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Tutorial - How to Delegate SP to another user using the SteemConnect tool from Busy.org!
Have you ever wanted to delegate SP to one of your friends? Now you can! The SteemConnect tool from **Busy.org** lets you delegate SP to another account without needing to run a complicated API tool =)

**Before using the tool, please read through the entire post and make sure you understand how it works.** Some math is required ;)

## Step 1 - Convert the SP amount to 'VESTS':

Before you can delegate SP, you will need to convert the amount of STEEM that you want to delegate into 'VESTS'.

1. Go to https://steemd.com/ and lookup the number `steem_per_mvests`.
2. Calculate `(1,000,000 / steem_per_mvests) * amount_of_STEEM_you_want_to_delegate`.
3. Round/trim the number so you have exactly 6 digits after the decimal. Include all six numbers, even if the last one(s) are zeros.
4. Make sure you have at least that amount of SP currently in your account powered up.

As an example, the current `steem_per_mvests` is `482.923`. If you wanted to delegate 50 STEEM of SP to a friend, it would be `(1,000,000 / 482.923) * 50` = `103536.174504`.

# Step 2 - Plug the values into the SteemConnect URL
You will need to plug in 3 pieces of information into the URL:
`https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=youraccount&delegatee=theiraccount&vesting_shares=N.NNNNNN%20VESTS`
1. Plug in your account name in place of `youraccount`.
2. Plug in the account name of the person you want to delegate to in place of `theiraccount`.
3. Plug in the amount of vests you calculated in the previous step in place of `N.NNNNNN`.

Using the example above, if I ( @timcliff ) wanted to delegate 50 SP to my spouse ( @artist1989 ), the URL would look like this:
https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=timcliff&delegatee=artist1989&vesting_shares=103536.174504%20VESTS

# Step 3 - Delegate the SP using the URL
1. Copy the URL that you used in the previous step and paste it into your browser.
2. You should see a screen that looks something like this:
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdtrNFdDHr9T1RNuekhTqJKwMevmbPXjCJiauFc8ZHCeE/image.png)
3. Once you confirm everything look good, click on the "Continue" button.
4. You will need to use your Active key to sign the transaction (<a href="https://steemit.com/security/@timcliff/warning-to-users-using-third-party-applications-be-extremely-careful-providing-your-keys-to-anyone-or-any-site">warning</a>).
5. You should see a success message like this:
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmbwynsuwPEe9ugq6f7KcBRX2SKsoFRcRvga3fWU4wTGdk/image.png)
6. You can verify the delegated SP shows up in your friend's account by plugging their account name into `https://steemit.com/@accountname/transfers`.

# Some Extra Notes
1. If you want to delegate more or less SP to a user, just delegate the new amount to the user. It will replace the previous delegation value with whatever the new amount is. (It does not add or subtract.) To remove all delegated SP from a user,  just do a delegation of 0.000000 VESTS. After you un-delegate SP, it takes 7 days before you can use it again.
2. You cannot delegate SP that is currently in the process of powering down. You also cannot start a power down with SP that is currently delegated to someone. If you power down from the Steemit.com UI, the only option is to power down 100%. I plan to post a guide on how to power down less than 100% SP soon, so users can still power down some of their SP while part of it is delegated.
3. If you would like to learn more about how delegated SP works, check out <a href="https://steemit.com/steemit/@liberosist/a-brief-guide-to-delegating-steem-power">this post</a> from @liberosist.
4. Official support for the tool is provided by the Busy.org team. If you run into issues though, you can reply to this post and I'll do my best to help out. You can also ask for help in the #busy channel of steemit.chat.

## Thanks to everyone in the Busy.org team for providing us with this awesome tool!

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**Reminder to vote for witnesses!**

The Steem witnesses are the elected leaders of the community that power the blockchain. Everybody should learn about the Steem witnesses and vote on who they think is best. If you don't know much about witnesses or aren't sure who to vote for, you can check out this <a href="https://steemit.com/witness-category/@timcliff/witness-voting-guide">Witness Voting Guide</a>. If you think @timcliff and @busy.witness are doing a great job, please consider voting for them! You can vote for witnesses here: https://steemit.com/~witnesses
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Thanks resteem this too because interesting for more to know
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@agbaregha ·
nice post.please check my blog and upvote my posts as i also upvote yours too. Because this will help both of us.
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@aguayojoshua ·
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An honest question: How does this app/platform differentiate itself from Steem Trail or similar apps? Am I mistaken in that they serve the same purpose, but through different means?
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@timcliff ·
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They are different. With voting trails, you are progamatically setting your votes based on the votes of other users. You still keep your SP and cast the votes with your account. With delegation, you are actually loaning your SP to someone else. They get to use it as if it were their own. It is not the same as actually giving it to them because you can always undelegate it and take it back.
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@aguayojoshua ·
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I see. This is very helpful! Thanks for the clarification.
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@ales ·
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very nice. But what if

> close Error
Oops, something goes wrong!

Error code: 1 Assert Exception

Do you want to try again?
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@timcliff · (edited)
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The main things to check are:
1. Do you have the funds in your wallet to cover the fee
2. Are you entering the correct amounts 
3. Did you format the values to match _exactly_ (even the number of digits after the decimal needs to be exact)
4. Are you using the correct key (private active)

If those things don't fix it let me know.
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@coar ·
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Yes.. That was fee and 6 digits after the decimal.
Thanks for help!
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@fraenk · (edited)
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Hi @timcliff,

gotta hijack this comment-chain, as I am having the same issue!

> Do you have the funds in your wallet to cover the fee

I have enough vests powered up, what else do i need for a fee? I didn't read anything about fees in your OP?

amounts, format of values and key must be correct, this is the only thing I can think of!

*edit:* nevermind, I was an idiot and I figured it out myself... sorry to steal your time ;)
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@alex-icey ·
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Love the post. Thank you so much. Followed and upvoted. Have a good one :)
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@alphacore ·
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This seems like it will come in handy, now I just need to figure out a good way to bookmark stuff on steemit ^_^
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@timcliff ·
For now, just use the bookmarks/favorites in your browser.
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@arcange ·
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You have been mentionned in my hit-parade of 2017.06.14
Congratulations @timcliff!
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* Upvotes - Ranked 10 with 629 upvotes
* Pending payout - Ranked 4 with $ 1535,75
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@artakush ·
Daamn. Wrote a long comment on phone and accidently closed app :/ Anyhow! 

Take 2!
Yet another great post from you @axios! I am glad you jumped back to dtube! 
I know we are on the right path friend. Energy is high and I could almosy feel we are thinking alike! 

Artakush in a bush...
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@timcliff ·
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Replied to the wrong post?
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@artakush ·
Yes. This is very awkward haha. But i wanted to write a comment to you too! That it helped us solve a problem of delegating sp to our community acc @dtubedaily
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@avilsd ·
$1.25
Thank you! I'm just now finding out about this delegating stuff.. very keen to test it out!
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@baby07 ·
How this really works jow can it help user to e
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@timcliff ·
I don’t understand your question
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@bleepcoin ·
$0.13
Noted
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@brendanwenzel ·
$0.14
Legit!
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@brianphobos ·
$0.56
Are any whales interested in renting out their delegated Steem Power?  I'm interested in renting 100,000 SP
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@timcliff ·
$0.07
There as a post about it earlier today actually from @neoxian
https://steemit.com/steempower/@neoxian/neoxian-s-steempower-delegation-rental-service
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@brianphobos ·
$0.56
Thanks @timcliff  Yeah I know.  We have been negotiating in Steemit.chat.  Negotiations are going good but I want to open the market up and see if there are any other "Steem Power Lords" out there looking for rental income!
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@cerebralace ·
$0.14
Awesome tool @timcliff - thanks for sharing this! This is especially useful for explaining the concept of delegating SP to newbies and appreciating the many helpful Steemit APIs that are being developed by the community. 

I am in fact working on my own Steemit tool - Steemit Live - with several Steemians at the moment. Just created a Discord server to discuss and plan our project and have started to spread the word in my latest posts. Thanks for inspiring us @timcliff!
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@charles1 ·
$3.80
@timcliff steemit is great because of people like you taking out time to educate fellow members on how to better use the platform..learnt something via your post, thanks for sharing..following you and upvoted...keep it up
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@chuckler ·
$0.02
Hi. Thanks for the share. I have a question though, how or when will the delegated SP be "brought back" to the original owner? Thank you.
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@timcliff ·
The answer is in the post ;)
(7 days)
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@crisgojar ·
$0.14
Thanks for the post @timcliff it is very useful.
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@cyberblock ·
$0.56
Very nice tutorial, Ive been wondering how that is done. Well now I know. Thanks for the help!
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@dailysteemnews ·
$0.14
sounds great? so anyone delegating me? :D
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@davidconstantine ·
Thanks, you can check this out:

Give SP the easy way.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@davidconstantine/problem-solved-delegate-undelegate-steem-the-easy-way-for-dummies
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@davidmendel ·
$0.04
Hi @timcliff, I am trying to find this answer. I have delegated SP to a Minnow Support bot, creativebot and would like to get my SP back. I can not for​ the life of me know how much I gave and how to get it back. I have done a search of the topic and nothing. Can you please tell me how to get that done? Thanks.
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@timcliff ·
This should show you your current delegations:
https://api.steemjs.com/getVestingDelegations?account=davidmendel&from=-1&limit=100

You can undelegate by delegating 0.0 vests.
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@davidmendel ·
Thank you
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@daydreams4rock ·
$0.14
got me with that one - haha .. great info and i followed and upvoted to keep it moving up too
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@deeplove ·
$0.12
You should be explaine the benefit of delegation 
Honesty I don't understand how to work delegation if you don't mind please explain exactly .

Thank You
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@timcliff ·
Delegation allows users with SP to loan their SP to another user.
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@deveerei ·
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@dimarss ·
$0.05
Thank for helpful information @timcliff!
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@djunmul ·
$0.05
Looks like I'm a bit late finding this information. But it's okay, because I just started, so this post is very helpful for me.

thanks @timcliff

Regards
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@dropahead · (edited)
$0.62
If you are using cli_wallet JSON-RPC then fetch "info" and calculate VESTS like this:

    total_vesting_shares / total_vesting_fund_steem * desired_steem_power

<br/>Similar with steemd RPC, call get_state with an empty string as parameter:

    >>> get_state ""
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@timcliff ·
Nice tip :)
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@eliel · (edited)
$0.17
Interesting information, i upvote and resteem.😉
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@endeavor ·
$0.14
I love the creative community here at Steemit.  It is the way life is meant to be with all helping each other.  A new feature app almost every day. 
Thanks for the post timcliff!  
All the Best _Dev_ &#10024;
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@eric-boucher ·
$3.41
This is powerful! Wow, thank you so very much for informing us about this special feature, I had no clue about! this is so wicked and can't stop being impressed by the versatile of the platform and inherent potency.

All for one and one for all!   Namaste    :)
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@fabiyamada ·
$0.05
Owmh it's a shame I can't resteem this to keep in my timeline. Thanks a lot for the information :) i will keep it in my heart instead xD
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@fareed974 ·
$0.07
I don't know if I can trust this system but I want to give it a try just for sake of @timcliff because he is an honest man, I guess!
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@timcliff ·
Well, I don't run SteemConnect - but I do trust it myself and use it on a regular basis.
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@fareed974 ·
$0.08
@timcliff Can you guide me, I don't have much SP to delegate as you can see my profile reputation, I am relatively new, is there any way to promote my content?
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@firepower ·
$0.14
Thank you @timcliff for this awesome article!
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@fishmon ·
$0.05
I apreciate the work you put in this post . Is that site safe ? anyone who tried it ?
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@timcliff ·
Lots of users have used it, but I did include this warning:
https://steemit.com/security/@timcliff/warning-to-users-using-third-party-applications-be-extremely-careful-providing-your-keys-to-anyone-or-any-site
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@foways ·
$0.56
Thanks for this post!!! 😂
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@gigafart ·
$3.20
I'm definitely interested in delating SP. 

But where can I read more about 'vests'? I see that unit tossed around quite a bit...
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@happyphoenix ·
$2.32
Try to look at steemd.com
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@timcliff ·
$8.15
A "VEST" is a unit of measurement for the amount of STEEM POWER that a user has. There is always a conversion factor that goes from 'VESTS' to 'STEEM'. The amount of STEEM that you have per VEST will go up slightly over time, since the blockchain pays users interest on the STEEM that they have powered up.
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@gigafart ·
$0.15
Thanks for the detailed response!

I will keep re-reading it until it makes sense xD
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@wthomas ·
I would love to be a recipient of some of that SP, please and thank you :)
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@guest123 ·
How to check the success of my surgery? I don't see transfers
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@timcliff ·
Check steemd.com/@username
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@happyphoenix ·
$0.57
Thank you for sharing about this, I believe many steemians need this... to delegate their SP... Nice! :)
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@hdmed · (edited)
$0.05
Thankyou @timcliff , but the reverse, if we want cancel this delegation how we do. thanks again.
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@timcliff ·
To cancel, just delegate 0 to the user.
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@hdmed ·
$0.05
Very easy thanks again.
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@hokulor ·
nice
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@holgerwerner ·
$0.04
Thanks for this interesting and useful post! How can I assure how much SP I can delegate? If I use your example with 50 SP in the calculation, I would come to a result of 103068,77... but my SP is only 1,344.735 ...(+146.019) So do I not have enough SP for delegating the 50 SP? I'm confused!
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@timcliff ·
There are two ways to measure SP. One is the amount of STEEM. The other is the amount of "vests". There is a way to convert between the two, which is described in the post. Hope that helps :)
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@ico-kingdom ·
Hey Ive been trying to use the website for the last like 3 hours and its not working. I cant login to it at all I type my username and put my put in and it just doesnt do anything...
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@timcliff ·
Which website? Steemit or SteemConnect?
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@ico-kingdom · (edited)
Steemconnect, it's been awhile since I tried it maybe it's back
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@ico-kingdom ·
Just tried it again still no luck D:
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@inquiringtimes ·
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way to take the bite out of a complicated task!  that wasn't as hard as it looked with this HELPFUL guide.  you earned every cent with that!  wowza $1034  talk about adding value to the community
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@timcliff ·
Thanks! Most of the credit goes to the Busy.org team for building the tool. I just wrote the guide :)
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@izabellablue ·
$0.14
Can you wave your magic wand over my sad sally of a blog page. I think I am invisible :)
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@timcliff ·
I'll see what I can do ;)
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@izabellablue ·
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Ha LoL I have never met a real magician :)
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@unfaakinreal ·
Invisible == ghost girl, that's punny!
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@joele ·
$7.03
I think we need trading market for this SP delegation.
So there will be more demand to hold SP.
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@timcliff ·
I think a lot of users have started to form one 'unofficially' just by chatting with each other and making offers.
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@johnjgeddes ·
$2.13
a very clear exposition of how to transfer SP. Most technical explanations are not this direct. Thank you!
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@johnlue ·
$0.14
what is this really possible here. Thats great info thanks.
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@jraysteem ·
$0.14
Hi @timcliff, thank you for great idea, i have a question. It can effect my voting power? If i delegate it? Thank you.
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@timcliff ·
If you delegate SP to someone, it becomes their voting power until you take it back.
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@jraysteem ·
$0.14
thank you because i have too small voting power. Thank you again.
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@jsebastian ·
$0.14
This is very insightful! I'm new to Steemit and have watched a few tutorials which mentioned steemd.com. Would you be able to point me in the direction of any useful tutorials or posts explaining all the ins and outs of that tool? Thanks!
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@timcliff ·
$0.02
Steemd basically just shows the raw data that is posted to the blockchain. The best way to learn it would be to switch back and forth between Steemit and steemd to see how what shows up on the website gets reflected in the blockchain.
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@juansgalt ·
$0.05
Hrm, tried to use steemconnect as you layed out but got this error:

close Error
Oops, something goes wrong!

Error code: 1 Assert Exception

Do you want to try again?
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@timcliff ·
You need to have 6 STEEM (not SP) in your account for it to work.
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@justyy · (edited)
$1.04
I have made this a bit simpler: [Simple SP Delegation UI](https://helloacm.com/tools/steemit/sp-delegate-form/).  :)
The steemconnect automatically convert VESTS to SP.


![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmcu7XRoPcDmAyH3TA4hM3rPTPdLHjbD4i9HPBJqSXTh68/image.png)
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@jznsamuel ·
$4.69
Thanks for sharing this, was interested to know about SP delegation. And voted for your witness :)
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@timcliff ·
Cool, thanks.
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@kedjom-keku ·
$0.21
Thanks a lot, I have just succeeded to delegate 500 SP to our tree planter voting bot. @treeplanter
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@timcliff ·
$0.04
Cool :)
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@kenhudoy ·
$0.13
Good read...upvoted and following for more of such
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@kevinwong ·
getting an error here.. ![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmR6msEbmn73snvGdPkX8kXSxC6BPDaE9ukkiJACNyF3zW/image.png)
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@timcliff ·
$0.22
It is very picky on the syntax. Can you double check that you are using the numbers in the same format as suggested in the post? If nothing stands out, send me a screen shot of what it looks like before you submit it.
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@kevinwong ·
Ah yes, I did not include decimals earlier!
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@kingscrown ·
$0.14
And SteemINC couoldnt do it since a year.
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@timcliff ·
$0.03
I believe they helped to develop a lot of the back-end stuff that Busy.org used to put together the tool. It is a partnership. We are all on the same team ;)
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@lautenglye ·
$0.15
that's great....but who will delegate SP to me :(
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@lgfurmanczyk ·
$0.14
This is really cool. So @timcliff can you delegate some so to me?hehehe
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@marc99 ·
$2.99
Great post! What is the best account to delegate to if I want daily payouts? 

I heard that @minnowbooster has around 25% APR while @jerrybanfield rewards with 60% APR. However even jerry banfield said in his posts that there are better rewards than this.
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@timcliff ·
$3.32
I don’t really recommend using vote buying services.
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@marc99 ·
$0.51
Is it bad for steemit community?
I am looking for ways to maximize my ROI in steem. I am relatively new to steemit so any advice would be really appreciated!
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@mars9 ·
Is it possible to work Link ready for this my account?
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@timcliff ·
Sorry, not sure what you are asking.
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@mars9 ·
https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=timcliff&delegatee=artist1989&vesting_shares=103536.174504%20VESTS
I want to like it
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@marsresident ·
$0.29
If we can get STEEM in the news, we can get it over $5 each.

Everyone should use this Media email list (3000+ contacts)
https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/how-you-can-help-get-steem-in-the-news-simply-using-your-email

And send them this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-currency-steem-idUSKCN0ZS2MF

And this:
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/steem/
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@timcliff ·
Sorry, but this is off topic and unrelated to this post. It seems like link spam.
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@mattclarke ·
$4.14
Riveting. Thanks. So to clarify, one could stealth hack an account. 
If a noob investor wanted help opening an account, the 'helper' could set up the account, noting the keys, wait for the dust to settle and the money to move in, then delegate most of that voting power to his own account, enjoying the large curation rewards, undetected. 
The  inexperienced investor wouldn't know he's losing out on curation rewards, and everything would look correct in his steemit account. 
Trying to power down would ring alarm bells, but if he's holding long term that may be years away.
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@sneak ·
$1.66
You don't need delegation to steal money if you have someone's Active key.
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@timcliff ·
$5.54
Well if someone is creating an account for you, hopefully you would trust them to some extent..

It would be advised to change your keys as soon as you get the account. They would have 30 days after that to 'recover' the account and steal it back, but you would notice that. Assuming you changed the keys as soon as you took ownership of the account, then that is all they could do.

If you are assuming that someone has your keys, then there are quite a few things they could do at that point. If they did what you were describing though, you would _probably_ notice, since every time you upvoted it would not add anything to the rewards.
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@mattclarke ·
$4.14
True. Careful who you trust. 
I'm just thinking with the current delays and the numerous options for jumping the queue.
A clever operator could offer to set up accounts for lots of people, fail to remind them to change passwords, and keep an eye on their balances, consistently delegating himself half their voting power. 
I think I saw someone offering to register account names en masse  for $15/each.
Caveat Emptor.
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@mattclarke ·
$0.56
FYI, just followed your instructions, and it worked beautifully. Appreciate it, Tim.
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@melowd ·
$0.13
Thanks for info.
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@mggiodev ·
$0.09
Great post and very informative... TY   upvoted and followed.
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@mintsauce ·
$0.14
Oh yes, bookmarked this for future use ;). Thanks, I was curious about it and you just solved my problems.
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@moksamol ·
$0.43
Very informative!
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@orionsbelt ·
$0.15
damnn..didnt know you could transfer sp directly
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@timcliff ·
$1.66
Well, you are not exactly transferring it. You are letting them use it. It is still your SP that you can take back at any time (see note in post about the 7 day wait).
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@pibara ·
$0.06
Think I'll pass on using this given the warning stuff and all. So any pointers on where to find this "complicated API tool" ?
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@timcliff ·
$0.06
There are some users in the #dev channel of Steemit chat that should be able to help guide you.
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@fersher ·
$0.32
What is a steemit channel?  How do I get to it?
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@positivesteem ·
$0.25
Wonderfuly explained in simple and non technical terms. Thank you so much.
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@rahul.stan ·
$0.20
Awesome stuff. If only I had the sp for delegation :p
I barely have around 700 lol. And I wanna be a curator. Got a long way to go lol
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@richguy ·
Great post. Would you consider investing in my by resteeming a post from me? I take this post as one that will help our youths slow down a bit in the pursuit of material thing. Keeping a balance is the key here. https://steemit.com/life/@richguy/the-power-of-consistent-minimal-increment you can check it out.
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@timcliff ·
Sorry, but this is not really on topic with the material in this post.
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@richguy ·
I KNOW THAT. Just needed a resteem and I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. Thanks.
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@rooby ·
$0.14
Will it be needed after hardfork changes?
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@timcliff ·
There will still be a use for delegating even after the HF.
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@shahidshah ·
$0.04
Amazing information thank you for your work and help!!
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@shreyasgune ·
$0.04
One question: Why I cancel the delegation by delegating 0 vests. does the steel power get undelegated and transferred back to me the same instant ?
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@timcliff ·
It is instantly removed from the account that you delegated to, but it takes 7 days to return to your account. The reason is to prevent users from double voting with the same SP.
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@sikawura ·
$0.14
Thanks for sharing
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@sneak ·
$26.85
Be extremely careful providing your active key to *anyone* or *any site*.

This key allows anyone in possession of it to access all the money in your account.

It is not recommended that you share this key with anyone for any reason!
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@bronevik ·
$0.25
Thanks for warning! I nearly did it!
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@oldtimer ·
$30.43
So if i understand correctly you don't recommend to use this option to delegate SP?
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@pradumngaur ·
@sneak
Yes,You are right the private key is the heart of our account.If it steal then we lost our account.
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@sulev ·
So can I trust the Busy.org team to keep my key safe? Or will they one day deplete my account... :S
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@mattclarke ·
If you see a powerdown you didn't authorise, you can always use your password to change your active key and cancel the powerdown, as I understand, although you'd lose anything you were holding in liquid form.
Either way, just dropped in to confirm these instructions worked a treat. 
I'm going on holiday for a bit, and just delegated my voting power to @holoz0r. 
I can already see it in his wallet.  Thanks @timcliff.
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@timcliff ·
Thanks @sneak! I updated the post with a warning.
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@friendly-fenix ·
@timcliff
Hello I have a question, (because I trust you and vote for you as a witness)!

This cool dude called @artopium wants me to join his project " @ArtTurtle", and he wants me to sign up by using: https://www.artopium.com/space20/myartopium.cgi

This sounds really cool, but is this safe?
I would really value your opinion since you are so knowledgeable in these matters.
And Im not...Trying to read up on it... Thanks for sharing this article!!!


Sincerely!

/FF
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@venusjain ·
I am unable to delegate ![1.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQteog8HRuHowLDAJRab2dAnbZQFQRhFcpSBrsHvFZ1NA/1.JPG)

I don`t know which key to enter here  ?
kindly help me with it
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@venusjain ·
my key isn`t working it seems,
I think I might be entering the wrong key here
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@vladivostok ·
I have successfully delegate before and now for some reason I cant, its saying my active key is invalid. any ideas?
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@steemitguide ·
$0.97
Shared :) to Facebook, this needs more awareness over time especially when we get more Users onboard
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@stimialiti · (edited)
Sorry for the interjection, but why did they fuck me here: https://steemd.com/@stimialiti?page=6
just search for the word "undelegate". 
I made a post about it, but was ignored. 
I found that the only way to get answers here is to interject in other people's posts and not to post myself, because my posts get ignored.
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@timcliff ·
I am on a phone so I don't have an easy way to search. I assume that when your account was first created it had a large amount of SP delegated, and then they removed some/all of the delegation. This is by design. The delegated SP is intended to be temporary. It is to provide new accounts with enough bandwidth to be able to use the blockchain. After users have enough SP to interact with the blockchain on their own, the delegated SP is no longer needed, and so it is removed.
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@stimialiti · (edited)
You are the first to reply to me about it, and probably the last. I appreciate it.
Firstly I don't remember how much SP I had exactly, so I might have had more than 5.9,  but not a lot.
Even if you go to https://steemd.com/@stimialiti?page=6 and only scroll and search with your eyes and fingers for the word "undelegate" or for the words "steem undelegate"  , you may find it and also find that my account was very young and in no way had enough SP to be robbed like this, and why do it anyway? except for the extremely  cynical reasoning of trying to force me to buy  Steem and prevent me from enjoying curation rewards.  
I could not sell their delegated Steem-Power anyway!


Secondly, I also suggest that you should read my last post, about steemit: https://steemit.com/steemit/@stimialiti/to-dan-ned-the-witnesses-and-to-everyone-invested-in-this-platform-to-save-steemit-this-is-what-you-should-do

, and berniesanders' post : https://steemit.com/steemit/@berniesanders/the-asian-steem-scheme-thank-you-ned-and-abit-for-rewarding-and-delegating-your-sp-to-empower-the-asians-to-line-their-pockets

If I convince you to power-down and rescue however small purchasing power you still have left, I will consider it returning the favor and then some.  
Also, Dan and  Ned are powering down lately, they know  that STEEM will decline further and then it will decline further, and later it will go down in its price even further.
You will do best if you invest your efforts at your youtube & dailymotion channel/s and leave links to them on your steemit profile, so people will be able to find you soon enough before this platform dies completely, and it will happen, remember  that I warned you.
Connect your internet entities to one another so your followers from one will follow you to another.
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@strat ·
$0.15
Thank you for this! I'm new to Steemit and I'm fixing to to put some big money on here haha.
Great community
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@timcliff ·
Cool, glad you are here :)
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@sunnia ·
$0.18
When i try to transfer steem power following error occur:
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@timcliff ·
Can you send a screenshot of what the page looks like before you submit it and get the error?
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@sunnia ·
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@sunnia ·
$0.17
after these two windows , error message display that i send you yesterday.
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@swelker101 ·
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Is there any way to see who you've delegated to or from?  We are trying to find a way to verify delegation from specific accounts.
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@timcliff ·
Sorry, I actually do not know a way to do this myself. If you find one, please let me know :)
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@swelker101 ·
Thanks for the quick response. Yeah, that information is a tough nut to crack. I will definitely pass it on if we find a solution.
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@swtcamito ·
$0.13
that is really  great ,Thank you for these
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@synesthesia · (edited)
$7.68
Damn... @timcliff I assumed that when you did it for me you waved a magic wand and said abracadabra, now I know that magic is dead. 😭


Hehe +1 😉
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@timcliff ·
This is brand new magic. Before I posted this, I was doing all delegations via the cli_wallet API. Now Busy.org has made the magic available to all of you ;)
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@someonewhoisme · (edited)
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Vessel from @jesta lets you delegate steem power very easily.
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@synesthesia ·
$0.15
That's so cool! You're truly full of surprises 😄
Also 
https://media.giphy.com/media/zIwIWQx12YNEI/giphy.gif
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@tabea ·
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Hello @timcliff
I was trying to undelegate, and I see the undelegating (delegated 0 vests) in the blockchain, but in my wallet still shows the amount delegated before the undelegating. Does it take 7 days to take delegations back? Or what was the meaning of the seven days? As far as I understand your posting, it was meant needing 7 days to delegate from new to this delegatee account.
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@timcliff ·
Yes, it takes 7 days for the SP to return to your account. The reason is to prevent double voting.
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@the-commentator ·
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Dang!......i need some delegated vest @timcliff ......*smiling; it is a wish!*
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@the-commentator ·
MEEEEEEEEP
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@themevlog ·
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excellent tips, I really appreciate it! followed!
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@trumanity · (edited)
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Just as update for information to those landing here,  https://steemdb.com/ should now be used to discover the vest values. And you can also alter or do any delegations (un-delegations) using a tool on the multi-tool swiss army knife of steemit ;-) https://steemworld.org/@usernameofyouraccount - thanks for this tutorial (I used a similar tutotial by @timclif to open an account for a friend) Thanks!
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@wthomas ·
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Thanks cliff for sharing this bit of information, It is quite useful. We appreciate your efforts.
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@wthomas ·
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Is there a tool where someone can determine who delegated SP to their account?
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@timcliff ·
I'm not aware of one.
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@xdark21 ·
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A really good read thank you for sharing
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@zeartul ·
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damn good info, now its easier to do these things with amazing tools. as it should
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