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RE: The DNC is ignoring the Rule of Law (again) and they are making their illegal Investigation totally closed to everyone! by smithlabs

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· @smithlabs ·
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>This goes for BOTH PARTIES. It seems that people are quick to forget about Bill Clinton who was dragged through a full impeachment trial for hair-splitting the not-legally-defined phrase "sexual relations".

I will tell you this, If MY wife found a sweet thing busy between my knees like that, NO anount of fast talking would convince her that was not sex. I taught her to shoot....They are also paying her hush money, One must wonder why!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_crimes_and_misdemeanors

It is NOT a crime to hold alternate political views! Since the Ukraine did not even know that funds were not there, when this conversation occurred, and the only request was to coordinate investigations (which is NORAML iternational negotiations) there is nothing here.

As far as Biden, I posted video of Joe Biden bragging that he threatened to withhold US Military aid if they did not fire the man in charge of investigating his Son. He also gave them a six hour deadline to get it done! They complied, and he bragged about that also. 

No same individual can compare these two international interactions! One is asking for cooperation investigating a suspected crime, and the other is blocking an investigation by threatening a foreign government. Withholding these funds, as Biden threatened to do would have allowed the Russians to destroy the Ukraine. 

That combined with the FBI etc ignoring both Ukraine and Italy, who have been complaining about these strong arm tactics used by Obama,  Biden, and Clinton; exposes the need to investigate actual crimes, including the refusal of the FBI to investigate! We need to purge the FBI, to restore public trust.
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@logiczombie ·
Let's say for the sake of argument that what you say is true.

> As far as Biden, I posted video of Joe Biden bragging that he threatened to withhold US Military aid if they did not fire the man in charge of investigating his Son.

Do you consider this a crime?

Do you consider this inappropriate behavior?

Please answer with a "yes" or a "no".
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@smithlabs ·
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I posted here a couple of weeks ago, go look.
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@logiczombie · (edited)
Link please.

I'm a little surprised you can't just say "yes" or "no".
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@logiczombie ·
> By his own admission on video (which I posted here recently) Joe Biden incriminated himself in this clear crime!

I see, so you do believe it was a crime.  Why didn't you just say so?

I wonder what FOX has to say...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yY_N4d5xv8

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@smithlabs ·
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First, before I waste my time debating sheeple , there are some base rules:

Facts only, verified somewhere besides Snopes, and not opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they usually stink.

Debate must be limited to a specific topic. Introducing new topics each post solves nothing. 

**`IF YOU Can't debate intelligently, stay off of my page, I have limited time for liberal sheep`**

If you want to discuss Biden, please specify which criminal act we are discussing, and which Biden. 

In the Video, Joe Biden confesses to a Quid Pro Quo, where he bragged that he used US Military assistance; as leverage to protect his Son from a criminal investigation. 

HIS Words, not mine! 
1) It s a crime to impede an investigation. 
2) It is a crime to use your office to provide income for your Son; by selling influence. 
3) It is illegal to threaten the withhold US Military aid, knowing full well that the country will be over run by the Russians without that aid. 
4) It is illegal to secure loans, based on your father's government job; then use that money to invest in companies that are sanctioned.

There are many more, so please select one. BUT use facts, not liberal talking points!
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@logiczombie ·
> In the Video, 

The video, which you have refused to reveal, so I am forced to reference this one,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY&feature=youtu.be&t=16

> Joe Biden confesses to a Quid Pro Quo, where he bragged that he used US Military assistance; as leverage to protect his Son from a criminal investigation.

He does no such thing.

Remember, FACTS ONLY,

He pressured Ukraine to remove an unqualified prosecutor who,

Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

Mr Tombinski said the EU was also concerned about the resignation or dismissal of several “reform-oriented” prosecutors and reports that Mr Shokin’s office was investigating a “highly-respected” anti-corruption group – an obvious reference to Kiev’s Anti-Corruption Action Centre, which had fiercely criticised Mr Shokin.

In what appeared to be his last act before dismissal, Mr Shokin sacked his deputy, Davit Sakvarelidze, who had repeatedly called for his boss to be fired. [Source](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190)

Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma _**[the company you are so specifically concerned about]**_ – to the extent that Obama officials were considering launching their own criminal investigation into the company for possible money laundering. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin#Burisma_Holdings_and_the_Biden_family)

> HIS Words, not mine!

Your injection of, "to protect his Son from a criminal investigation" is pure OPINION.

These are YOUR WORDS, "to protect his Son from a criminal investigation".

Please use FACTS ONLY.

I honestly don't think Biden is worth the oxygen he consumes, but you really need to use FACTS ONLY.
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@logiczombie ·
> It s a crime to impede an investigation.

Are you talking about claiming blanket immunity in order to justify withholding evidence in an ongoing criminal investigation?

> It is a crime to use your office to provide income for your Son; 

I agree in principle, but can you reference the specific law?

Please use FACTS ONLY.

> by selling influence.

Are you talking about writing a letter requesting an ambassador be fired because someone contributed a ton of cash to your political campaign?

> It is illegal to threaten the withhold US Military aid, knowing full well that the country will be over run by the Russians without that aid.

I agree in principle, but can you reference the specific law?

Please use FACTS ONLY.

> It is illegal to secure loans, based on your father's government job; 

I agree in principle, but can you reference the specific law?

Please use FACTS ONLY.

> then use that money to invest in companies that are sanctioned.

Yes, it is illegal to invest in companies that have been listed as illegal to invest in.

Are you suggesting that _**Zlochevsky and Burisma**_ was under U.S. sanctions at the time that Hunter Biden became involved with them?

Please use FACTS ONLY.

> There are many more, so please select one. BUT use facts, not liberal talking points!

Please use FACTS ONLY.
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@wikitextbot ·
<b>High crimes and misdemeanors</b>
The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as dishonesty, negligence, perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of public funds or assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, or tax evasion. Offenses by officials also include ordinary crimes, but perhaps with different standards of proof and punishment than for non-officials, on the grounds that more is expected of officials by their oaths of office.  Indeed the offense may not even be a breach of criminal statute.
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@logiczombie ·
> unbecoming conduct

Indeed.
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