RE: #NewSteem is Live by drutter

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hf21 · @drutter · Aug 28 '19

Yes, something is wrong with the vote system. For example, upvote amounts are only half what they are expected to be. My 4 cent upvote has become a 2 cent upvote.
Along with your issue, it seems there's a problem with votes. :(

👍 girlsofgreen, hempy, vantocan, greatesteem, sativazeee, smokiethebear912
👎 kdtkaren

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@bryan-imhoff · Aug 28 '19

That’s the result of the new non-linear rewards curve. Your vote will only have its full strength when applied to posts that garner rewards of approximately 20 Steem or more. If you vote in isolation expect your votes to be substantially weaker.

👍 richatvns, kawaiicrush, jrej
👎 honusurf, kdtkaren

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@drutter · Aug 28 '19

$0.03

So to get more "strength", I need to vote only on comments that will receive at least 20 STEEM?
On top of all the other ways I've been downgraded today, this looks like it's going to be harder than ever to reach that $0.02 cutoff for payout.
And I've got 2 years of full time work behind me here. Think of the newcomers?! I also invested 5000 USD here to get my team started (which is now down to 450 USD). Imagine those who don't have 5 grand to invest here to get themselves started?

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@bryan-imhoff · Aug 28 '19

Correct. It’s important to note the “strength” of your vote will adjust dynamically after you’ve voted, so even if it’s worth .02 when you cast it, if the post goes on to earn 20+ Steem, thereby moving up the reward curve, your contribution amount will grow.

I preferred linearity, and yes, this system does make it much more difficult to give out small “micro rewards” in comments and one on one interactions. It’s meant to enforce “consensus” of many people liking content. I think it has a chance to work at scale... if we get to a point of millions of active users, but in the short term, especially when combined with 50/50 curation,  it may slow the broader distribution of Steem and growth of a “middle class.”

👍 jaki01, girlsofgreen, drutter
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5 replies

@davemccoy · Aug 29 '19

the people that make the decisions will never understand that point.  But I get it, I'm just tired of wasting my breath.

👍 drutter

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@richatvns · Aug 28 '19

well I can say that there are contests that get 20 steem upvotes all the time and give votes back and rewards....

I will not list them here, but I know of a few if you contact me through discord I will point you to them....

👍 richatvns
👎 kawaiicrush

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@thecryptodrive · Aug 28 '19 (edited)

It's sometimes safer to rent Steem Power from blocktrades.us or dlease.io than to outright buy it, kind of a try-before-you-buy scenario, once price looks like it is starting to increase again then you can buy in and ride the wave up.

👍 richatvns
👎 kawaiicrush, me-we

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@madalchemist · Aug 28 '19

I'm glad i didn't invest because that's a fucking retarded plan. The rich get richer around here

👍 kawaiicrush, oldoneeye, marina007, votes4minnows

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@smooth · Aug 28 '19 (edited)

There isn't really a single "full strength" any more. Near 20 the votes will have "average" strength (in practice this applies for some range both above and below 20). Below 20 they will have less and above 20 they will have more.

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@improv · Aug 28 '19

$0.05

I assume this is because of the new rewards curve. i.e. this is the intended consequence of the Hardfork. Any posts worth less than 20 Steem will be worth even less. And at the posts really far away from 20 steem, the votes will be worth less than half of what they'd otherwise be worth.

👍 acidyo, richatvns, kawaiicrush
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@richatvns · Aug 28 '19

WELL SAID MY FRIEND...LET'S GO START DOWNVOTING WITH OUR MANA
ALL THE WHALES.... that pushed this......

now that we have the downvotes... time to down vote every time we disagree with these destroyers of the small guy...

👎 kdtkaren

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@improv · Aug 28 '19

They still wield all the power, though...

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