentially).

I have taken some pretty big hitters over prolonged periods of time, but eventually, they all move on. I have never understood why some people enjoy downvoting so much, but it is necessary from time to time. 

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@bozz ·
Yeah, those were the bad ones when they would get their "friends" involved and talk about how you were making people not want to invest in the blockchain.  If you are just going to abuse it, heck yeah I don't want you around here!

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@mattclarke ·
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Think of it like a judging panel.
https://keyassets-p2.timeincuk.net/wp/prod/wp-content/uploads/sites/42/2018/01/jason-and-ice-panel-scoring-1-630x400.jpg
Some judges deliver their score immediately, others take several days. 
Your result is actually the average of their scores (stake weighted).
So a high average early is nice, but if harsher judges vote later, bringing down that average, so be it. 
I could see a post at $1 and give it an upvote; but if I saw the same post at $50, I'd give it a downvote. 
They're not upvoting or downvoting the post. They're weighing the value of the post against its current payout.
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@tarazkp ·
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This is a great way to look at it too. I also think (and while many won't agree) that some people don't deserve earnings on their posts based on their past behaviors.<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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@meesterboom ·
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It's the easy that people can go from zero to nuts in little seconds. Can be entertaining to watch but after you have seen the same drama countless times it does get a bit repetitive.

There are some right dicks in life!
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@tarazkp ·
It does get repetitive if been here a while, but I guess for each account that gets into it, it feels like it is all new drama :)

The first rule is: *Don't be a dick.*
Many fail.

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