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hive-121566 · @vikisecrets · (edited)
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xAI acquired X for 45 billion in an all-stock transaction. Smart move?
xAI hat X für 45 Milliarden Dollar (inkl. Schulden) in einer reinen Aktien-Transaktion übernommen. Smarter Move?

Dass X, das seit der Übernahme mit Musk trotz massiven Sparkurs, nicht profitabel ist und irgendwann verkauft werden muss, war für mich ganz klar. Dass X jetzt von einer anderen Musk-Firma übernommen wird, ist doch eine kleine Überraschung, macht aber meiner Meinung nach auf den zweiten Blick durchaus Sinn.

Denke, die Transaktion hat mehrere Vorteile. Erstens steigen die Miteigentümer von X (Binance, Oracle Cofounder Larry Ellison, Saudi-Prinz Al Waleed bin Talal Al Saud, Sequoia, Qatar Holding) und auch Musk ganz gut aus, da sie jetzt um den ursprünglichen Kaufpreis von Twitter Anteile an xAI erhalten.

Musk bleibt damit hauptsächlicher Eigentümer von X und xAI.

Die finanzielle Situation von X ist zumindest solange der KI-Hype anhält, entschärft, da xAI leichter an VC-Kapital kommen kann als X. Davon könnte jetzt auch X profitieren. Es könnte zu einer Quersubventionierung von X durch xAI-Kapitalgeber kommen.

Und es gibt nicht zuletzt auch tatsächliche Synergieeffekte. xAI kann so wie bisher den gesamten Datenbestand von Twitter/X für das Training von Grok verwenden. Eine Goldgrube für xAI.

Der Merger macht also durchaus Sinn und ist ein genialer Schachzug von Musk. Aber es gibt auch Risiken. Durch die Übernahme steigt das finanzielle Risiko von xAI, das derzeit intern mit 80 Milliarden bewertet wird, mehr als Anthropic mit 60 Milliarden.

Sollte der KI-Hype crashen könnte X und xAI vor noch größeren Finanzproblemen stehen als jetzt, da es im Moment sehr schwer ist, Foundation-Modelle zu monetarisieren.

Was sagt ihr zur Übernahme? Denkt ihr, dass xAI mit X profitabel werden kann oder ist es nur ein Trick, um X vor dem Bankrott zu bewahren?

https://img.leopedia.io/DQmdXfkrwRoNzeZfvpbr9Hz2BzYgCsFnZV56nyrD4NeNtyF/image.png

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1905731750275510312

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xAI has acquired X for 45 billion dollars (including debt) in an all-stock transaction. Smart move?

It was quite clear that X, which has not been profitable since the takeover by Elon Musk despite massive cost-cutting measures, would have to be sold at some point in time. But the fact that it is now taken over by another Musk company is a bit of a surprise, but in my opinion it makes perfect sense at second glance.

I think the transaction has several advantages. Firstly, the co-owners of X (Binance, Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison, Saudi Prince Al Waleed bin Talal Al Saud, Sequoia, Qatar Holding) and Musk are getting out quite well, as they are now receiving shares in xAI for the original purchase price of Twitter.

Musk thus remains the main owner of X and xAI.

The financial situation of X has been alleviated, at least as long as the AI hype continues, as xAI can obtain VC capital much more easily than X. X could now also benefit from this. X could be cross-subsidized by xAI investors.

And last but not least, there are also actual synergy effects. As before, xAI can use the entire Twitter/X database to train Grok. A goldmine for xAI.

The merger therefore makes perfect sense and is a brilliant move by Musk. But there are also risks. The takeover increases the financial risk of xAI, which is currently valued internally at 80 billion, more than Anthropic at 60 billion.

If the AI hype crashes, X and xAI could face even greater financial problems than they do now, as it is currently very difficult to monetize foundation models.

What do you think about the takeover? Do you think xAI can become profitable with X or is it just a ploy to save X from bankruptcy?

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@beatminister ·
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Das ist das kuriose an Musk - menschlich ist er ein totaler Freak, aber was Geschäfte und Technik angeht ein Genie.
Ich glaube auch nicht das es zZt. einen "KI Hype" gibt. Das ist so, als hätte man gesagt "das ist ein Auto Hype" als Ford sein Model T herausbrachte. Ich denke eher, wir sehen den Anfang einer Revolution. Wobei niemand weis wohin das noch führen kann. Manche KI Firmen werden zu Riesen wachsen, andere werden wieder eingehen. So wie es auch in der Auto-Industrie war, oder nach der Erfindung von Computern. 
Musk ist jedenfalls mal wieder ganz vorn dabei. Und er hat die Reserven auch mal einen Rückschlag zu verkraften.
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@borsengelaber ·
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Das ist so ein Buchungs-Steuer- Trickmove, oder?
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@vikisecrets ·
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Denke der Merger soll die Gläubiger beruhigen und für mehr Liquidität sorgen.
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@davideownzall ·
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just a burocratic move to sort out the bills, not much changes in the end of the day
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@insanejane · 
Maybe it's just a distraction from something more interesting.
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Looks like Elon is doing everything to save X
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@jfang003 "I am not sure, but I guess it works well to get fu..."
I am not sure, but I guess it works well to get funds for X. I think it's a smart move by them, but I am not sure if it will save them from bankruptcy because anything could happen to AI at this point.
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Es macht durchaus Sinn, insofern stimme ich dir absolut zu. Ob es ein genialer Schachzug ist, weiß ich aber nicht. Mal schauen, was daraus wird!
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Hat sicher vor allem mit Steueroptimierung zu tun. Die von Dir genannten Vorteile hatte X ja schon vorher. xAI hat sicher nicht bis jetzt gewartet, um an die Daten von X zu kommen.
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@vikisecrets ·
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Yep, da hast du recht, aber jetzt ist es rechtlich noch leichter an die Daten zu kommen.
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@thebighigg · 
Financially it's a no brainer, he will make out really well on the deal. I think they have enough smart people on board to make xAI work, but we'll see what the future of X becomes. Right now there is just too much politics involved...
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@thehivetuber ·
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Lol, bro is playing financial Tetris again. Short term, it patches X’s money problems, but long term, xAI is taking a big risk. If AI funding tightens, this whole setup could backfire fast and seriously 
But I'll be optimistic on his behalf, he's already going through the meal with America and vandalization lol
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