RE: Curation at it's worst... by revise.pob

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proofofbrain · @revise.pob · Jul 9 '21 (edited)

$0.04

There's no ideal solution, I just remember Steem when there were no DVs 

It was shit. 

I think @themarkymark put it most succinctly in a comment somewhere - for every malicious DV there are 100 irresponsible upvotes.

On a complete tangent i think it's a moot point - I'm not about to invest that heavily in a side chain where I don't know who the token issuer is, or worse, where i don't know but i've got an idea and I think he might be a bit of a loose cannon. 

Maybe for that reason we shouldn't have DVs - from an investor's perspective POB can only ever be a bit of fun anyway! Dvs can ruin that for sure. 



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@offgridlife · Jul 9 '21

$0.04

Yeah… I see way too much collateral damage when whales start downvoting whales.. and minnows get wiped out. Lots of people quitting over losing a few pennies on the 7th day.  1 or 2 hive is nothing to a whale but it’s a meal for some people in the world.



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@adamcurry33 · Jul 10 '21

$1.12

Agreed 💯

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@offgridlife · Jul 10 '21

$0.24

But Nobody cares.

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@themarkymark · Jul 9 '21

$0.06

100?  More like 1000-10000 :)

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@revise.pob · Jul 9 '21

Yes, I overuse my 0 key so I have to be conservative with it.



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@scholaris.pob · Jul 10 '21

Some of the extremes that you pointed out were pretty clear to see like with your article on Lassecash.  

Is there a word count/rewards ratio where you deem something is over-rewarded?  Could it be that objective?  Is there some consensus behind the scenes before a DV on over-rewarding gets issued?  

For instance, self-voting is tolerated, but if I gave this comment a full upvote on my POB account, I "feel" that would be malicious.  Would I be correct in writing that observation?  

Are there types of malicious upvoting?  Just looking for guidance here.



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@themarkymark · Jul 10 '21

> Is there a word count/rewards ratio where you deem something is over-rewarded? Could it be that objective?

It is very subjective.

> For instance, self-voting is tolerated, but if I gave this comment a full upvote on my POB account, I "feel" that would be malicious. Would I be correct in writing that observation?

In my opinion?  Yes.  I am personally not a fan of self voting comments.  In some rare cases I may do so with a small vote to bring it to the top of the comments if it is something critical.  But in almost all cases self voting comments is just farming.

> Are there types of malicious upvoting?

All the conspiracy posts that take half of trending that get massive votes for pseudo science.  All the whales that voted 5-20 vote posts that had no rewards to maximize their curation with little effort (pre-hardfork 25).  There are a few whales dropping $15-40 votes without regard to quality or even content and they stack on top of each other to take posts near $100 when they normally only take a few cents.  Just look at trending, you will see the same 5-6 whales controlling it with no regard to quality. 

I could go on, but I will struggle to find many cases of this elusive "malicious downvoting" that we are trying to stop by making laws on how to vote with their stake.

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