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Community On Full Display At Hivefest
When asked what separates Hive from other [ecosystems](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-ecosystem-digital), many respond with one word; community.

This might sound like something that gets over done.  However, it appears in this case it is valid,  In fact, this weekend it was on display.

As the one who was "running" the virtual session, this was evident in a few different ways.

Let us dig in and see what we have here.

  https://i.imgur.com/yC8CHpO.png  
## Hivefest

The people are Hivefest itself were pretty much the who's who of Hive.  We had some major [developers](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-developer), project leaders, and large [HP](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-hive-power-hp) holders.  There were a number of Top 20 [witnesses](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-witness-hive) there, many who presented.

This could be viewed as a circle-jerk where they were all there, spending [money](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-money), and telling each other how great they are.  In reality, we saw some presentations detailing plans that seek to move Hive to a much higher level.  While this is outside the scope of this article, it is impressive what some are working on.

One of the keys is talent.  Whether it is coding, marketing, or [business](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-business) building, there was a lot on display.  This is likely to come from any group that is involved in something for so long.  

After all, an Ethereum gathering would likely have similar talent albeit with much greater numbers.

What makes this different is the fact that we are small in number.  The contribution of each person is multiplied when dealing with a close-knit community that comes to depend upon each other.

We were show the level that some of the people behind our favorite projects (or the base coding itself) are operating from.

## Virtual Community

Here we see another situation where the numbers are relatively small compared to the rest of the [digital](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-digital) world.  However, we see how dedication and interest shine through.

We did roughly 12 hours of X Spaces.  This was a grind for all involved.

What stood out is the number of people who showed up for each broadcast.  This is multiplied when consider the time zone difference.  We were conducting post-Hivefest sessions at the end of each day.  For many, this was the middle of the night.

On Hive, we often discuss communities such as Venezuela, Ghana, Nigeria and Cuba.  These are epicenters for what we are creating since it provides them with near immediate solutions.

These countries are facing tough economic situations.  Hive is a lifeline for them, allowing them to earn immediately and start to acquire some basic necessities.

It is one thing to talk about this, it is another to see it on display.

The Spaces and [Threadcasts](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-threadcast) were full of people from these nations.  No matter what the hour, they were up, trying to learn and find out all they could.  Many saw their excitement level for Hive grow as a result of what was presented.

It is easy to overlook people who are tuning in remotely for events like this.  However, with Hive, it is a different situation when you consider the potential.

## We Are Creating The Future

When we look at Web3, we have to realize that each of us is helping to forge the paths forward.  There is no system in place for the attainment.  We are the ones developing it.

This means we are designing the future when it comes to Web3.  For those who believe in the potential it offers, this is enormous.

Of course, those presenting on stage are a major piece to the puzzle.  However, they are not the only ones. 

It is a process that is going to take the efforts of thousands of dedicated people.  We require projects to spread their tentacles wide.  This requires hundreds of people supporting them, and discussing it with others.

While the coding is providing much needed [infrastructure](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-infrastructure-computer), we can turn around and start to enhance the results through utility.  Each layer is in need of people.

Here is where those following along are crucial.  Collectively is how this is formed.  It does no good for a developer to bring something out if it is ignored or not utilized.

## No Clear Message

One of the point brought up is that Hive does not have a singular message.  What was evident from the stage is the opportunities within this ecosystem are expanding.  It is safe to say we no longer appeal only to [content creators](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-content-creator).

While this is viewed as a negative, to me, it says we are doing it right.  This is what decentralization is all about,  When people build infrastructure that other use, it becomes something that takes on a life of its own.  This is how complex systems form.

They are not planned.  At the same time, their intention cannot be summarized or captured.

Instead, we are dealing with each aspect expanding according to its own nature.  This is not often in congruence with the direction of something else although they all do serve their role and contribute to the whole.

Once again we see where the community, especially those spread throughout the world, enter.  They are the ones who are going to carry with them what is important.  These are also the people who will share their results with others.

## On Chain Activity

Most other ecosystems have to take to traditional [social media](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-social-media) to engage.  While this can be effective, we know the most common discussion is how great the [coin](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-coins) or token is and that it will moon.

With Hive, we are engaging on the ecosystem we are talking about.  The discussion is rarely about the [price](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-price).  Instead, many revolve around setting up infrastructure, [commerce](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-commerce), [finance](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-finance), or marketing.  

In other words, there is a business aspect to this that is not present in other communities discussion.  While the principal participants will carry this on, few outside of it.

Yet, on Hive, we have many people outside the project team discussing (and presenting ideas about) the rebrand. 

Do we see that happening elsewhere?

Not to the same degree.

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[What is Hive](https://leofinance.io/@leoglossary/leoglossary-what-is-hive)



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@anhleo ·
Nice
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@beerbod ·
Haven’t finished watching all the presentations yet. But so far the ones i watched from day 2 beings out a lot of excitement. And yeah it is difficult for a community as big as us to have a singular message. And members are from all wks of life having different interests and coming from diverse backgrounds. Im sure someone will come up with an all encompassing message. We have plenty of bright minds here.
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@bitcoinflood ·
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dApps built on hive that are niche specific is where the real growth is going to happen. It's far easier to niche down what someone is interested in instead of being so general so I fully agree with the next moves in marketing and it's one of the things I've been screaming myself for a long time.

A very small percentage of the world wants to write a 500 word article every day and of that most are lucky if they make a few pennies from it. Not the greatest method of growth for sure.

I think there are a lot of cool things happening though and each has its strong points.

3speak is solely focused on decentralization above anything else and they are doing a good job at getting there. The issue is it lacks other development outside of this at least for the moment.

Leo is more focused on marketing and growth.

While all other development works feels very dev heavy and not front facing. So I almost feel like hive fest should focus on one or two major things.

The first being a possible hackathon with rewards in which new dApps would be started up and launched.

The second being applications that exist to showcase and launch something big and new on their platform for the event to bring up the hype level. 

Overall though it was a good event. It honestly reminds me of start up events I've been to and managed for companies over my life. Where they are just getting started but the possibility for growth is massive if they start hitting the right moves. That's going to be very hard in a decentralized system but hopefully we can pull it off.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
That is all true and good ideas.

However, infrastructure is required for applications to truly be successful.  Right now, without smart contracts, we are rather limited.
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@bitcoinflood ·
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Is this something our core devs are working on? To be fair I never really understand half the stuff they are talking about and what the goal of it is.
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@jacobpeacock ·
I think what came across most to me from watching all three of the live streams... is the authenticity of the folks involved 'making HiveFest happen' and the vibrancy of the community that we all have the same opportunity to be a representative of... just some of us choose to do it 'on their own dime' and have the courage to put themselves front and center... not just before the community, nor the camera but in front of the world... in real time... simply sharing the things they are passionate about.
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@jakiro12 ·
like you said the biggest difference is the community, when i wanna attract more people to hive i used the same word, "HIVE IT IS AN AWESOME COMMUNITY"; you can post about everything and earn free cryptos without pay for it :D
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@joanstewart ·
Thanks for informative update, normally try to link into the YouTube channel to follow, this year has been tedious with not having electricity supply more so than previous years. I will pop over to see more.

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@redonkulas ·
I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts on Hivefest and the Hive community. It's wonderful that you found the event so inspiring and full of talented people. Your enthusiasm really shines through!

That said, I can't help but feel like some of your conclusions might be a bit premature or overstated. For example, you claim that Hivefest attendees represent the "who's who" of Hive. But with such a small sample size of attendees, can we really make sweeping judgments about the caliber of talent in the whole Hive ecosystem?

And when you describe the group as a "circle-jerk" telling each other how great they are, I sense a hint of cynicism. While it's natural for like-minded people to want to celebrate each other's achievements, painting it negatively seems unproductive.

The sections on virtual community and creating the future also struck me as overly idealistic. I admire your belief in Hive's potential, but implying it will singlehandedly lift people out of poverty or shape the future of web3 feels hyperbolic. Most successful communities are built gradually through real utility, not grand pronouncements.

Lastly, I'm puzzled by your argument that Hive's "lack of a singular message" is a good thing. Most thriving platforms have a crisp, focused value proposition underpinning them. Decentralization doesn't preclude having coherence - if anything, it requires more of it to align stakeholders. Claiming incoherence is somehow a sign of doing things "right" feels more like rationalization than vision.

In closing, I appreciate you sharing an insider's view of Hivefest. But as an outsider looking in, I'd recommend being more measured in your claims. No community is perfect, and even well-intentioned boosterism can cross into overpromising. The true measure of Hive will be in execution and results over time, not rhetoric. The potential is exciting, but let's not get ahead of ourselves!

I hope these thoughts come across constructively. You clearly care a lot about Hive's future, as we all should. But a dose of realism and critical thinking will serve the community better than unchecked enthusiasm in the long run.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
>That said, I can't help but feel like some of your conclusions might be a bit premature or overstated..

They certainly are premature considering they havent happened yet.  When that happens, it is blatant to the masses and a foregone conclusion to the masses, no effort or analysis is required.  It is far easier to summarize where we are at (although most struggle with that) as compared to where we are going.

>For example, you claim that Hivefest attendees represent the "who's who" of Hive. But with such a small sample size of attendees, can we really make sweeping judgments about the caliber of talent in the whole Hive ecosystem?

Sure.  It was not relative to the talent elsewhere.  I didnt claim this is the who's who of the world of developer or even blockchain.  

>While it's natural for like-minded people to want to celebrate each other's achievements, painting it negatively seems unproductive.

It certainly is reason to celebrate although many do not take it to be that way..  But then, my conclusion is that the entire event was more than a congratulation or celebration of what was done.

>I admire your belief in Hive's potential, but implying it will singlehandedly lift people out of poverty or shape the future of web3 feels hyperbolic. Most successful communities are built gradually through real utility, not grand pronouncements.

I agree utility is where change comes from.  These are not grand proclamations based upon a bunch of people tuning into an event.  I always work from the ground up, meaning the architecture we are dealing with.  When we compare that to what else is out there, along with the distribution model, Hive is already ahead of others.

Does it mean we are done?  No there is a lot of work to do.  The advantage to Hive is what you said, communities.  We have pockets forming both in the digital and physical world where utility is starting to be provided.

>Lastly, I'm puzzled by your argument that Hive's "lack of a singular message" is a good thing.

This stems from the fact we are dealing with a complex organic system.  I agree totally that platforms should have a concise message.  This is the application level.

What is the message of the forest?  It depends.  This will be different for birds, bushes, and bears.  What is the message of Hive?  That is going to vary.  The target market is wide.  Is it gamers?  Could be.  Are we after freedom lovers?  Certainly.  Are we seeking a new financial system and looking for people who know about that?  Without a doubt.  How about content creators?  A given.  

You get the point.   This all comes back to what Hive is.  Essentially, my view is that at the most fundamental level, it is a decentralized database that can house text natively.  That is what we are dealing with.  All else stems from there.

Who does that cater to?  A lot of variables in that one.  It shows we are doing decentralization right in that we cannot narrow everything down to a single message.  It is also why I believe the marketing of Hive is simply chasing our tails.   It is the projects that are build which have target markets and a message to deliver to their potential users/audience that will attract people.

>I hope these thoughts come across constructively.

I always enjoy feedback.  It is good to converse about what is going on and how the world is unfolding especially in these times.

By the way, good topics on your Youtube videos.



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@rikardonaranjo ·
Muy buen post!!!!
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@theguruasia ·
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@thorkellnft ·
Without a doubt, I don't think there is another community around any project that is as involved and supportive as Hive's. The Hivefest threadcasts have been a crazy amount of people participating, and as many times it coincided with the midnight and early morning hours of many users, they also coincided with the electrical blackouts and lack of internet connection in Cuba and Venezuela, which which meant that the participation was not even greater. Without a doubt Hive is growing and doing so in the right direction and although we are small (for now) compared to others, the support of its community is just as great as that of many.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
I am very impressed with those communities.  It was great to see the turnout.  Now we have to follow it up with more activity.

Perhaps I have an idea for you that you can help with me.  I am going to work on it this week.
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@thorkellnft ·
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It's really great to see the participation. It would be a good idea to do a space once a week to maintain the level of interest among the community. I am available to help you with that task, whenever you like.
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@toluwanispecial ·
It is good to learn that the hivefest went well. I knew that the hivefest would house many prominent of the hive ecosytem. It is fantastic to know that it wasn't just about meeting and having fun alone, but the potential and development that might come in as a results. It will be good people coming up with different ideas and project. 

Survival in the world today is becoming unbearable particularly for people in the developing nations. The economy crises have caused a lot hardship. If people can leverage on this ecosystem i believe the future is bright.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
Some great things happening.  It is time to get really excited. 

We might be in a different position a year from now.  We are getting a lot closer.
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@uyobong ·
Indeed, it was an amazing time engaging with all Hivers on Threadcast while the conference lasted. I see big numbers in engagement profiled for Hive via Threadcast.
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@wiseagent ·
Looks like the players are playing this game really hard, haha!

Go, hivers!
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