Youtube is a centralized platform. It belongs to the establishment. I'm not amazed by their decision while Hive is of a different breed. I wouldn't mind if Hive would hard fork auto votes away... but that's the business side of it.

As long as it helps our community, fairly, I see nothing wrong with having downvotes. Sure it hurts but we’re adults here. YouTube is so weird.

When I was a active streamer and I made live stream on youtube many people were throwing dislikes for my live stream for fun, because they want buy my attention. Many people in centralized media like to troll other people and I think this is normal behavior for young people. I don't like that, but what I can do as a content creator? When I have like 5 likes and 20 dislikes, because someone from multi accounts just spread so many dislikes in my way to make me sad. In that way they just want make me angry and want me to lost control. Anyway it doesn't matter at all how many dislikes on youtube have content creators, because all like + dislikes just improve analitic stats of the video. In internet is so many hate and much easier is just hit dislike button than like.

Regarding to hive, dislikes aka downvotes maybe are really rare, but this is a tool to getting off value of overvalued post with little effort. It work well. Without that I think many people will use this platform like a steem just for farming rewards with single picture or single sentence, we don't really want see shitty trending page on hive blockchain, because people here want read value content.

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Do the downvotes on Youtube train it's algorithm as to what it suggests in the sidebar?

If yes, and they discovered some people trying to sabotage their competitors, then hiding the scores makes sabotage harder (because the bad actor doesn't know how hard they need to hit the down button).

I too have got down votes in the past but still I am in preference of having the down votes, it is just a way to stop spamming the network.

I don't mind not having a downvote button as it keeps the system balanced if you don't like a post and that views is ore important then anything, Hiding the fact that people don't like it or it isn't a safe topic for the general public this dislike button can help with this.

So yeah always having the choice is better then only one option 

I really think removing the dislike button is an unneeded shelter. If we can't even handle the opinion of others, then we aren't really human anymore. Negative criticism is essential to growth. Without that positive and negative pull, things become stagnant and unbalanced. 

Well that doesn't seem good because if they are removing dislike button then what's the reason of having a like button? That means that we are depriving people of what they think or feel about a crertain thing.

I don't think that downvoting shouldn't be here. Downvote option is good to have as far as users are not abusing it.

Keep up the good work @nathanmars I love every part of your contribution to the hive blockchain to progress and improve than what it is as well.

I personally dont like not having dislikes - it was always a measurement of quality content: bad content had lots of dislikes.
now I dont know :/

youtube is more about control and finding ways to fill their pockets
Its more like keeping something for themselves to monitor and penalise.
Now the user doesn't have any clue on whether the content is appreciated or it was bad.
dislikes atleast tells you that its bad you need to improve.

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I think it only applies to the public. The creators will still be able to see it in their analytic page and I think any serious person would be looking at their analytics. So I don't think it will prevent people from being hit with dislikes and they can't really complain about it unless they are willing to make it public. So I think it definitely works against the creators (small and large).

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As per dislike, I don't know, what I believe is, there can be dislike button without effect and there should also be downvotes too. Which can be dislike with intent.  Downvotes protects the system, so I second it's existence. However when done reasonably it takes away the need for negative effect. As for yotube, the dislike has no effect, plus it doesn't really take away the subjective value of a content posted there. 

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Very beautifully written.  It is often unfortunate that one's own data is stolen from YouTube without permission.  Moreover, many vloggers on YouTube often have nothing to do with the video.  In that case, I think the dislike system is a bit better.  Again, many people just like to dislike.  Of course, I don't really understand Hive's downvote.

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I think it is apples and oranges. The dislike feature on HIVE is a democratic check and balance that can actually eventually hide a post and eventually downgrade an account. In YouTube the number of views seems to dominate the algorithm for popularity. Therefor I like that YouTube removal but don't support it in HIVE.

YouTube's decision is likely driven by money!

Dislikes or downvotes are a part of life. You can’t please everyone. BUT…. The people that use them because they don’t like you, not the content is ridiculous. If you don’t like the content then go ahead and downvote it or dislike it, but I think there should be a mandatory comment required as to why you didn’t like it. Just my opinion

I know some people would like downvotes to go away, but they are essential to deal with inevitable abuse. The situation is different to Youtube as there the company can remove content that breaks the rules. We can just remove rewards. In some cases that can seem cruel, but I have seen plenty where 'rancho' gave a big vote and we know that is controlled by haejin who does not care about the good of Hive. He was driven away after selfishly making a fortune from self voting. If you do get a rancho vote then there is a chance it may be cancelled out to give a better rewards distribution. Meanwhile some other people are allowed to keep much bigger rewards, so it looks unfair. Some of those people have done a lot for Hive and whales may think they deserve payment for it. I do not think it is about keeping small accounts down.

I would not expect to see a radical change to how downvotes work. We can each use our HP as we see fit. I have done my share of downvoting to deal with blatant abuse, but will not generally use it for differences of opinion. Others may have different ideas and they have the freedom to act as they see fit.

It does seem some people do not really understand how Hive is intended to work. There are finite rewards to share out and our votes just allow us to have a say in that. If I make more then others make less and I do not take rewards for granted. 

I think most whales have good intentions for Hive as it is in their interest for it to do well, but some of them are keen to build something special too.

Hive is imperfect and may not seem fair, but where else does everyone have a chance to earn something?