YouTube/Google detecting and blocking ad blockers could be illegal in the EU 😂 by vikisecrets

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hive-167922 · @vikisecrets · Nov 17 '23 (edited)

$10.84

YouTube/Google detecting and blocking ad blockers could be illegal in the EU 😂

Seit einiger Zeit geht YouTube verstärkt gegen Ad Blockers vor und zwingt User nicht überspringbare Werbung anzuschauen.

Ein EU-Abgeordneter der Piratenpartei (Patrick Breyer) sagt jetzt, dass diese Praxis in der EU illegal sein könnte, da Google mit der Erkennung, ob man einen Ad Blocker verwendet oder nicht, gegen die DSGVO vestoßen könnte 😂

Mittels Fingerprinting, diversen Scripts versuchen Websiten herauszufinden, ob man einen Werbeblocker verwendet und die Werbung angezeigt wird oder nicht.

Das könnte in der EU gegen den Datenschutz verstoßen.

YouTube müsste davor eine Einwilligung der Benutzer einholen, ähnliche wie bei den sinnlosen Cookie-Bannern, um erkennen zu dürfen, ob man einen Ad Blocker verwendet oder nicht.

Ich bezweifle aber ein bisschen, ob in diesem Fall die DSGVO wirklich im Interesse der User ausgelegt werden würde oder die Konzerne doch eine Hintertür finden, warum dies doch zulässig sei.

Außerdem könnte Google einfach im Zuge des Cookie-Banners gleich eine Einwilligung für das Erkennen von Ad Blockers einbauen.

Denke nicht, dass damit wirklich etwas gewonnen ist. Letztendlich ist es ein technisches Katz-und-Maus-Spiel zwischen Website-Betreibern und Blockern.

Man sollte Menschen nicht mit technischen Hilfsmitteln zwingen dürfen, Werbung anschauen zu müssen. Das wäre dystopisch so wie bei Clockwork Orange, ist aber in gewisser Weise bereits der Fall.

Was sagt ihr dazu? Denkt ihr, dass das Erkennen von Ad Blockern in der EU illegal ist?

## YouTube vs. ad blockers

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/vikisecrets/23tkhmNdJ7MwSb4NnVKeaLgc6Mft4CMo7uMGwqzFphGyvVwbdWyEN43CM6qygCSrujGch.png)

## YouTube's ad blocker detection violating EU data protection laws?

https://twitter.com/echo_pbreyer/status/1721516076746318262

https://twitter.com/echo_pbreyer/status/1721969725121405028

## English

YouTube has been increasingly cracking down on ad blockers and forcing users to watch non-skippable ads.

A Pirate Party MEP (Patrick Breyer) now says that this practice could be illegal in the EU, as Google could violate the GDPR by detecting whether you are using an ad blocker or not 😂

Using fingerprinting and various scripts, websites try to find out whether you are using an ad blocker and whether the ad is displayed or not.

This could violate data protection laws in the EU.

YouTube would have to obtain user consent beforehand, similar to the pointless cookie banners, in order to be allowed to recognize whether or not you are using an ad blocker.

However, I have my doubts as to whether the GDPR would really be interpreted in the interests of the users in this case or whether the companies would find a loophole as to why this is permissible after all.

Google could also simply include consent for the recognition of ad blockers as part of the cookie banner.

I don't think this would really achieve anything. Ultimately, it's a technical cat-and-mouse game between website operators and blockers.

Companies shouldn't be allowed to force people to watch advertising using technical aids. That would be dystopian, like Clockwork Orange, but in a way it already is.

What do you think? Do you think that the detection of ad blockers is illegal in the EU?

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$0.10

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@dirkzett · Nov 17 '23

$0.14

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@djbravo · Nov 18 '23

We have been seeing for a long time now that such platforms are becoming stricter due to which people are no longer using them.

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@jane911x · Nov 17 '23

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I agree that companies shouldnt be allowed to force people to watch ads especially because there are ads that could last a minute or two. I personally hate these ads but i also think that its illegal to download ad blockers. Google and the users could meet halfway thru the skip botton.

👍 vikisecrets

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@jfang003 · Nov 17 '23

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I have heard arguments about it and I honestly think it is just leading people to find out more about alternatives. I think most ads tend to detract from experiences because it doesn't really give you much benefits. I understand that the companies want to make money but most ads I see, I just ignore.

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@kriszrokk · Nov 17 '23

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Das wird nichts. Man muss ja nicht YT nutzen; es gibt ja andere Alternativen wie z.B. Odysee oder 3Speak via Hive. Schon 'putzig' die Initiative der Piratenpartei 😂

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@kungfukid · Nov 17 '23

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Its a good thing that someone is blocking youtubes attempt to block adblocker. Haha

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@mundharmonika · Nov 17 '23

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Es wird ja niemand gezwungen, YouTube zu nutzen! Und genau das werden die zu spüren bekommen, nämlich dass ihnen immer mehr den Rücken kehren und die Klickzahlen zurückgehen. Innerhalb des Brave-Browsers habe ich damit übrigens kein Problem, da kommt keine Werbung und auch kein Mecker-Hinweis von ZensurTube.

!PIZZA

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@investinthefutur · Nov 17 '23

@janasilver denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient!<br>@janasilver thinks you have earned a vote of @investinthefutur !<br>

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@janasilver · Nov 17 '23

!invest_vote !LUV !PIZZA !wine !WITZ !LOLZ !HUGH

👍 indextrader24
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@oskarl21 · Nov 17 '23

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The issue is complicated, as the way the GDPR is interpreted and applied can change. However, the concern for privacy and data protection is justified. There is a thin line between ensuring the sustainability of online services and respecting the user's privacy.

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@pizzabot · Nov 17 '23 (edited)

RE: YouTube/Google detecting and blocking ad blockers could be illegal in the EU 😂

<center>PIZZA!


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@razerhero · Nov 17 '23

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I agree! we should not be force to watch advertisment.

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@stayoutoftherz · Nov 17 '23

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Wer genug Macht hat, kann das Recht verbiegen.

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@vikisecrets · Nov 17 '23

ja so ist es, erwarte mir nicht allzu viel von dem Vorstoß.

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@thebighigg · Nov 17 '23

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No one should be forced to watch ads, but tech companies will always find a way to justify it. They will also  start to include it in their user agreement, the old CYA (cover your ass) method to protect themselves.

Dystopia, welcome to our modern world...  Ad blockers and ads will being an eternal game of cat an mouse!
!DHEDGE

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!PGM

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@werkseber · Nov 17 '23

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Großkonzerne werden IMMER einen Weg finden, die Bestimmungen zu umgehen. 
Dafür wird irgendein hochbezahlter Lobbyist schon sorgen.

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@yeckingo1 · Nov 17 '23

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It's funny to see the Pirate Party chasing internet pirates! 🤣

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