RE: Update on Simplicity: Cutting Complexity with Steem 0.17.0 by jrcornel

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simplicity · @jrcornel · Mar 13 '17

$0.19

Does a separate reward pool for comments make things more simple or is there another reason to have one? I guess I still wasn't sold on exactly why we need one...

👍 jrcornel, craig-grant

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@craig-grant · Mar 13 '17

$1.07

it's needed for steemit inc. to put comments on other web sites, like what discuss does, this is a great marketing tool for the steem blockchain

👍 liondani, demotruk, jrcornel, craig-grant, good-karma, bryan-imhoff, beanz, remlaps, ambyr00, baah, brindleswan, reisman, evildeathcore, roma-nt, finleyexp, dirty.hera

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@jrcornel · Mar 13 '17

$0.19

I was wondering if that was the purpose but have never directly heard as much... Here's to hoping that is the case! Thanks for the response.

👍 jrcornel, craig-grant

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@teamsteem · Mar 14 '17

$0.14

I think the comment reward pool will create an insanely awesome new dynamic to Steem. At first I was very skeptic but now I'm really excited to see what will come out of it.

👍 jrcornel, dan-atstarlite

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1 reply

@snowflake · Mar 13 '17

Websites owners are only going to integrate steem if it benefits their existing userbase. Unfortunately most websites's cutomers will never spend 10k usd to be able to reward a couple cent to other comments.
If steemit inc was looking for this type of integration they would have flatten the reward curve or just removed entirely. I am yet to hear a valid reason to keep it and self voting is not it.

👍 kurtbeil, baah

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@craig-grant · Mar 13 '17

$0.06

I'm looking forward to the 38% reduction in rewards for blog posts, and new users earning lots of steem from comments

👍 craig-grant

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@ned · Mar 13 '17

$0.43

The comment pool makes discussion and comment rewards more simple to achieve.  It is proposed to lower the barrier to entry for a new user's a-ha(!) moment and to stir discussion.

👍 demotruk, jrcornel, lichtblick, dan-atstarlite, kurtbeil, araki, matrixdweller, steevc, remlaps, riostarr, littlewhale, cassidyandfranks, baah, johnathanhenry, craig-grant

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@ats-david · Mar 13 '17

$0.37

Wouldn't the simpler solution be to adjust rewards curves and treat all posts (parent and child) the same? In any case, the fact that another pool is being created doesn't "cut complexity." It increases it.

👍 liondani

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@teamsteem · Mar 14 '17

Like I said above I was really skeptical of the comment reward pool at first but now I'm really excited about it. The discussion will become so much more intense and valuable as soon as it is implemented. 

The first person to upvote a comment on the new fork will see his upvote worth more than a thousand but more to the point I really think this will be a major benefit to Steem.

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2 replies

@jrcornel · Mar 13 '17

$0.11

A-ha(!) ;)

👍 jrcornel

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@virtualgrowth · Mar 13 '17

Think smaller SP holders need to be able to add value by curation comments of other smaller SP Holders possibly.  Why not show rewards in STEEM instead of $? Then $0.22 would be 2.528 STEEM and 0.001 STEEM curation reward from a smaller user would be possible by a 100X smaller SP holder.  Then that smaller holder would see their reward worth 0.001+ STEEM as opposed to $0.00 and feel like they are actually adding value that they could see.

👍 deanliu, bryan-imhoff, baah

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@baah · Mar 15 '17

I think this is another great point, why not remove the dollar amount and reflect the steem allocated thus far to the post/comment?

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1 reply

@onthewayout · Mar 14 '17

Agreed

👍 bryan-imhoff

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@tibonova · Mar 13 '17

$0.58

I think it's not good that this comment is competing with posts in which authors shares a part of their book. Why one should comment with this huge handicap? Therefore I agree with the separation. I want that my comment compete with other comments.

👍 liondani, jrcornel, tibonova, baah, rouketas, kamidela

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@jrcornel · Mar 13 '17

Good point!

👍 riostarr, steemspeak

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`pending_payout_value`	0.000 HBD
`promoted`	0.000 HBD
`body_length`	11
`author_reputation`	2,133,450,396,741,846
`root_title`	"Update on Simplicity: Cutting Complexity with Steem 0.17.0"
`beneficiaries`	`[]`
`max_accepted_payout`	1,000,000.000 HBD
`percent_hbd`	10,000
`post_id`	2,713,063
`net_rshares`	10,820,129,351
`author_curate_reward`	""

properties (23)vote details (2)

voter	weight	wgt%	rshares	pct	time
steemspeak	0 B		179,273,488	0.01%
riostarr	0 B		10,640,855,863	100%

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