Ist Bitcoin oder Ethereum sicherer vor einer 51%Attacke?/ Is Bitcoin or Ethereum safer from a 51% attack? by der-prophet

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hive-167922 · @der-prophet · 2025-06-19T19:20:00+00:00

$4.35

Ist Bitcoin oder Ethereum sicherer vor einer 51%Attacke?/ Is Bitcoin or Ethereum safer from a 51% attack?

![1000095346.jpg](https://images.hive.blog/DQmQryK3M4A2kVfg7RGBTv4vVzbg3n1nJKkE9rNhDc63xcP/1000095346.jpg)



Krypto-Unternehmer Grant Hummer sorgt mit einem Post auf X für Aufsehen. Hierbei sagt er, dass Bitcoin *“wegen seines Sicherheitsbudgets komplett am Arsch ist*”. Er schätzt die Kosten einer 51-Prozent-Attacke bei der Krypto-Leitwährung auf lediglich 8 Milliarden US-Dollar.

Diese werden dem Ethereum-Befürworter zufolge in Zukunft weiter sinken, sodass ein entsprechender Angriff bei Kosten von nur ***rund 2 Milliarden US-Dollar“praktisch sicher passieren wird”.***

>Eine 51-Prozent-Attacke liegt vor, wenn eine einzelne Einheit oder Gruppe mehr als die Hälfte der Mining- oder Staking-Power einer Blockchain kontrolliert und damit die Macht über das Netzwerk erlangt.

Justin Drake, der Architekt des Ethereum-Merge, sagt derweil ebenfalls, dass es *“viel billiger*” wäre, eine 51-Prozent-Attacke auf Bitcoin zu starten als auf Ethereum. Bei Ethereum schätze er das Vorhaben auf rund 10 Milliarden US-Dollar.

Drake hob noch einen weiteren Vorteil hervor, den Ethereum seiner Meinung nach hat: *“Wenn es eine 51-Prozent-Attacke gibt, kann der ‘social Layer’ den Angreifer identifizieren und ihn vernichten. Das ist eine Superkraft von Proof-of-Stake, die es bei Proof-of-Work nicht gibt.”*

Hassan Khan, CEO des Bitcoin-Liquiditätsprotokolls Ordeez, erklärt, dass
 *“die Debatte über die Machbarkeit einer 51-Prozent-Attacke offen bleibt – vor allem, weil, obwohl theoretisch möglich, die Hürden in der Praxis extrem hoch sind.”*

Er sagte, dass bei der Krypto-Leitwährung die notwendige Menge an Rechenleistung und Energie “*einen nachhaltigen Angriff höchst unwahrscheinlich macht”,* während der Konsensmechanismus bei Ethereum *“zusätzliche wirtschaftliche und Governance-technische Hindernisse einführt”.*

Jetzt kommt noch hinzu das Sam Altman CEO von ChatGPT in einem Blog-Beitrag schreibt...

>Altman schrieb, dass er davon ausgehe, dass Energie in den 2030er-Jahren im Überfluss vorhanden sein wird. Energie und die Grenzen der menschlichen Intelligenz sind seit langem "fundamentale Begrenzer des menschlichen Fortschritts", so Altman weiter. "In dem Maße, in dem die Produktion von Rechenzentren automatisiert wird, sollten sich die Kosten für künstliche Intelligenz schließlich den Kosten für Strom annähern", schrieb er.

Also gilt ab 2030 Energie nicht mehr als Kostenfaktor bei Proof-of-Work Algorithmen...

Denn jetzt schon ist Strom in Deutschland teilweise Kostenlos  bzw. Im Minus bereich.

![1000095221.jpg](https://images.hive.blog/DQmbPSDm6UZHgBnh8XD3FrRKQoQYgQhZvYAYuhmnwcVeAZB/1000095221.jpg)

Für private Angreifer ist eine 51-%-Attacke auf eines dieser Netzwerke, wie Bitcoin oder Ethereum, zu teuer geworden. Aber seien wir ehrlich: Es wird Zeit, die rosarote Brille abzusetzen!

Wenn die Staaten tatsächlich auf Kryptowährungen wie Bitcoin oder Ethereum Einfluss nehmen wollen, müssen sie nur über Interpol nach Vitalik Buterin fahnden, der Ethereum in Berlin ins Leben gerufen hat.

Oder nach den Bitcoin-Maintainern, die die Schlüssel zur Bitcoin-Blockchain kontrollieren.

🔧 Anzahl der aktuellen Maintainer
Es gibt zwischen fünf und sechs Maintainer – das hängt davon ab, ob man Rollen wie „Lead Maintainer“ mit einbezieht 

Nach dem Rücktritt von Langzeit-Maintainer Wladimir van der Laan (Februar 2023) sind es 5 aktive Maintainer 

🤝 Wer sind sie?
Laut offizieller Liste aus Dezember 2022 und aktuellen Berichten (Februar 2023):

Marco Falke – General & QA

fanquake – General & Build System

hebasto – General & UI/UX

achow101 – General & Wallet

glozow (Gloria Zhao) – General & Mempool/Validation

Zeitgleiche Angaben in Medien nennen fünf aktive:

Hennadii Stepanov – GUI

Michael Ford – Build System

Andrew Chow – Wallet

Marco Falke – Testing/QA

Gloria Zhao – Mempool/Validation


Mein persönliches Fazit: Für Hacker ist es wahrscheinlich schwieriger Ethereum zu Hacken , für Staaten wird es schwierig alle Maintainer von Bitcoin gleichzeitig unter Druck zu setzen. 

Aber was wäre wenn die Identität von Satoshi Nakamoto tatsächlich bekannt wäre? 🤔 Vielleicht morgen dazu mehr...

Ich zitierte aus folgenden Artikeln...

https://www.btc-echo.de/schlagzeilen/51-prozent-attacke-bei-bitcoin-praktisch-sicher-207701/

https://de.finance.yahoo.com/nachrichten/sam-altman-verr%C3%A4t-chatgpt-stromverbrauch-174158662.html?guccounter=1

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Crypto entrepreneur Grant Hummer is causing a stir with a post on X. He says that Bitcoin is "completely screwed because of its security budget." He estimates the cost of a 51 percent attack on the leading cryptocurrency at just $8 billion.

According to the Ethereum proponent, these will continue to decline in the future, so that a corresponding attack "will almost certainly occur" at a cost of only ***around $2 billion.***

>A 51 percent attack occurs when a single entity or group controls more than half of a blockchain's mining or staking power, thereby gaining control over the network.

Justin Drake, the architect of the Ethereum merge, also says that it would be *"much cheaper*" to launch a 51 percent attack on Bitcoin than on Ethereum. He estimates the cost of Ethereum to be around $10 billion.

Drake highlighted another advantage he believes Ethereum has: *"If there is a 51% attack, the social layer can identify the attacker and destroy them. This is a superpower of Proof-of-Stake that Proof-of-Work doesn't have."*

Hassan Khan, CEO of Bitcoin liquidity protocol Ordeez, explains that
*"the debate about the feasibility of a 51% attack remains open—largely because, although theoretically possible, the hurdles in practice are extremely high."*

He said that with the reserve cryptocurrency, the necessary amount of computing power and energy "*makes a sustained attack highly unlikely,"* while Ethereum's consensus mechanism **introduces additional economic and governance obstacles."*

Now, to add to this, Sam Altman, CEO of ChatGPT, writes in a blog post...

>Altman wrote that he expects energy to be used in the 2030s. Energy and the limits of human intelligence have long been "fundamental limiters of human progress," Altman continued. "As data center production becomes automated, the cost of artificial intelligence should eventually approach the cost of electricity," he wrote.

So, from 2030 onward, energy will no longer be considered a cost factor for proof-of-work algorithms...

Even now, electricity in Germany is partly free or even negative.

![1000095221.jpg](https://images.hive.blog/DQmbPSDm6UZHgBnh8XD3FrRKQoQYgQhZvYAYuhmnwcVeAZB/1000095221.jpg)

For private attackers, a 51% attack on one of these networks, such as Bitcoin or Ethereum, has become too expensive. But let's be honest: It's time to take off the rose-colored glasses!

If governments really want to influence cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or Ethereum, all they have to do is search Interpol for Vitalik Buterin, who founded Ethereum in Berlin.

Or for the Bitcoin maintainers who control the keys to the Bitcoin blockchain.

🔧 Number of current maintainers
There are between five and six maintainers – it depends on whether you include roles like "lead maintainer."

After the resignation of long-time maintainer Wladimir van der Laan (February 2023), there are now five active maintainers.

🤝 Who are they?
According to the official list from December 2022 and current reports (February 2023):

MarcoFalke – General & QA

fanquake – General & Build System

hebasto – General & UI/UX

achow101 – General & Wallet

glozow (GloriaZhao) – General & Mempool/Validation

Contemporaneous media reports name five active ones:

HennadiiStepanov – GUI

MichaelFord – Build System

AndrewChow – Wallet

MarcoFalke – Testing/QA

GloriaZhao – Mempool/Validation

My personal conclusion: It will probably be more difficult for hackers to hack Ethereum, and it will be difficult for states to put pressure on all Bitcoin maintainers simultaneously.

But what if Satoshi Nakamoto's identity were actually known? 🤔 Maybe more on this tomorrow...

I quoted from the following articles...

https://www.btc-echo.de/schlagzeilen/51-prozent-attacke-bei-bitcoin-praktisch-sicher-207701/

https://de.finance.yahoo.com/nachrichten/sam-altman-verr%C3%A4t-chatgpt-stromverbrauch-174158662.html?guccounter=1

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@borsengelaber · 2025-06-20T04:58:54+00:00

$0.11

Ich denke da wird eine Menge FUD zusammen gequirlt. Der Markt hat bereits entschieden welches System das bessere ist, aber klar wollen die ETH Leute das nicht so einfach hinnehmen. Genau wie Hoskinson lange immer wieder behauptet hat, Cardano wäre soviel besser. Jetzt will er selbst eine Bitcoin Reserve aufbauen.

👍 der-prophet

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@der-prophet · 2025-06-20T05:07:12+00:00

$0.03

Bei solchen Aussagen ist auch immer etwas Wahrheit dabei. Man sollte egal bei welcher Investition, keine rosarote Brille aufsetzen.

👍 borsengelaber

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@borsengelaber · 2025-06-20T05:13:48+00:00

$0.11

Das stimmt. Ich halte mich an Fakten. Und wenn es ein gravierendes, nachweisliches Risiko bei Bitcoin gäbe würde das klar eingepreist werden.

👍 der-prophet

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@elias22 · 2025-06-19T23:59:24+00:00

$0.10

Could electricity costs lose their role as a security barrier in Proof-of-Work systems? That’s an intriguing and potentially worrying possibility.

👍 der-prophet, alucian

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@ferod23 · 2025-06-21T03:19:12+00:00

$0.12

It is difficult to hack both Bitcoin and Ethereum for additional security reasons that their respective blockchains must have.

👍 der-prophet, hjrrodriguez

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@hjrrodriguez · 2025-06-21T12:09:24+00:00

$0.10

Every day it will be much more difficult to try to hack because different projects are trying to protect themselves very well to avoid all the inconveniences of a multi-million dollar market and which is expected to continue growing in the coming years.

👍 der-prophet

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@lee1938 · 2025-06-19T21:44:06+00:00

$0.05

https://x.com/lee19389/status/1935815777610805274
#hive #posh

👍 der-prophet, alucian

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@redditposh · 2025-06-19T19:27:51+00:00

$1.80

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kryptostrassenwetten/comments/1lfjp1q/ist_bitcoin_oder_ethereum_sicherer_vor_einer/
<sub> This post has been shared on Reddit by  @wissenskrieger through the [HivePosh](https://hiveposh.com/) initiative.</sub>

👍 ocdb, acidyo, der-prophet, poshtoken, nomnomnomnom, apoloo1, justinw

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@tahirmuneer · 2025-06-20T15:18:21+00:00

$0.11

https://x.com/jewellery_all/status/1936081137149075859
#hive

👍 der-prophet

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@thehockeyfan-at · 2025-06-19T20:58:45+00:00 (edited)

$0.21

Keiner kennt die Zukunft und das sind lauter Geschichten die darauf aufbauen, wenn das passiert dann tritt das und das ein, oder in 5 oder 10 Jahren wird dies und jenes passieren.
Für mich ist das reines PR Geplänkel wie der Wahlkampf in der Politik, weil es eben keiner wissen kann was in 5 oder 10 Jahren ist.
!BEER

👍 der-prophet, alucian

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@der-prophet · 2025-06-19T21:09:15+00:00

$0.04

Das ist vollkommen richtig. Aber man sollte auch über diese Szenarien sich Gedanken machen.  Es kann jederzeit vorbei sein mit der Sicherheit von Kryptowährungen. 

Allerdings bin ich überzeugt das Kryptowährungen gewollt sind, sonst hätten die mächtigen Staaten diese Währungsexperimente schon längst beendet.

👍 thehockeyfan-at, alucian

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@thehockeyfan-at · 2025-06-19T23:58:51+00:00

$0.66

Mein Ansatz ist, dass ich mir über nichts Gedanken mache was ich ohnehin nicht ändern kann und schon gar nicht über irgendwelche Prognosen, nur darüber wie ich mich eventuell davor schützen kann, wenn mich etwas persönlich betreffen sollte.
Passieren kann viel, von Verboten bis zu einem Sonnensturm dass alles zusammenbricht who knows. 🤷‍♂

Gewollt weis ich nicht, aber zumindest bei Bitcoin haben sie den Moment verpasst wo es noch zu stoppen gewesen wäre, auch wenn da ein paar Ethereum Hanseln etwas anderes behaupten.
Dann sollen sie es halt versuchen, die paar Milliarden sind ja heutzutage in unserer Fiat Welt eh fast gar nichts mehr. 😉

Und mit dem anderen Kryptozeugs kann man in Zukunft (zumindest eine Zeitlang) viel verdienen bei der Masse, da schaut die Finanzindustrie schon darauf dass ihre Laiendarsteller in der Politik nicht zu viel Blödsinn machen.

👍 bleujay, der-prophet, abbak7, zekepickleman, alucian

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@zuliquijada22 · 2025-06-19T20:22:45+00:00

$0.12

Perhaps it is a way in which they want to distract a little so that fewer future investors trust Bitcoin and do so in another Altcoin or return to fiat money, which I do not believe enthusiasts will do and will remain firm in gathering many more in the future.

👍 der-prophet, hjrrodriguez

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