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The Hive Network-State: Pockets Taking Over
This is something that is truly fascinating.  The power of a decentralized digital [network](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-network) that operates as an [economy](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-economy) is completely transformative.  It is also the basis of the idea of the [network-state](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-network-state).

What if we took something like Hive and grew it into tens of millions of people around the world?  This is nothing new.  [Digital](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-digital) networks do this all the time.

Where this gets interesting is what if a couple hundred thousand of these people were in the same geographic area?  How does that change the equation?

All of this is stuff to ponder.  [Web 3.0](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-web-3-0) introduces a paradigm that not only can alter the online world, this can be transformed into our physical realm.

Could this morph into real world integration where it becomes the standard for a geographic area?

That is what we will take a look at in this article.


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## Chicken Or The Egg

Here is where we find the first quandary.

Which comes first, online success that is moved into the realm world or the reverse?  By this, do we see people who are in a geographic area start to adopt Hive and utilize what it offers.  This is something we are starting to see in areas such as Sucre, Venezuela.

Or do we have the reverse where a group of people from Hive decide to relocate to an area.  By doing this, they become a significant portion of the local population, exerting more influence over time.

Naturally, the best solution is where both approaches are utilized.  Of course, this means that we have this happening organically since no central planning is involved, at least to start.

Instead, we have pockets forming in different area, each furthering the cause of the entire ecosystem.

## Decentralized Financial Network

Consider the possibilities of [decentralized finance (DeFi)](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-decentralized-finance-defi).  This is something often discussed but not in the context of real world use cases.

We often discuss the idea of Hive [assets](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-asset), i.e. [Hive bonds](https://leofinance.io/posts/@taskmaster4450/hive-bonds-the-collateral-the-world-needs), as an instrument of collateralization.  This is often tied to the financial [markets](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-market) and framed in context of the global financial system.

However, what if we take this idea to a more local level.  We will use Sucre as the example.  Here we have a geographic region that operates like any other.  The components of the local economy will be similar to most.  One thing that is required is a place to live.  After all, no matter where we are in the world, shelter is required.

For most, [real estate](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-real-estate) acquisition is done through the banking system, getting a [loan](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-loans) in the form of a mortgage.  Here is the property is used as [collateral](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-collateral) for the [money](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-money) to acquire it.  

Let us change the scenario up and turn it into Web 3.0.  

For Sucre, we remove the idea of [mortgages](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-mortgage) as the way local property is financed.  Instead, we make switch this to DeFi.  Imagine the ability to take [digital assets](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-digital-assets) and, through a [layer 2](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-layer-2) smart contract, use that as collateral for the loan.  Hence, the purchase of property is financed through the ownership of online [assets](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-asset).

What if this becomes the standard in the geographic region?  Instead of using the traditional finance ([TradFi](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-tradfi)) model, we develop a Hive based one.

This is what a decentralized financial network can offer.  The ability to penetrate the realm world is possible.

## Local Governance

The one challenge with concepts like this is they often clash with local laws.  We have a long history of how things are done, with powerful players protecting their vested interests.

For this reason, local [governance](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-governance) is required. Here is where the numbers enter.

We see how [cryptocurrency](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/cryptocurrency) is already entering the political discussion.  This makes sense since the focus is on the monetary aspect of things.  Therefore, most are going to have an opinion, even if ill-informed.

What is interesting is the network-state is a lot more than just money.  It is incorporating a completely new model for society.  We see the merging between the physical and digital world.  This makes the existing governance system obsolete.

It is also a grassroots, ground up approach.  We are not taking isolated aspects to focus upon.  This concept is meant to penetrate every area of life.  It is the basis upon which a community (or society) can be built.

That means changing the laws to something different.  Here we have the likely path of having to deal with the existing [government](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-government), until it can be changed.  It is why smaller regions could be the epicenter, at least in the early stages.

## Why Hive?

Hive already offers communities.  People are able to set them up online fairly easily.  Of course, this is a long way from geographic domination.

However, the [social media](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-social-media) aspect of Hive is something we do not see tied to [blockchains](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/blockchain), at least so far.  Then we have to consider the idea of a [base layer](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-base-layer-blockchain) [stablecoin](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-stablecoin).  If we think about different pockets growing globally, the fact that all could share a coin means the network effect is enhances as these communities grow.  It is all tied into the same system.

Then we have the ability to develop smart contracts.  This is important for [scalability](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-scability-scaling).  We have a point to consider: if [smart contracts](https://leofinance.io/posts/@leoglossary/leoglossary-smart-contract) are indeed going to take over, there will be hundreds of millions of them required (or billions).  This is something that is going to require scaling.

And this is the point where some networks run into issues.

Ultimately, all these pockets will grow.  We only see a couple forming around the world.  At the same time, we see the digital activity and development taking place.  

All of this could end up merging as things morph.  The idea of the network-state is not as crazy as people think.


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Hive is surely powerful beyond what most citizens feels. I'm new to hive but I'm having confidence with how hive is working and achieving all their goals in a few years. In short future time, hive will be geographical per say because what will be the rewards of citizens who trust hive expert and development will be beneficial and surprising.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
There are people in many areas that are starting to embrace it.  Nigeria and VZ are countries that seem to be popular on Hive.  It is great to see because an impact can be brought about quickly since the economic situation is brutal.

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SerΓ­a excelente que hay llegarΓ‘ a mΓ‘s personas crecerΓ‘ exponencialmente y llegarΓ­a muy lejos se que llegarΓ‘.
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Liberland comes to mind ...

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@freecompliments ·
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We already have tremendous systems that are the basis of our daily function, both in geographic regions as well as companies/corporations that contribute to local and larger economies. It's certainly far from unfeasible that a network-state that utilizes Web 3.0 technology will come into fruition over time. Thanks as always for the insights. 😊
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@taskmaster4450le ·
A long way to go obviously and nowhere near a certainty.  However, with more development, then we have a situation that is foreseeable in terms of the potential.  It is a massive transformation.  The existing system was in place for centuries.  It will take a lot to replace it.

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@infinity0 ·
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I'm new on Hive, so I'm trying to do my best :)
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Find an active community that you love ... show love by commenting on the posts you love, and getting to know the people ... and then add to the quality content in that community. Check out Hive Learners and The Terminal community for more tips -- and keep doing your best!
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@infinity0 ·
Thank you for all the tips :)
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@taskmaster4450le ·
Good to see you getting involved.

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@infinity0 ·
Trying... πŸ˜€
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@jude9 ·
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That is so wonderful beyond understanding, HIVE is gaining grounds in areas that we didn't believe it would reach. For sure, people in small groups geographically are forming larger groups. What this tells me is that, gradually these small groups would form masses of groups in near future. That's nature of networking and Decentralization. As we progress, people would be announcing how effective and reliable Hive Blockchain is. I am so excited that Web3 is also taking shape. By the that it become easy and fully function we would enjoy the feel of it.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
That is what decentralization does.  There can be pockets form in Ghana, Cuba, Nigeria, and Venezuela (or anywhere) where people are getting together around Hive.  Then you have the digital realm where communities can get together, either based upon real world or not, to interact.  With the coins we have, there is monetization available and the way for communities to create economies.  This can translate into real world interaction when people are in the same geographic area.

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@muratkbesiroglu ·
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For now, citizens of low-income and high-inflation countries show interest in Hive. India, Venezuela, Nigeria and TΓΌrkiye are examples that come to mind. The bear market's reduction in coin valuations is also a factor in this case. Over time, as the value created on the Hive increases, Hive can also appeal to the citizens of middle and upper income countries.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
That is true.  Of course, Hive also has HBD, which is a great coin for those not looking to speculate.

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@sinistry ·
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I don't think Network States are a crazy idea at all.  Seems like a natural evolution, both in the tech, as well as government.
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@taskmaster4450le ·
Well it is a radical idea.  And a massive undertaking. 

However, this could be the direction we head with things.  We already have them, to a degree, with the likes of Facebook.  That said, few who care about freedom want to be beholden to Zuckerberg (or Musk).

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@steevc ·
I think we will definitely see more 'pockets' of Hive. I started a little one around my area, but it is tiny for now. If they can reach critical mass then then can start enabling a local economy. We will also see them around interests that are not related to geography. Word of mouth is our best marketing for now.
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@treefrognada ·
Interesting questions!

I only know of a few people in Sweden who are on Hive, there are probably some more that I have never heard of. I don't think they are offering any products or services I'm interested in buying, and probably the same goes in reverse. But, IF there was a restaurant I could go eat and pay with Hive, I'd go there more often than to another place, even if the food wasn't quite as good. Because Hive. IF I could rent a car for a weekend using Hive, I'd pay a tiny bit more, because it's Hive. And so on.
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@wallay ·
Thank you so much for the information.
I really found it informative.
Thank you for sharing sir
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@wrestlingdesires ·
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It would be incredible to be able to get a loan for property using crypto as collateral... 

As for the laws? For those who seriously want to make crypto a way of life, either being in or moving to a crypto friendly country is the only way at the moment. At least until some whales get together and buy a massive chunk of real estate.


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@taskmaster4450le ·
Or until areas such as Sucre has enough people involved in Hive that makes it a true network state where the local government is taken over by the Hiveans.  This is how it spreads.

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@wrestlingdesires ·
Very true :) ...
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@yashjain ·
Amazing blog @taskmaster
Check out my new travel community Wanderlust Explorers.
You are invited to to join the community.
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