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I never lost money on @grumpycat downvotes. I gave money back to @grumpycat innocent victims on his huge upvote on my post I never intended to earn money. [link](https://steemit.com/life/@firedream/grumpy-cat-strikes-again-at-least-some-payback) I am not "butthurt" at any way. If you see my posts, I only use bots when my posts are very fresh and with small amounts. If you also see my amateur utopian projects, I had to do this because I was making projects on bots. Only the last post I used all my SBD because I want it to be really heard. ( And I lost money on this...no problem) Bots never gave me enough to cover my payments.I call it R&D expenses. What gave me money here is mostly my tiny amateur utopian projects. For me and only me, the only way to earn money here is *to do something valuable*. Either a small development, or some insightful post. I have seen people, with really good heart and good intentions that are victimized by @grumpycat. Should I close my eyes and pretend not to see? FD.
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I don't see anyone getting hurt but those who produce content and have a smaller reward pool at the end of the day by those buying votes. You can call it whatever you want. Good content will be rewarded. Perfect example @rubencress account started at the end of January. Never bought a vote and wow look his work is rewarded. That is quality content. That is quality content to the people with vested steempower. Just because you "think" other people have good content does not mean that those who can reward $5, $10, $30 or $500 per comment do. Everyone can make it on steem it if they put in the work, do their time and interact with the steemit COMMUNITY, NOT DISCORD community. Steemit.chat is the chat of the STEEMIT community. More users should try using the steemit provided channels in place of circle jerk discord channels.
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My argument is : "downvoting innocent people with fresh, quality post just because he/she used upvote bots is bullying" Your counter-argument is : " there are people in steemit succeded without using bots" Analogy : There are people in life succeded without going to university, so no need for universities. Unfortunately, because of the current curation system people follow the money not the content. Yes, good content will be rewarded but first it must get out of the "noise". For discord, i met it with steemit and i loved it. What is wrong with using it? FD.
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If I remember correctly this is the set of scammers who were @grumpycat corrected. You tell me which of these scammers make quality content that was incorrectly down-voted.  I hold two University degree's and work from home using neither, have 10 kids, own my own home and so on. I would think if buying votes was a real thing people needed to do to survive someone with the almost $12,000 in monthly bills like myself would do. Difference is I am not a lazy fuck trying to live off of steemit when I have bills to pay and a family.
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The problem with discord is hidden channels, erased messages and no record of voice chats. I know I have small whale support, the reason I have it based on when I ask is because I am powering up my account and that means I am here to stay. New users who buy votes appear to be in it for a money grab. So why would they get rewarded if they are not putting their earnings into the system? And the fact you miss is the large upvote from the vote bot get's the largest curation reward from the post.
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