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HF20 Update: Restoring Continuity
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Hello Steemians, it’s been a long few days, but progress is being made and we wanted to provide you with the latest information on where things stand. We understand that people are very frustrated, and we want to assure you that we are working as fast as we can to return the blockchain to the expected level of usability. In this post, we will discuss the patches that we are planning to release tonight which will significantly improve the user experience on Steem, as well as our reasons for choosing this particular path. 

***Update: [Steem v0.20.4 has now been released](https://github.com/steemit/steem/releases/tag/v0.20.4)***

<h1>Priorities</h1>

We have been reviewing issues and developing patches as fast as we can, while evaluating the optimal path forward. The choices we’ve made have been driven by three priorities. The first is **continuity**. Steem users must be able to continue using the blockchain as we transition to a system that ensures fair pricing of resources based on proportionate stake. The second priority is minimizing disruption for businesses and exchanges. The third is ensuring that we can continue to make incremental movement toward the sustainable pricing of operations. 

<h1>Moving Forward</h1>

Based on our analysis, we believe the best path forward is to issue a series of patches tonight, the most significant of which will multiply the resource budgets by 10x. This should guarantee that users will be able to do around 10 times as many operations on the blockchain over the course of 5 days than they are able to now, although this could vary depending on the types of operations. Our #1 priority is continuity, and the root cause of the most glaring issues that users are facing is that the initial resource budgeting was far too limiting. Dramatically increasing the resource budgets is the fastest way to remove those limits and return users to the experiences they are accustomed to. 

An added benefit of this path, as opposed to some of the other options we were considering, is that it would enable exchanges to get up and running as soon as possible. Because the RC plugin is non-consensus, any future updates to that system will likely not require replaying the blockchain, which means they would be able to maintain service throughout the process as we continue to make more updates. 


<h1>Preserving Flexibility</h1>

At the same time, this solution leaves in place the RC system which is already providing us with valuable information about the real pricing of different operations. The strengths and benefits of the RC system remain too significant to risk losing. This path enables us to retain some of these advantages while restoring continuity for users. Due to the fact that many components of the RC system are non-consensus, we can continue to adjust the resource pool budgets, track trends, and adjust charges incrementally over time so that we can meet our third goal of moving us toward sustainable pricing of blockchain operations. This path grants us a degree of flexibility that we did not have with the previous bandwidth system.

<h1>What Happens Next</h1>

These patches will be going out later tonight, at which point we will immediately begin reindexing. That means within 24 hours witnesses can prepare to run the new code and deliver the improved user experience that Steemians want. It is ultimately up to the witnesses to decide whether the code is safe enough to use, however, one of the reasons we chose this particular path is due to the fact that simply multiplying the resource budgets by 10 is a simple fix, and with this simplicity, the code easy to audit. If they choose to adopt this change, user experience could begin improving as soon as tomorrow night. Other significant patches will be included that will address issues like accounts not having enough RCs upon creation and Steem Power delegation not immediately conferring mana. More details on these changes are included below. 

We appreciate you all bearing with us through this challenging experience. No other community on Earth is trying to do what we are all trying to do together and it’s no mystery why: it clearly isn’t easy! Thank you all so much for your feedback and your patience.

_Steem Blockchain Team_


<center>***Technical addendum***</center> 
This is the draft for the 0.20.4 release notes. 

<h1>Issues with fix included in patch 0.20.4:</h1>

- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2974">#2974</a> Parameters set too low, and many users are unable to transact
   - The RC system constrained resources to too great of an extent
   -  We are adjusting parameters for minimal disruption
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2968">#2968</a> Accounts at less than -100% RC cannot regenerate mana
   - If an account was not able to get to positive RC within 5 days, it would not be able to do so at all.
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2961">#2961</a> Powering up / delegating SP does not increase RC
   - Bug: users powering up, were not able to vote/transact instantly
   - Now, receiving SP gives an instant voting mana boost
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2949">#2949</a> Voting power was not carried over properly at HF20
   - Many had their voting power reset to near 0%
   - No code change was made, but everyone's voting power will regenerate to normal levels within the next 3 days
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2971">#2971</a> New accounts with 0 SP only have 3,000 RC
   - This issue was a symptom of other issues that were addressed.
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2942">#2942</a> New witness properties not returned from condenser_api
   - The missing properties were added to the legacy API
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2947">#2947</a> <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2957">#2957</a> <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2962">#2962</a> Condenser_api.get_accounts returning invalid voting_power values
   - The compatibility layer for the old vote power API wasn't properly converting new mana to the older-style vote percent
   - Caused irregular values to be displayed for user's current voting power, making it appear voting was buggier than it was
   - Edge cases have been fixed, now fully compatible with old system 
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2953">#2953</a> Some accounts had negative resource credits at hardfork time
   - Anyone with an active account prior to the hardfork had accumulated debt in the new calculations, unbeknownst to them.
   - We reset negative value account to 0, so they can transact.
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2958">#2958</a> Small accounts did not receive full mana upon the transition.
   - All accounts supposed to have a minimum usable amount of RC
   - This amount was calculated incorrectly, causing insufficient RC
   - Now, most accounts will have a minimum 6M RC instead of 3,000 RC
- <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/2965">#2965</a> Require broadcasting nodes to have RC plugin enabled
    - Using a non-standard configuration for broadcasting nodes could result in transactions not being rejected early
    - To prevent configuration mistakes, RC calculations are enabled by default for any node which broadcasts transactions to the network
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@ajayyy ·
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Multiplying the max RCs by 10 still leaves 5sp accounts with only 1 or 2 comments every 5 days, which is unacceptablly low.
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@d-pend · (edited)
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Should be about 4 comments per day. I know it's frustrating for some but I'd rather people be forced to power up a little if they want to use Steemit as their main social media platform. Scarcity creates value.

I wonder if it will really help that much with spam though; a lot of the resteem services get big delegations. Still, hopefully they won't be able to pump out so much memo spam.
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@dobartim · (edited)
I agree
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@investingpennies · (edited)
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I echo the sentiments here.  Steemit is not a free lunch but a helping hand for those who wish to help themselves.  Those who wish to partake in the platform ought to have a vested interest and incentive in powering up some steem in order to increase their own capabilities.  

10x the current capacity seems fair to me, although personally i would have liked to have seen a tiered system... ex 200x for those with less than 25sp, 10x for those above, etc.
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@nigelmarkdias · (edited)
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> I know it's frustrating for some but I'd rather people be forced to power up a little if they want to use Steemit as their main social media platform.
@d-pend

#### _This is one reason why I do not use  @Steemit as [my core content platform.](https://steemkr.com/steemit/@nigelmarkdias/why-i-still-use-blogger-medium-wordpress-youtube-and-instagram-inspite-of-steemit-dtube-and-steepshot)_
##### _In the universe that  I live in there is:_
* [Medium](https://medium.com/social-ecommerce/beyond-content-creation-compensation-30e2ae2f682c)
* [Blogger](https://thelocalsearchblog.blogspot.com/2018/03/what-if-your-social-media-could-dance.html)
* [Tumblr](http://aboutlocalsearch.tumblr.com/post/178399727766/blockchain-is-not-exempt-from-human-nature-via)
WordPress, Minds..........
#### Will Steemit [continue to be](https://steemit.com/christian-links/@nigelmarkdias/after-hubris-comes-nemesis) the  only _reward for playing platform?_
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@nonameslefttouse · (edited)
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They're not being *forced* to power up, they're being offered an incentive to power up.  

A new member is now offered a ladder to climb, which is smart because a ladder offers direction.  *Up*.  People can work their way *up*, if they so choose.

One solid *introduceyourself* post, if powered up, can what?  Double the amount one can interact with the blockchain?  Maybe, if things go well.  That's a huge step for someone's first day.  

@ajayy, it's not unacceptably low when someone can easily begin to work their way up now.  It's acceptably low if they decide to stay at the bottom.  The choice is theirs.

As I'm reading through the comments and complaints, I'm thinking some people are forgetting everyone here is given an *opportunity* to improve their situation and experience here.  If you think it's too difficult for them, make it easier.  Things like utilizing your own SP to vote rather than delegating it away with the hopes of making a few dollars per week can go a long ways towards more people being able to enjoy this place.
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@sorin.cristescu ·
"scarcity creates value" is true in general but don't take it too literally. It depends how you define the perimeter, hence it doesn't work here. I already have friends I've introduced to Steemit and after 2 articles they tooke their business to trybe.one 

There's scarcity for RC in steemit but there's no need for anyone to socialize on steemit as more or less the same thing can be done on many other platforms (weku and trybe are two of them)
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@valued-customer ·
$0.09
I actually couldn't more strongly disagree with everything in your comment.  

>"Scarcity creates value."

Not when it comes to the free flow of ideas.  Free speech is far more valuable when it's abundance is increased.  

Insofar as new users are unable to comment and post, the market for Steem will be suppressed.  I recommend you give that more thought, and also consider the caliber of communicants you will enjoy who are actually willing to pay to play.  SOC (SMTs, Oracles, and Communities) will work together to enable communities to exclude bots, paid delegations, or any given type of interaction, as well as the opposite.  After some consideration, I expect communities that reflect the actual value of social interaction to perform very well, and those focused on mere mammon to be quite small (if emunerative, potentially).  This is because society is far more valuable than it's mere economic aspects can account.  

Mike Tyson once said that Don King would sell his momma for a dollar.  That's a different kind of valuation than most folks find attractive, although there's clearly folks that value society so.  

I don't mind memo spam at all.  I only claim rewards very occasionally, when I remember to see if I have any, so don't see it.  I admit I'm kinda odd, not caring about my personal finances at all, but I've determined that I'll occupy a box in dirt someday, and won't get to enjoy spending money I've accumulated during life.  So, I do work I like that pays necessary bills, and spend the rest of my days with good people.

If I can take anything into the grave with me, my good memories of good friends will be in there.  

That's more valuable anyway.
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@tcpolymath ·
$0.05
Yeah, this needs to be 100x just to make things work this week.
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@valth ·
$0.05
Yep, that's definitely way too low! If I sign up for a new service, I typically spend a few hours there, making 5-10 comments or something like that. I would probably not be very interested in keeping to use Steem if I had to take a break after only writing 1-2 comments before I would have to wait 5 days.
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@akdx ·
I have just one question-Was hard fork successful?
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@alaisguineasis ·
Thanks
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@albertvhons ·
How many steem a 1Sp account to power up so it could post again? or the minimum SP to post?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in  'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@alihan97 ·
This would make people's post have less than $1 Pls let commenting not be restricted as well as posting. Most people wont be able to handle it
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@aliriera ·
Estoy en capacidad de producir post de calidad. No estoy al tanto de lo que es el manejo técnico de la página. Sólo se que si no logro algún voto, comentario o sbd, la cuestión se hace algo triste. Actúen acorde a lo que conviene a la comunidad.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@almutira ·
is good
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@alokkumar121 ·
though things are not smooth as before after this HF20 but we have full faith on you team and looking forward to see it stable soon. I am not able to post anything but still hopeful that it will be over soon and we all will be able to work smoothly in our lovely platform.  All the best.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@alpence ·
RIP  steem
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@andrew-golyanov ·
I really don't think it's OK to ask people to get 100SP in their accounts to comment. It's like a scheme, seriously.
👍  
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @steemitblog!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steemit Hit Parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20180928) in the following categories:

* Upvotes - Ranked 9 with 236 upvotes
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@arslan786 · (edited)
$0.37
I want you to make steemit reward as weku. 
No matter what tge value of steem is, the rewards should be like weku. This will male more people engage at steemit.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@ats-david ·
$1.40
>It is ultimately up to the witnesses to decide whether the code is safe enough to use, however, one of the reasons we chose this particular path is due to the fact that simply multiplying the resource budgets by 10 is a simple fix, and with this simplicity, the code easy to audit.

It’s interesting that you decide to mention something like this **_after you already dropped such a massive hard fork on everyone._** It is exactly this kind of post hoc pretense of responsibility that irritates a lot of witnesses. 

>If they choose to adopt this change, user experience could begin improving as soon as tomorrow night.

*If they choose...???* Seriously? You drop a buggy fork (with major problems **_you knew about_**), ask for adoption, insinst on no rollback to bandwidth, then pretend that these patches are somehow *optional* while basic user activity is still throttled? 

>No other community on Earth is trying to do what we are...

And rightfully so. Testing known buggy code on production shouldn’t happen. 

We’ll hopefully get this fixed. After that, I think it’s time for STINC to step aside as the lead dev team for this blockchain. At this point, SMTs are a no-go. I’m not even going to entertain that insane proposal from your team, given the many mistakes and complete lack of foresight we’ve all witnessed since last year.
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@battleaxe ·
$0.45
@ats-david   yup

oh and as for top 20 Witnesses offering 'discount' delegation SP to POWER UP is a conflict of interest AT BEST
there seems to be zero ethical compass and when you tout you are a leader then you lead...you APOLOGIZE and you sympathize with those on here like vets and such who needed this money ,  people bitch about fiat and run to puppets,  people who care less if they give millions to hoe bags who dance real pretty and love gourmet food then yank it and fuck it up for communities already established to have been doing good
whatever  
![pffft.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWraeavtZZL5ymUBscLomXK6TT5Nj34mfdpLK87v4zy6m/pffft.gif)
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@battleaxe ·
$0.15
aggrandizing for us plebs
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@reverendrum ·
$0.15
This is a trying time, a time where we need champions like you. People's Champions. I truly hope your shining example of speaking up resonates with this community, a decentralized community of powerful, free thinkers who won't have the wool pulled over their eyes. (I hope I have enough RP or mana or whatever other nonsense needed to post this comment!)
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@miryam ·
$0.98
Thank you @ats-david.

Some of us have been doing damage control for the last few days, for a group of multi-millionaires who can't seem to be bothered. Personally, I'm over it. Steem is a viable blockchain but Steemit can burn to the ground for all I care.

I notice @ned's mana and RC are both at 100% though. Which begs quite a few questions ...
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@ned · (edited)
I began mentioning it much more strongly prior to the hardfork when some Witnesses began admitting they hadn’t read the release notes and some top 20 Witnesses only began testing two days prior to the proposed HF. Ask Lukestokes or Reggaemuffin who began prompting Witnesses for their published standards and when.

Going forward speaking loudly to the definitions of the contiuents of Steem governance and their roles, especially going into SMTs and other innovation, is absolutely critical. Without stoic Gatekeeping from our Witnesses, the governance is weak. Without Gatekeepers holding devs accountable to Gatekeeper’s standards, or more importantly, without standards, deliverables are under tested. Without Stakeholders of users and businesses holding Gatekeepers accountable, Gates remain low. We need to raise the Stakeholders voice and raise the Gates and raise the demands for optimal approach to development, which should show itself in aggregate of Witnesses’ standards. Personally as a stakeholder I want from this governance a robust combination of conservative process with consistent drive toward innovative development. There are certainly marked improvements to make here in the short term.

Posted from my iPhone. Please excuse omissions, errors or grammatical mistakes.
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@brianphobos ·
$0.58
I want to congratulate you @ned .   People wouldn't comment or even waste their time if they didn't care.   There have been some really cool things the STEEM blockchain has accomplished and it has been an interesting experiment.   

What has been created here is hard to replicate.   It is far too expensive and requires too much funding for people to easily build their own platforms to "fix" the issues here.  If it was easy everyone would do it.   

That all being said the platform has frustrated us for over two years.  It doesn't really improve it just changes.   The same scenarios continue to exist that the distribution was an absolute joke and for the most part the witness situation is a complete joke and always has been.

This blockchain has probably made about 50 people more successful than they were before.  Everyone else has been stuck in a frustrating time trap.   

### Congratulations @ned ..... you won

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@darkflame ·
I am excited to see where 1 million accounts takes us. I remember when you were on TV talking about Steem at 100,000 users. Keep on @ned you are doing great! I am looking forward to SMTs
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@davemccoy · (edited)
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This is great that you read one comment.  I hope you read the rest.  If you want to make improvements, then it is imperative.  

Also I love that you know that you are a stakeholder.  I hope you also recognize that your customers on Steemit are stakeholders too.  And if you do, then as the leader of this organization it is your duty to address the issues many of the Steemit users will be facing with this new implementation.
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@doomsdaychassis ·
$0.31
And the true shame of it all is that we as steemians can do nothing about the witness situation. As we all know @freedom is a mega account and has allmost all the top 20 witnesses propped up there with his vote. Hell even @aggroed wrote an article about it.
https://steemit.com/freedom/@aggroed/the-twelve-million-dollar-miner-who-is-freedom
maybe in the next hard fork we could address that account so that the rest of us actually have any power to choose witnesses that want to do the job, not just sit in a top 20 spot and line their pockets. If what you say is true about them only testing 2 days ahead of time that is just shamefull and they should be fired by the people. I guess the obvious answer would be "well it is his stake and he can do as he wishes, If you don't like it doomsday then stop being a peasant." As long as witnesses are complacent because they have the @freedom vote in their back pocket we are all stuck with them no matter how hard we try to leverage them out.
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@doomsdaychassis ·
$0.76
Oh what the hell I will burn some resource credits linking to this brilliant piece [right here](https://steemit.com/steemit/@paulag/unmasking-freedom-what-the-data-can-tell-us-steemit-business-intelligence) by another deserving witness @paulag who will never have the chance to get to top 20 because she does not have the vote from freedom and that all but seals her fate to live outside the top 20 no matter what she does. Please help us @ned . This is a way to fix steemit. Also how many RC does it take to eit because I had to do a new comment because it was saying I did not have enough credits to edit a comment but I can make a whole new one. 

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@mykos ·
$2.97
I wrote you a nice letter Ned Scott. A way to solve all these problems and usher us into a new golden age. You ignored my letter and now this thread resembles the french revolution.
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@nigelmarkdias · (edited)
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#### _[At your desk, Ned](https://steemit.com/steemit/@nigelmarkdias/at-your-desk-ned-2018-09-29-09-48-01)_
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@sapphic ·
$0.19
@ned I'm shaking my head

Lemme get this straight, you need rigorous gatekeeping witnesses to stop the shitty code  changes, yet there are sweet fanny Adams that understand the code in its entirety

Inherently you are outsourcing  code QA to people that  are paid for their services by the output of that code.

And that looks like a serious conflict of interest. 

Oh and vote for my witness if you want change 😂
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@sircork · (edited)
$0.59
Disappears for months, Shows up to point fingers at everyone but the team that has millions of dollars to spend on resources which are the "gatekeepers". Would flag for self aggrandizement, but I don't want to consume my precious RC on it and I can't afford it anyway, because I was using my power to help users all morning on other threads. Trying to retain some of them before this place goes completely ghost town over crap decisions and poor execution by the aristocracy, that fails at meritocracy.
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@stellabelle · (edited)
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Dear Ned, Everyone has lost. If there was a time to apologize and show a tiny bit of empathy now would be it. Upvoting for aggrandizement of Resource Credits Depletion Action.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@tcpolymath ·
$0.48
Hi, @ned, I don't know if you're reading these or not, a lot of people have some pretty hostile responses here and while I feel them I couldn't blame you for feeling like this was going nowhere. However, I have a suggestion for addressing some of these issues, and I hope you'll consider it.

Part of the problem here is that witness rewards aren't tied into testing, code review, and so on. And I believe that they shouldn't be - there are different skillsets required for being a good dev and a good witness. But that means that sufficient testing of the hardforks is unrewarded, which is why no one was doing it.

I propose that we set up a Utopian-like system, supported with SP from Steemit Inc. and the top witnesses, specifically for Steem blockchain development. New code, code review, unit testing, bug reports, testnet experiences, and so on could all be done publicly through posts and rewarded through votes, so that instead of every witness having to do a private review of code that is scattered through github, there would be a reviewable public record of the testing that was being done, and more importantly, everyone could contribute to it. This would provide the incentive for more extensive testing that the current system is lacking without putting additional burden on witnesses, or requiring that any dev who wants to be compensated for that work also run a witness.

This would provide the witnesses with a collection of data they could more easily review, and expertise from a larger group of people reviewing the actual code and supplying their expertise, before making their decision to accept an update. It would also put their information-state on a par with the rest of the community's, so we would not be assuming that the job was being done in the background.
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@tygertyger · (edited)
@ned If you want real change it is simple give every steemian equal voting power on such important matters such as witness votes ect.  like this people who actually earn the trust of the users get the power not some entitled  sponsored idiots who could not bother to test or read ...
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@underground ·
Welp, I tell ya, @ned... that is why I am working on this thing here that I call the "Dolphin Council" and we are working on making the role "Witness" equivalent and now that I am both, it is morphing into a combination council.  I do not pretend to be the "leader" of this new group, but at this time I am guiding the charter of it.  Your "gatekeepers" speech above gives me some great ideas for the Council.  Thanks. 
As you may have noticed,  Many or Most of the new witnesses are mid-level folks,  which is a good deal.   New Blood, fresh ideas,  different perspectives.  The "DC" hopes to mirror this new(er) Steem Demographic and "inject" these traits into the Blockchain. 
> Personally as a stakeholder I want from this governance a robust combination of conservative process with consistent drive toward innovative development. There are certainly marked improvements to make here in the short term.

Could not have said it better myself, but that sums up a lot of my feelings about the "State Of Steem"...
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@programmingvalue ·
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That's a good point, they should definitely test the code in a non-production environment first. Does Steem have a test net?
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@transisto ·
You seems to think that STINC blocking the way by being the lead dev team. 
You might want to find replacements before firing someone.
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@ats-david ·
I’m currently reviewing résumés. :)
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@writtenments ·
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@ausbitbank ·
$0.06
Thanks for the update. I've audited the <a href="https://github.com/steemit/steem/compare/5da440e..042dc59">most recent changes</a> and have started deploying the updates across my nodes now.
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@clixmoney ·
Thanks a lot for your hard work, I just voted for you as a witness recently. I will update my votes once a month and let all the witnesees know about that. I'm very positive about this hard fork and I see it the best one for now. You can check my post about it if you like [The positive side of Hard Fork 20 !](https://steemit.com/dtube/@clixmoney/2l7bulix).
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@writtenments ·
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@bashadow ·
$0.08
I am going to waste some RC's here.

Go back **two years** look at your comments about **HF17**.
Look at how much talk there was about ***The LEVEL of Engagement***.
The complaining about a **LACK OF COMMENTS** on post. 
Is that what people want to go back to? No **Comments** only votes?
Because I wanted my RC to rebuild a little bit I tried to refrain from commenting very much today. So I looked back in history. Initially I wanted to learn a little bit more about @berniesanders and someone named @nogono or something like that.  Couldn't find anything, but I did learn a lot about bernie, he used to to not downvote. I only found a couple of downvotes from him in his earlier days, he was back then like now still concerned with steemit, and like now as then he still got pissed at idiots using #steemit tag for a lot of their post. He also like the photography tag. The point is, look at and learn from history or you end up repeating it.  Try looking at page 1500 of his on steemd, and 1475 and 1600. I think it was page 1500 that I found a post he either commented on or made, I don't recall exactly, but there was a lot of talk about HF17 and lack of comments and lack of overall engagement. I even learned that Stan Larimar is Dan's dad and has an account on here. Still active also. 

The individuals that participate in Asher's league of Engagement are the kind of people that you were looking for two years ago. now you want us to go away, to not comment and to only vote your shit post because along with not being able to comment people are not going to be able to post.

You want to fix and equalize the comments and find the quality in steemit, then talk to people like @abh12345, and @thedarkhorse (@pifc), they got a lot of people to comment and engage and to find quality content among the new users. 

I will be unable to respond to any comments made to this comment, courtesy of the HF20 designers and testers. May in 48 hours, but then I will have higher priority message to respond to I am sure.
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@abh12345 ·
Personally, I think these posts are the best place to be 'wasting' RCs at present 😊

My gut feeling was that the numbers were not going to be spot on first time around.  A 10x increase in RCs is a start, and there may be more to come.  The balance between cutting the legs off the abusers, and allowing the good to engage freely is tough, but im hopeful that with the community feeding back, this will be achieved.

It may be that 'we' need to support, as many do at present, young, promising accounts with delegation - I am happy to that if it means less crap on the network.

As far as the Leagues go, this week will go ahead as usual.  I have been 'concerned' recently with comments that would he be better served over the phone and on discord.  Ideally, less of these and more inclusive remarks, which allow others to join in a conversation, will be the output of these changes.

Cheer man, have a good day.
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@haphazard-hstead ·
It would have been nice for the RC-developers to track the work of your League of Engagement with a pseudo-RC to estimate resource usage and develop initial parameters. It seems like their initial setup was designed to reward future blockchain uses, rather existing social platform activity. 

There's a part of me that knows this was always in the white paper, that is, the social platform not being a priority in the long run. But it's still hard to see. For folks that built up their SP, it could be good financially as some blockchain projects pan out, but it still is a shame to lose the sense of community and connections with people we've gotten to know and appreciate.
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@indigoocean ·
$0.02
I resonate with your patience with giving RCs a chance to adjust, and the need for a system like them for SMTs to work in HF21. However, I just discovered that new users only get delegated 5SP now. Also that the 10x is by the pool, not by the person.

That means that even "round 2" of the RC allotments will still mean new users can only comment or post once per day! And that's if they get the full 10x. More likely that distribution will also be top heavy. 

That's outrageous. Clearly we need to skip the 10x and go straight to 100x, and instead of making it go by current RC/SP, have it be an inverse relationship. I honestly don't need a 10x, though I'd appreciate my VP/mana coming back over 80%. But I will likely get more than 10x. And lots of people who can't possibly comment/post as much as their current RC allows (which for me right now is more than 100 per day of each, pah!) will now get more. Meanwhile the plankton still will not be able to hardly function.

Please urge who you can urge to skip 10x and go to 100x now. We can adjust based on system feedback after that for round 3 of RC algo adjustments.

And let's move away from this idea of how much SP you have being what determines if you're a spammer all together. There is no relation between the two. If RCs will be used to cost actions, which makes sense, then new users should be given enough to behave normally, which is more like 20 comments per day. A spammer can't succeed with only 20 comments per day, but a normal person can.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@beingtheuniverse ·
![Got Appreciation-web.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmVDtMErite3cBqFyRPKyw86TaR9oHRgwFU5fqVs9SQtXB/Got%20Appreciation-web.jpg)

As messy and challenging as this update turned itself out to be, that much it was able to provide important insights into the system and how it functions. It is for that reason that my gratefulness for being part of it outweighs my frustration over the temporary limbo-esque creation mayhem. As an amoeba, there is only gratitude here. I see the opportunities arising out of this valuable change of modus operandi.
Thank You very much, Mahalo nui loa and Muchas gracias from Uruguay,

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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@bethalea ·
I call bullshit. Do better. We're all basically working for YOU to have a site that's worth a shit.

Sack up. Quit whining.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@bigdeej ·
Nice play con artist! Good play! Powering down and moving on! You will loose 100,000s of SP from this and get nothing but leaches who bitch at you for not earning while you extract the last few dollars left in the platform! Good job!

Because you can post does not mean things are fixed... IF you want to see SCALE ( new users) you are not going to.. If you want to watch half the userbase who is active and has over HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of SP leave (like me) by all means call it "fixed"... You all will be there with @ned alone and the bulk of us moved on.. You think making this reply cost you anything on FACEBOOK funny you don't reply on steem.... WHY NOT?? Oh right now it costs you RC to post on steem! But RC = VP which is your EARNINGS!!! So now you have to decide.. Should I follow 3 people OR up vote 3 things and earn money... Well logic dictates you will like 3 things and 0 follows... WHAT A GREAT social platform that is... ENCOURAGE selfish behavior... BY ALL MEANS if you want to debate this do.. But as you stated you just want to blindly follow @ned and believe this is good for you while people with over 100k SP leave lol! But hey I'm sure they will replace me with people who have 12 SP.. You only need 100,000 of them ROFL! GOOD LUCK!

New users lol you are insane if anyone like me who actually attracts new users is going to keep helping! We are leaving or forking! You fucked us! We are done @ned! No wonder @dan left!
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@ajayyy ·
Hey, while I agree there are many issues, I think you have misunderstood the situation. RCs are not the same thing as VP, they are different. RCs are just the new name for bandwidth and you lose  VP independently from RCs
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@bigdeej ·
$0.56
NO ONE is going to join now and people like me are LEAVING! Good job @steem @ned and @steemitblog you DESTROYED the platform! You made it so simply POWERING UP costs RC which as i explained is your VP now.. So you have a choice... Follow someone OR up vote to earn money.. Update your profile OR up vote yourself.. Well i choose just to up vote myself now and show just how shitty this upgrade is... 2 can play at this game while i wait 13 WEEKS for my steem to become liquid again! You change the rules overnight yet I have to wait 13 weeks to cash out? SCAM! You botched the upgrade last week and had a false start leading to 37 hours of down time and we are told just wait it out... SCAM! We are told this week oh just wait 5 days and it will be okay... SCAM! All you have done this last 2 weeks is BREAK steem, BOTCH every upgrade (5 now in 9 days) and prove why @dan left! You are an INSULT to developers and should be ashamed of yourselves! FUCK YOU!
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@nonameslefttouse ·
$0.04
Hi.  Before you leave, would you mind heading over to the *introduceyourself* tag and hitting up a few of those noob posts from time to time?

Though it appears they've applied a patch to help remedy the issues, I still feel these new people could use that little extra boost.  Every vote will count towards them being able to enjoy themselves here and by the sounds of it, you care about them, so it would be greatly appreciated if you could help.

Thanks!
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@funbobby51 ·
have you joined WEKU yet?
https://deals.weku.io/pick_account?referral=funbobby51
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@beingtheuniverse ·
I just did. Even though I am still a bit unsure what it actually constitutes after reading the Terms&Conditions. But when the thunderstorms have receded I will explore it. Thanks for the referral. @beingtheuniverse
👍  
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@isacoin ·
hey @ned you should check @bigdeej scam group shadowbot 

100's of  inactive accounts using @steem delegation giving free votes
https://shadowbot.us/shadowbot/casters.php
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
# Life is all about the better choices.  
So, first, we must ask which choices we have at the moment in the real world. We can think about alternatives to Steemit, like Gab, Minds, Bitchute, Real Video, and we can try them.

# We can help them. 
By the way, here is a secret, RC does not steal SP, SBD, or Steem from your own wallet. Instead, SP increases your RC. 

# Paper Steemit Mario
When you use RC, it then replenishes like Heart Power (HP) in Paper Mario. We can talk about making Steemit and other websites, other things better. 
# Gab Over Steemit or Minds, etc? Competition? 
In some ways, Gab is better than Steemit as it is faster to post, share, and profit from premium content where you sell your posts to your subscribers. But Steemit is the best for long-term Steem earning which can later be exchanged for Bitcoin, etc. 

# Steemit Sunshine? Where? 
Yeah, Steemit has problems, but together, we are trying to make it better. If there are places that are a lot better than Steemit, please tell us. Together, we either make Steemit better and/or other places better. Should there be comment and posting limits? 

# Original Oatmeal from Oregon? 
Maybe, I'm thinking. I'm Oatmeal. I'm sympathizing, empathizing, with what you say and kind of agree that I kind of don't like RC but I understand that websites, technology, servers, etc, cost money. So, what can we do to pay the witnesses? Gofundme? Soros Pay Pal?
👍  
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@littlejoeward ·
I'm not trying to summon your wrath or anything just an honest question. :) What do you mean by "But RC = VP which is your EARNINGS!!!" Are you just saying that you won't be able to vote if you are low on RC? Because your voting power is not the same as your resource credits. They recharge separately.
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
👎  
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@bil.prag ·
could anyone give me a link explaining **dust votes**. and did something changed about them? thanks
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@binkyprod ·
First patch: YASSSS! I wasn't able to post at all the other day, and now my RCs are moving up slowly at a snail's pace. While some days I'll be absent if I'm super busy, I tend to upvote a lot, comment a lot , post a couple times a day, typically. I consider myself a relatively active Steemian and there are time when this increases significantly. I think increasing the limit x10 is an excellent move, particularly for active users like me. It woudl be cool for it to replenish more quickly, I understand that it words the way it works, but a boost head start would be nice if it's possible (just suggesting). 

When you talk about delegated SP not conferring, is that for the person receiving the delegation or the person delegating? And how is it not conferring at the moment? I wasn't aware there was a change in that regards.

The regeneration is very slow right now. After almost two full days, I'm still below 50% and only posted a couple of times, very few comments and fewer upvotes. I've been scarcely on these days. I saw one note for the fix mention regeneration, but I don't know if it will make it that mana regenerates more quickly. I'd suggest considering that if it wasn't already on you list of possible fixes.

With HF20, is there a change to the time restriction for comments, of 20 seconds? Sometimes I reply to a comment made to me, in a few seconds, and then read another short comment, and I want to acknowledge that person too, but it's sooner than 20 seconds. Just inquiring, but I'm not too bothered by that, I just reply a lot of "Thank you"s quickly sometimes.

You guys are doing great work. There are always bugs and fixes and patches with big updates. Just look at SWTOR hahaha Every new patch creates a bunch of bugs that require fixing in an update a few days later.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@blockurator ·
It seems like voting power is regenerating faster than RCs, which I don't have a problem with, but I'm still below 25%. Yesterday, I was below 25% VP but now over 60%. So I've increased in VP by over 100% and in the same time have increased RCs by, maybe, 20%. At this rate, I won't be at full RC in a long time.
👍  
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@bobreedo ·
My promoted post disappeared with 4 days remaining.
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@valued-customer ·
Hmmm.  Here's an email:

legal@steemit.com

Hope that helps.
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@bryan-imhoff · (edited)
Aside from the too low starting point... is the RC system currently adjusting calculations properly? In other words, are action costs coming down as @holger80 has been tracking, and how low is the expectation they could eventually go? This system needed to drastically reduce the number of SP required for a basic user experience as Steem is scarce! If we haven’t hit that, large scale use of the Steem blockchain beyond a few million users isn’t yet possible.
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@themanwithnoname ·
> is the RC system currently adjusting calculations properly?

No, it hasn't adjusted, at least not for comments. This response is still costing me 14.2 *billion* credits to let you know that the price per comment has stayed the same. 

![image.png](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmaGMhrdcLeMJ6pcKAxdknx8sJiWosLm3kBvyNxEcwrRsj)
Source: [Steemd](https://steemd.com/@themanwithnoname)
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@bryan-imhoff ·
The Steemd numbers don’t seem to be very dynamic, they’ve been showing the same all day. @holger80 was tracking minor decreases across most actions from minute to minute, and I assume steemd may only update daily.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@bscrypto ·
$0.17
This just sucks because I am loosing money not selling any votes on smartsteem... not really sure why, but I hope it gets worked out soon.
👍  
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@calatorulmiop ·
The idea of RCs is awesome, the implementation.... left a lot to be desired.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@chalidteuku ·
the Best!
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@chelsea88 ·
$0.04
I've been on here 15+ months never heard of "mana"
Wtf  is mana?????
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@nigelmarkdias ·
$0.22
I'm not clear myself, @chelsea88
Here's what I found from  @therealwolf on _mana._
#### _[Some clarity on Resource Credits and Voting Mana](https://steemit.com/steem/@therealwolf/some-clarity-on-resource-credits-and-voting-mana)_
Does this help?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@cjsdns ·
하드 포크20에 실망을 어떻게 추스려
나가야 할지 모르겠습니다.

아직도 베타 딱지를 못 떼어 내는 이유가 이제는 이해가 됩니다.
내가 보기에는 기술진에 실력이 있는 사람을 충원하고 좀더 애정어린 관심이 필요해 보입니다.

좀더 분발하시기 바랍니다.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@crepzi ·
Now that’s cool
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@crypt0-cats ·
Nice work, team :D
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@cryptkeeper17 · (edited)
$0.04
The problem here with #hf20 is the comedic nature and the massive number of hoops that were jumped through to ignore the commonly known ills of the platform.  They are mainly self-interest and will of people to retain their equity in the platform as they gain it, and find ways that they can game the system. 
***The problem is the HF-20 is a Rube Goldberg Machine.***  Not familiar what that is or maybe heard of it but it's bugging you what exactly again it was?  Here is an example...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404721000991817740/495368390060277771/Z.png

***Had this fork done virtually nothing but instituted SMTs and made this platform compatible to get half SP half chosen SMT of the poster's wish*** the economy would be less insulated and then value would eventually would have to be created, or the same tokens would be getting pushed around, and the garbage posters would be missing out in upping their status on the platform of up to half of their payments (if they choose to operate in garbage tokens they issue themselves), and eventually become a dinosaur as the people who providing things of value (using @steemmonsters as a prime example of that).  With their own SMT, @steemmonsters could use the upside of the Steem token in getting half payouts in SP, and half payouts in their own SMT.  Those would carry much more value than the garbage tokens that would come out and have to prove themselves as ***valued to the will of the community and can grow at that type of pace.***  Rather than being tethered to the same economy that is based solely on the buying of bids from concentrated pools of wealth because that is virtually the only way people who are new to here know how to gain a positive footing.  But instead we have countless new moving parts all over the place, and eventually (allegedly) will make this a SMT friendly place.  I will say this again as I have said until I have become blue in the face...  
***...either Steemit comes up with a fork that has full-blown SMT compatibility very soon, or it will be made obsolete by a blockchain platform that may be half as good with all other dapps, or whatever creations that become because we do not have the byteballs to make the decision to fix the Steemit economy the easy way, versus the Rube Goldberg Machine that just came out.***
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@davemccoy ·
$0.05
I love the analogy of the Rube Goldberg Machine... I think its worse because it makes that napkin actually give you the flu too because its contaminated.  So not only did your napkin not work as you expected, but now you have infected the patient with a needless disease.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@cryptohazard ·
One day steemit,Inc will work on content, user interactions and sense of community... but  not today.
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@d-pend ·
Was hoping for something along these lines. A good start, at the very least.
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@davemccoy ·
$0.06
I'm afraid you still don't get it.... You think its off by a factor of 10x... Not even close.  Yes you will appease a few people that will be able to vote and comment, but you have locked out people for 5 days.. now you are going to make that 2 day?  come on, wake up

Also if you continue to keep in the fact that people "lose something (anything) by commenting" then you truly have no concept of what a "social network" is.  You **WANT** people to communicate and comment.  But if you take anything away from them then they will just not do it...

What the hell kind of social platform will you have when people are trained to NOT COMMENT???  

I hope @abh12345 gets a chance to see this and weigh in with you all at the Steemfest.... That is one guy that "gets it" and understands that you try to "encourage" people to comment, not charge them for it...

I won't post the banner that is flying around the back alleys making fun of you all, but the bottom line is your new tagline will be "The Anti-Social Network" if you don't change your course.
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@abh12345 · (edited)
$0.06
Hi Dave

I think this is a step in the right direction, and would rather see incremental rises in RCs like this, rather than a patch that puts us no better off (with regards to cutting spam) than we were before.  I suspect there could be more increases to come as a balance is found.

When the pumpkin seeds settle, it might be an idea to round up the 'good' red fish struggling to breath and find dolpins/orca's willing to delegate to them so they can transact as before.  I'm going to hold off on this until Steemit inc have settled on parameters.

Cheers!
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@davemccoy · (edited)
$0.06
Asher, I think the world of you and think you are one of the most amazing people I know.  I think the way you've sacrificed to help others is something that will pay you more than money when you reach my age and realize how your life has been lived.

Having said that.

I think they are dead wrong on "taxing" "charging" "applying" or whatever term is used to depleting the one resource that is needed to comment and communicate.  I am even bothering to point it out to you for one important reason, I think you have the size and influence to maybe change it.  

If you don't "get it", they won't get it.  That I can guarantee you.

So I know you might not want to upset the masses and sometimes not rock the boat, but on this one I would ask you to think it through.  If it wasn't **YOU** that ran the engagement league, I would be forming a protest movement against engaging until they fix it.  I won't (because its you), but I am clear that chargning people goes completely against what you have been trying to achieve, MORE ENGAGEMENT.

I know you are willing to "help" people by delegating them more RCs, because that is how you roll... But that is something that is not something anyone should be beholden to you or anyone for.  Making a comment and using "MANA" is something that should be "thanked" not "taxed".  And just because generous people like you will plug the dike with "help paying those taxes" doesn't make it a thank you instead of a tax.

You don't need to reply, I'm not asking you to convince me on this one.  In fact its the other way around for once.  I'm asking you to think of how that person with 15 SP that just signed up is going to feel when they learn that they have to vote less if they comment.  Do you really want them to choose making a comment and not giving others the value of their vote?  How about witness votes?  I voted for 2 witnesses with one of my alts 2 days ago (you and @yabapmatt), do you realize that took ALL MY RCs (that is all I did).  So now I will get to vote for 20 and then my RCs will be gone?

Normally I think that things will straighten themselves out (sometimes smoothly and sometimes not)... But this is one that will have major ramifications.  We all know they can tinker with the formulas of what has what value in their new genius plan, so if we can see that tax by the comments affecting our ability to do other things then it will have severe consequences.  I hope you can find a way to see this.   Because if you don't, then this place will never change.  You (as a nice guy) want to give them time to see and give them the benefit of the doubt... I on the other hand and am not so nice, and I have seen the stupid decisions as I've seen the attrition directly.  That greater than 100% attrition rate is a reflection on their lack of ability to be "in touch" with the masses.  In my opinion, we need you to get it or Steemit will get so far out of touch that that connection is broken for good.

Again, no need to reply back.  Please just think about this.  If I'm wrong in your eyes, then its ok for us to disagree.  I have the utmost respect for you and realize that two people can have differing opinions!   I hope you have a great day and weekend.... So cheers and thank you for listening to my opinion!
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@investingpennies ·
$0.05
I agree with this.  The current rise in RCs is a low bar step.  Hopefully it doesn't need to be progressed higher, but there's nothing to prevent it from doing so.  

Yes this week has sucked, but I still believe the objectives this dev team has sought out has been well thought out for scaling purposes, even if its implementation (in this last HF in particular) was a disaster and far from successful.
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@evlachsblog ·
$0.08
I totally get you. I used to enjoy commenting on other people's posts but just by doing this i know I will be charged/taxed, what's the point? I haven't earned anything since i joined,  just friendships along the way because I exchanged comments with them. I Will just go back to wordpress where I won't be charged for commenting. Now I think i am losing confidence on Steemit.
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@davemccoy ·
I understand your point and sad that it is coming to this... I will say that the people at Steemit (the big boys) have been telling me for the last 2 days not to worry that it will all get fixed and it won't be a problem.  And I sincerely hope so.

I do know that they did a "fix" and a lot of people that were unable to do anything can now post and comment... So I don't know if this whole thing was just a mistake, an issue with design, or simply something they realized their error and fixed based on the reaction.  In any case, I'm happy to hear that people are connecting again and as long as they don't repeat such a stupid policy, then I'll stay a little longer and hope for the best!

It is nice to meet you @evlachsblog and I appreciate your comment and hope you stick around to see how it turns out too :)
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@investingpennies · (edited)
As much as I want to agree with this sentiment, there is something to be said about the personal responsibility of individuals becoming vested in the platform by actually acquiring some STEEM to power up.  

The same can be said of newspaper pay walls.  We are all so used to free information (or free crypto in this instance) that we forget that someone is paying/subsidizing for that access.  I think 10x is appropriate on the face of things, and an easily adjustable figure if its not.

Steem essentially gives away "stock" if you will by rewarding users with Steem... its not merely a social network.  People should be incentivized to power up and not feel entitled to the right of obtaining as much as they want on someone elses dime.
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@davemccoy ·
$0.10
if you are right @investingpennies, then I hope you don't have a dream of mass adoption.... I guess if you want to have a little tech niche of people that can have discussions about blockchain and things like that, then it will do fine.  

But if you expect people to "put money into the system to simply use it", then you will quickly find out that your expectations were off.  I also think that while the opportunity to make money is ok, its nowhere near what it is hyped to be to get people here in the first place.  And now with an attrition rate of greater than 100% you agree with disabling them until they "pay up" then you truly are so far off the mainstream.  I don't know if you are part of the programming team, but its a lack of thought on programs like this that have made this place fail to retain the users.  Instead of telling people what they "should" do, Steemit Inc might want to figure out what they "will" do.  And I can assure you that if you charge people for commenting and they have to choose between that and making a post or upvoting, then you can damn sure bet that interaction will die a quick death.  Maybe that's ok with the programmers who don't like people anyways, but for the ones here for the social aspect it will drive them away in herds.
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@melinda010100 ·
Shouldn't we be rewarded for commenting and engaging? I simply don't understand this.
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@davemccoy ·
That is my point exactly... I doubt they can explain it to you (since you're right), but maybe they will listen to you (or all of us collectively).
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@roundbeargames ·
'anti-social network' is exactly what it is &#128516;
in fact it's not even a platform when you have to pay to vote/comment/post.
i guess when you're sitting on millions it's hard to understand the vast majority that have nearly nothing.
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@davemccoy ·
I agree, they need to go out among the regular people and realize what their experience are.  Thanks for the comment (I know you used some RCs to make it) ;)
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@writtenments ·
As wee all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@daydreams4rock ·
Heaps of technical details but nothing on how this will help me or any other user. I guess it is more of a power grab for the whales to make increasing profits, as that is all I have seen in a year on Steemit.
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@dedisaputra1 ·
Verry good
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@doctorss ·
how many days need for complete this update?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@doctorss ·
Perusing these remarks, I understand I was mixed up when I exited my first remark the previous evening. I was under the feeling that new records got 15SP to begin and that the 10x coming today around evening time would have been connected similarly to each record. Turns out both are mistaken. 

New records evidently get just 5SP at this point. What's more, the 10x is heading off to the whole RC pool, not similarly to each record. Presently I don't know how that circulation will be chosen, however how everything else has been chosen recommends that the more you have, the more you'll get. 

Well that is simply in reverse. At the present time I can leave 100+ remarks/post every day. No chance I'm utilizing all that, so making it 1,000+ for me isn't helping anybody. 

In the interim, another client truly attempting to manufacture connections on here and contribute profitable substance to the stage may not in any case get 10x, and regardless of whether they did, that would just mean their having the capacity to remark or post about once every day. 

Please. Allows simply skirt this 10x and go straight to 100x. At that point the group can take a gander at use and modify from that point. It's ridiculous to make individuals pause... how much longer?.... before ordinary utilization can continue with the goal that you can even start gathering significant information. If you don't mind address this now. 

On a different yet related point, for what reason would we say we are comparing being new with being a spammer? For what reason would we say we are endeavoring to battle spam in a way that punishes new individuals? 

I totally comprehend the requirement for utilizing RCs to track asset use, and giving people and the devs precise criticism on framework use by different activities. I thoroughly get why that is essential for SMTs to work in the following fork. 

Yet, wouldn't you say you should begin by giving individuals enough RCs for an ordinary human to work on here when they first begin? 

Wouldn't you say the strategy for forestalling spam ought not take after a technique for anticipating utilization by new clients? 

I was setting this months back, before UA scores happened, and I see it much more at this point. I realized that the manner in which individuals were looking at battling spam would hurt new clients. And after that I proposed another measurement for being a genuine individual other than measure of SP held, which was commitment to the stage. 

I was not able make the coordinations work, however then came the entire UA score usefulness, which has been completing a slamming occupation of making sense of who is contributing pretty much to the stage. Why not have that be what decides what number of RCs somebody begins every multi day time frame with? 

We should quit likening having more cash with having more an incentive to this stage.
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@dogimage ·
good news that steemit is going forward
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@doomsdaychassis ·
$0.18
To be honest, I aint even mad. You guys are trying to fix it. I get it. Shit goes sideways sometimes. I truly hope this is a lesson learned and there will be no fuckery when SMT rolls out sometime in the next decade. 2 things my dad always said
1. Measure twice and cut once. 
Meaning attention to detail and double checking your work keeps you from screwing up and having to go back and fix it while looking like an A hole.
2. Go get me a beer. 
That meant go get him a damn beer. 

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Doomsday out.
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@andrarchy ·
LOL. Lessons learned, and no doubt many more lessons to be learned once we perform the post-mortem. We couldn't agree more with respect to the SMT roll out.
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@davemccoy ·
$2.74
I hope you recognize the part of the equation that you don't want to assess people a "fee" "cost" "RC usage" whatever on the things that you WANT THEM TO DO.  Because if you do that, you will get the opposite.  If you charge them, they will not do it... 

The reason I bring this up is comments in particular... this place will become a ghost town if people lose anything by making comments.  Now you might think it doesn't matter to the guys in the 70s like you (and you'd be right), but it sure would matter to every Minnnow and lower that is trying to get posts out and earn some votes.  Commenting will be a luxury they will do without and then the site will go backwards for sure!
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@belemo ·
$0.13
Your dad had a way with words
👍  ,
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@doomsdaychassis ·
$0.03
A real modern day poet
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness...Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@majes.tytyty ·
$0.02
Your dad is / was a wise and practical man. And I bet he was happy, too! 
Cheers.
👍  
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@doomsdaychassis ·
$0.03
He was the greatest. I truly miss him every day. He died way ahead of his time. 
cheers.
👍  ,
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@valth ·
$0.02
The second lesson is definitely what we need to take away from his wisdom!
👍  ,
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@doomsdaychassis ·
$0.03
You speak the truth fine sir. A cold beer in the hand makes everything better.
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
👎  
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@doomsdaychassis ·
How about you go fuck yourself with a  cactus you shitty fucking bot.
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@dotfee ·
That was great news for all of us..@steemitblog thank you very much shearing with us

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@sorin.cristescu ·
"shearing" indeed ... :-D
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@dreamer007 ·
Ok I can only vote about 10 times  and comment 3 times with no new post  then the RC is depleted. So with a SP of 19 I can't post at all just vote and comment? 
Please let m know what to do I love this platform and always try my best for quality content.
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@johnhtims ·
You need to let your RC have time to replenish as it's at a ridiculously low 1%.  It will never recharge though if you don't let it.  I think it recharges at 20% per day but I could be wrong.
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@dreamrafa ·
Recourse credit to 100% yeahhh LOL... Now i can comment a lot :P ... Still waiting for my Voting Mana to reach 100% for start upvoting as i used to...
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@drutter ·
Somewhere, sometime, somehow, someone will study the economics and psychology of this incredible living experiment.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@ducky9605 ·
Hello @steemitblog, thank you for the lengthy explanations but still I would like to make a blog and see what happens. Also looking forward for a better payout for blogs in the near future. Thanks a lot for your team efforts to make steemit a better place for all of us. God bless!
👍  
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@writtenments · (edited)
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@dulaj15 ·
When update end?
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@elamental ·
$0.03
Thank you for providing us all with a space to produce quality, conscious content, in a decentralized community. I have never had an opportunity like this, and have never grown and learned so much, in such a short amount of time, from one source. I do not know what I would do without this platform, my life would definitely be lesser for it. I have faith that all these issues will be corrected in the proper manor in due time, giving us all the abilities back that we had previously, along with new advantages that will hopefully also filter spam to some degree. We all got frustrated with this at some point, I know it was extremely poor timing for me personally, my projects, and the contests I am hosting, but as long as this patch ends up working to our benefit in the long run, then I know our collective sacrifices will be worth it. Blessings @SteemitBlog!!
👍  
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@clixmoney ·
Thanks for your positivity. There are so much negative people, I feel very happy when between a lot of negative comments I find a positive one. A lot of people can't even create a website and they are complaining about all of this. We have to give steem team the space to make their work perfectly and wait when everything will be perfect, we are all not perfect.
👍  
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@elamental ·
Absolutely, I am always in support of this platform. It has done so much to advance my life, and through me extend my reach for healing the planet. I will admit that I was a bit lost for a second though haha. Blessings my friend.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As wee all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@elguille ·
It is very interesting to see the reactions of everyone around here. It raises up the biggest issues with steemit:  

1) there is no democracy to decide over the  changes in how steem works, and that is usualy ok with closed platforms such as facebook that steal users stake (content), but with steemit, we have way more expectations, including being heard and keeping our stake (money) safe, 

2) this system is not serving the humans and is not developed to adapt to human scales, so it has to be tweaked and hardcoded. 

3) SPAM is hard to avoid and the most successful  ways to fight it include machine learning, while Steemit is attempting to put limitations to both, bots and humans. 

I am not that mad with steemit, mostly because I don't depend on it, finantially. I know development is hard and I know what it is to put out a system that fails in production and having to fix everything on the run. It sucks and is quite embarrasing. I understand you, and don't hate you. I do hope the steem elite notices those big 3 issues and work hard to overcome them.
👍  
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@ericwilson ·
![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmP2LgBLnwV2xtYKvLydjTesxgwAsXnGTCxMKcJHo17bsD/image.png)

what the actual fuck is going on I was 60% an hour ago.
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@erodedthoughts ·
Just don't reset our VP to zero again and all is fine with the world!
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@ex-nova ·
Primeramente doy gracias al arduo trabajo de los desarroladores, si bien en los ultimos dias la mayoria de los usuarios hemos tenido inconvenientes al momento de votar, postear, responder entre otras... Decir la crisis ya paso.
En esta actualizacion solucionaron varios poblemas a mi parecer en los que respecta a RC a mi parece y la fluidez de la operaciones, y un aspecto que afecto a muchos creo que fue el nivel de infuencia que tienen..
Sin mas que decir . Gracias por su arduo trabajo,
en espera de nuevas mejoras...
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@excalliburbd ·
Awesome stuff
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. future Is History"
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@flauwy · (edited)
I wanted to inform you, that my voting power dropped drastically - AGAIN! I was restraining myself a lot and went up to 50% since the hardfork reset down to 0%. This was last night. This morning my voting power was down to 10% again without a single vote. I double checked my account on https://steemworld.org/@flauwy and indeed there is no obvious reason how or why this could have happened. 

EDIT (my poor RC): It seems to be a display bug on Steemworld as my voting power is correct on Busy and Steempeak.
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@funbobby51 ·
While people are waiting for all that to happen they can come join WeKu with me.
https://deals.weku.io/pick_account?referral=funbobby51
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@funbobby51 ·
I would say your best bet here @ned is to give everyone who commented on this post a 100% vote. That will shut them up.
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@nigelmarkdias ·
$0.24
> That will shut them up.
@funbobby

On @Steemit,  possibly.
But, on Trybe? Minds?......
👍  ,
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@funbobby51 ·
LOL I was referring only to the people commenting on this post, there aren't enough upvotes in the world to make his early congratulating himself on the hard fork 20 go away.
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@futurethinker ·
>Based on our analysis, we believe the best path forward is to issue a series of patches tonight, the most significant of which will multiply the resource budgets by 10x. 

If everybody is given 10x more, how will the current RC system reach an equilibrium? In other words, does this has an effect on the end state of the RC?
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@andrarchy ·
Great question. We will continue to get a lot of useful data and because RC is non-consensus we can leverage that data to iterate the system toward a more sustainable equilibrium. But yes, effectively, we are artificially lowering the cost of transacting for the time being for the sake of continuity, but we will have far more options with respect to how we proceed than were available to us with the bandwidth system.
👍  
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@investingpennies ·
You note "for the time being". Does this insinuate that the change is not a long term fix? Are we waiting for some other fix regarding the limited resource budgeting?
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@lemony-cricket ·
$0.06
Hey @andrarchy. I keep hearing this phrase "non-consensus" thrown around a lot. Is there a good resource available on understanding what this means in the context of Steem? (Technical is fine; I'm a technical person.) I ask because it sounds like you're saying the system that keeps our decentralised network somewhat safe from spam attacks is not something that all nodes must agree upon.

If that's the case, how does that even work? I know that **follows** are non-consensus which makes sense to me, since it's something a frontend could completely ignore and I think a few already do. Fine; it's not really important for us all to agree on who follows whom. That's between them. But _this_ sounds sketchy to me.
👍  ,
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@smooth ·
Everyone doesn't get 10x more. What happens is that the total pool of resources available to access using RCs is increased by 10x, so all else being equal the RCs required for each operation should decrease to about 1/10 what it is now.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@ganjafarmer ·
Just want to steem!  Save steem! 

Thanks and hope things are fixed soon!
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@gold92 ·
big event
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@gringo211985 ·
I get that we need to be  paying witnesses and stopping spammers, but why don't we just have fees for witnesses from each post / comment reward? 

We could go like 75% author / 24% curators / 1% witness

Each wallet transaction made should have 0.001 fee at minimum and max of 1 Steem / SBD at 1%.

Spammers = Have an official account that does what SteemCleaners do but instead of flagging they limit accounts to 1 post per day or something. (take the fee for the humans running the account via the 1% for witnesses or whatever)

Also from a noobs point of view I think it'd be a good idea if we could have somewhere:
1. Number of upvotes remaining
2. Posts remaining
3. Voting manna (power)

Would provide a much better UX for people rather than getting "you can't do this" message and people not having any clue why. I'm talking about people who aren't really into crypto etc. the ones that don't understand RC's. It'd just be a nice clear way to view what you can do each day, and no harm putting a "want more votes bla bla buy steem" message so people can then understand why they should power up.
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@hengary ·
$0.53
Sigue costando 91% de mi steem power votar? daba un voto y me quedaba con 17% ...
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@holovision ·
Are those Discount Account Creation tokens mentioned in https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20 available yet? How do we create a discounted second account under hardfork 20 using resource credits?
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@holoz0r ·
$1.09
Perhaps new (fresh accounts) - in particular ones transacting with dApps such as Steem Monsters, dtube, VIMM, etc get a pooled bonus to enjoy those apps... sensibly (ie accounts with x steem power, zero flags, and transactions of a certain json) get discounted "transactions" in terms of resource credits that tapers away as their account grows. 

Surely every account at dolphin / orca / whale status isn't expected to use their entire allocation of Resource Credits in a single day? Does this not create equilibrium? I could never imagine using my entire bandwidth allocation pre HF20. 

I may be missing the whole point, but the true cost of not-transacting on chain at all for these new and on boarding accounts is far greater than the "true cost" of a transaction in terms of blockchain computational cost. 

I know that this update lays the foundation for SMTs, and I might be missing something about how RC interact with this, but please, think of the minnows! 

They're our future!
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@commonlaw ·
In truth the very real danger is that there will be no future dolphins or whales, which is kind of the truth about mankind. When we have children, the parents have to sink a large portion of the available resources into the health and well being of that new Sovereign Autonomous Life. That investment is the principal authority of the investor or in life the parent. Everyone involved has that principal investment to some degree. Witnesses are a part of everyone and I am sure looking out for there own vested interest. In truth if you don't think that the witnesses vested interest is the same as your own, than why are you here?

If you do believe that the Witnesses vested interest and yours is close enough to be there no never mind, than pay the Witnesses the past performance we have enjoyed. Have faith in the only proper use of faith there is. Just as you know the Sun will come up, because it has in the past. So should you know that those who are working to make our experiences the best that it can be, are. Later we can pick it all apart and see how we can make it better. 

For now I say let the drivers drive, and see if we are not where they said we would be?
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@erodedthoughts ·
I did a SteemMonster gift card to see the tax and it was zero!
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Can we donate money to new accounts in order to give them more resource credits (RC)? Can we have a test website where hard forks are tested at? Back to my first question, why not encourage individuals to help new users by vetting them, by sponsoring them in joining Steem, financially, instead of by simply expecting Steem to offer too much welfare, socialism, free money, themselves?
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@just2random · (edited)
Yeah in theory, it sounds great, but this could be open to abuse from bots. If you give too many RC's away to new accounts this could just lead to more SPAM. This is a fine balancing act for sure.

For now, the 'dApps' onboarding new users may need to delegate SP to ensure the new users can use their apps as intended.

Not ideal for sure, but could solve a problem or two.

In an ideal world dolphins and above should be able 'sponsor' or 'buddy up' with new users to share their RC credits. ie. You go fishing in the plankton pool and give someone or many people that you think have potential access to your RC credits.  (Let's call it Delegated RC)

Just thinking out loud.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
What is spam? Is my comment here spam?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@linkinpark ·
its been a long time since the update and my best friend @steemingmark still cant post his blogs?? Please help!?
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@stellabelle ·
That’s just it. A patch is coming . If a patch doesn’t resolve it then we are all screwed.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@steemmonstershow ·
Yes. This is EXACTLY where I'm at. Those minnows are gunna bail.
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@stellabelle ·
$0.03
They already have. No one forgets the feeling of “You can only comment 1 time per day.” This is an epic fail on a level I didn’t even think possible.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@tarazkp ·
If you consider that the dApps will be able to get discounted account tokens and they will likely have RC, they can potentially  onboard and delegate to their new users directly in the future. And as you have rightly noticed, you aren't likely to ever need all of your RC so essentially there is the potential to have a bandwidth market where those same dApps or users perhaps can rent lines in various ways, just like Steem delegations. 

Seeing what the true costs are however is an important thing to do before concessions can be made. Up until this point, no one knew what was costing what where which meant many accounts were interacting in a type of debt structure without knowing it. Now it seems that it is possible to better allocate resources to where they are needed as we can see where the needs actually are. In time, this should be able to be continuously fine tuned and tweaked to support onboarding and the support of onboards as it will be clear what is required to do so. 

The current situation although uncomfortable is likely relatively short-lived but could bring a lot more opportunity as it empowers the Dapps to better serve their users which means, higher decentralization and distribution.
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@mykos ·
i hope you right tarazkp
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@writtenments ·
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@uyobong ·
$0.11
@holoz0r, let me add to your submission that Planktons and minnows  are users who keep the #steemit platform engaging. Their quest for growth is what spurs frequent posts and comments against what the whales  do. 

Sadly, this RC computation has totally denied most planktons and minnows of this feeling as they cannot post nor comment. This should be revisited.

Moreover, the RC computation do not show estimates for posts. Estimates are only pooled for comments, voting and poweups. Personally had 19 comment pools. After I successfully made one post, the whole thing drained to 6, implying I cannot post again in the mean time.

@steemitblog, help us by giving estimates of posts or amount of RCs needed for posts so we can plan well.

Thank you for the update though we expect more frequent updates in 6 hour intervals..
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@christoryan ·
What does this mean? 
 It says i have RC Status	69.71 %|1,269,526,091,571 RC. ... Is this good?
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@holoz0r ·
$0.02
There are third party tools (such as steem.supply) which will show an estimate of posts/ votes/ transactions available, however, I am not certain of their mathematical accuracy; given the instability we're all going through right now. 

Once the numbers stabilise, I'm sure we'll see the true potential of this "Velocity" Hard Fork come to be. 

<sub>I hope</sub>
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@informationwar ·
$0.16
This is a primary concern for our group as well. Many of the people who participate in our #informationwar group are under 100 SP, brand new people obviously having the default amount upon account creation. 

The best way for people to get more followers and interact with people is to make dozens of comments daily on posts they find interesting. We will see a hampering of growth in tota new accounts are not abl to make many comments daily. Reddit for example, you might make 30 to 40 comments there daily pretty easily, theres so many subreddits you can follow and so many things to comment on. Steem is growing and this will be the case here as well. When users find they can't make a reasonable amount of comments they will likely not want to be here.

Are we going to have the ability to sell our excess Resource Credits and or loan excess Resource Credits? As was stated, people with a few thousand SP can basically make hundreds of comments per day and likely never will use all of their bandwidth(resource credits).

I would really like the ability for the InformationWar account to be able to give out our excess Resource Credits, and or have an option that delegates a % of our Resource Credits out to someone else. 

A few ways I think it could work, first one being that you do the same as Steemauto upvoting services do it. Give us the ability to set a threshhold/limit to how much % the IW account can give out in a day. So if we have 10 people signed up under us, and we allocated in total 10% of our resource credits out, and we allow each user to only take one full percentage point per day. Very similar to how you setup curation trail upvote following on Steem auto, preset limits based in %.


Or give us the option to give someone the Resource Credit itself, so we could transfer it like we transfer Steem or SBD from account to account.

There should be so much excess Resource Credits that whales will be fighting eachother for who can price it lower, so the price of such a thing shouldn't be very high.

I welcome all criticism/feedback to this suggestion of course.

Thanks, @truthforce
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@writtenments ·
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@ilookatyou ·
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@cheerdemoncul ·
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@vaetumpire ·
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@happysteeming ·
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@nicetosmeetityou ·
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@latviasteem ·
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@profundiscukus ·
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@profondotuoculo ·
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@writtenments ·
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@ilovemylife ·
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@writtenments ·
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@imransoory ·
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@indigoocean ·
This addresses my primary concern, that new users with the 15SP delegation would only be able to comment/post twice per 5 days if the current RC allocations remained in place. I'm glad to see that you're immediately multiplying that to where at least they get 4 posts/comments per day (which is at least enough to function on here) and that there is also the possibility of this increasing further for them without needing a fork for it. At least that's how I interpreted:

> "Due to the fact that many components of the RC system are non-consensus, we can continue to adjust the resource pool budgets, track trends, and adjust charges incrementally over time so that we can meet our third goal of moving us toward sustainable pricing of blockchain operations."

<br>I also think the new system will be a great improvement once it is worked out how to disincentivize spam while supporting the success of new users from around the world on the platform. In general, it will be good to know what various actions will cost you so that users can prioritize usage, and of course help the company to also have this data on actual cost of operations as they move forward. 

I'm still a little curious on how needing RCs to do transfers is going to work for DEXs.
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@smooth ·
Transfers are very inexpensive. It appears they are something like 1/300 of the cost of a comment or post, although these numbers might adjust some in the future.
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@writtenments ·
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@indigoocean ·
$10.73
Reading these comments, I realize I was mistaken when I left my first comment last night. I was under the impression that new accounts got 15SP to start and that the 10x coming tonight was going to be applied equally to every account. Turns out both are incorrect.

New accounts apparently get only 5SP now. And the 10x is going to the entire RC pool, not equally to each account. Now I don't know how that distribution is going to be decided, but how everything else has been decided suggests that the more you have, the more you'll get.

Well that's just backwards. Right now I can leave 100+ comments/post per day. No way I'm using all that, so making it 1,000+ for me isn't helping anyone.

Meanwhile, a new user genuinely working to build relationships on here and contribute valuable content to the platform may not even get 10x, and even if they did, that would only mean their being able to comment or post about once per day. 

Come on. Let's just skip this 10x and go straight to 100x. Then the team can look at usage and adjust from there. It's absurd to make people wait... how much longer?.... before normal usage can resume so that you can even begin collecting meaningful data. *Please* address this now.

On a separate but related point, why are we equating being new with being a spammer? Why are we trying to fight spam in a way that penalizes new people?

I completely understand the need for using RCs to track resource usage, and giving individuals and the devs accurate feedback on system utilization by various actions. I totally get why that is necessary for SMTs to work in the next fork. 

But don't you think you should start by giving people enough RCs for a normal human to function on here when they first start out? 

Don't you think the method for preventing spam should not resemble a method for preventing usage by new users?

I was positing this months ago, before UA scores came about, and I see it even more now. I knew that the way people were talking about fighting spam would hurt new users. And then I suggested another dimension for being a real person other than amount of SP held, which was contribution to the platform.

I was unable to make the logistics work, but then came the whole UA score functionality, which has been doing a banging job of figuring out who is contributing more or less to the platform. Why not have that be what determines how many RCs someone starts each 5 day period with?

Let's stop equating having more money with having more value to this platform.
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@bitcoinfox ·
Nice words and thanks for the help! :)
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@writtenments ·
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@cosmophobia ·
$0.02
can you explain in very simple terms, how to upload this HF20 patch? Thank you for reading my message
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@indigoocean ·
$0.02
I think you meant to put this question at the top level, not under my comment. At least, I'm not one of the witnesses, and only the witnesses had to do anything with the patch. 

The rest of us are just benefiting from their having done it already. You should experience its effects automatically now.
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@dailyopinion ·
This is incorrect. New users are delegated 15 SP, not 5. This should be more than enough for them to interact and get started. I believe this is going to change the culture of Steem to be that new users should be going for quality, not quantity. As they prove themselves they will gain more influence and be able to interact more. All in all, it's going to drastically reduce the bots and spam around Steem - which has been one of the number one complaints on the network.

I wrote a [blog post about it here](https://steemit.com/steem/@dailyopinion/daily-opinion-10-hf20-the-balancing-act-of-the-misunderstood-upgrade-to-steem) if you want to read more about my opinion.
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@fitbusinessman · (edited)
@dailyopinion primarily bots that attempt to police the platform like @steemcleaners. Not only are they completely dishonest, but they fail to realize that decentralization or even separation from the mainstream social bullshit has the initial foundation of NOT wanting to be policed. 

Let the community decide the content they would like to see! These idiots develop cartels using delegated Steem and attempt to impose their authoritarian power over minnows, which definitely keeps the platform from growing. 

Case-in-point: They use robot software to attempt finding content dupes across the net without ever considering who the main content dev was. Posting earlier on the net does not mean that you originated the content. Especially in cases of purposeful syndication or curation!
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@indigoocean ·
They used to get 15SP, but a number of folks on discord have made it clear they got only 5SP.
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@hiroyamagishi ·
I do not see any problem with 10 comments a day per person. I am expecting a more valuable comment because of this. That is what they called ***Freemium***.
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@improv ·
$0.13
This. Lots of this.

> ensures fair pricing of resources based on proportionate stake.

I don't think this is a necessary priority. In fact, I don't think it should be the implementation of RC at all. Rather than linear scaling, why not diminishing RC returns or a baseline level of interaction? For an example of how the former would work, perhaps, someone with 5 SP should be able to make 50 comments a day. Someone with one hundred 75, two hundred SP = 100 comments, 400SP=125 and so on. There's still an incentive to increase STEEM holdings because of voting power and/or some interaction bonus, but you give smaller stakeholders the capacity to actually interact only at the expense of large holders being able to do more than anyone needs to do.

Alternatively, give everyone a baseline RC budget of enough for 50 comments a day and scale linearly from there. That's probably simpler. And I know that the folks running the platform think the market can solve all problems, but it's so clear that it can't. We see free market capitalism failing to create livable circumstances for so many people around the world and cycles of poverty becoming inescapable by means of market forces. Why should we believe that an internal RC market will provide the means by which a feasible system will be born? It's great that it provides data, and that can help developers direct software implementations, but it doesn't work for everyday users, I don't think.

If you read my examples and think, "that won't work, he doesn't understand," Fine, but please don't dismiss the sentiment, which is that "fair market" doesn't work for the majority of users, especially not new users.
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@indigoocean ·
I agree with your way of seeing how RCs would work better. It's not the issue of counting them as they are spent, which is what's really needed for HF21. That can stay. It's the issue of how they're meted out in the first place. 

Here's the thing I've come to: It isn't that they don't understand that these various methods are feasible for making this platform more hospitable to low SP people or new users unready to buy STEEM right off the bat. It's that they don't care about that. 

This HF was a success to them because... well... it was a success for everything they care about.

Many years ago a Buddhist teacher responded to my criticisms of things I'd newly discovered about the community of teachers by saying, "The path of awakening is the path of disillusionment. You have to let go of all your illusions, especially your illusions about [buddhism]." Well I've been applying that to everything ever since.

In this case, the time has come for us to let go of our illusions about what this platform means to the company that created it, and realize that it's not what it means to us.  The question then becomes, well how do you personally relate to that? That's a question each of us has to answer for ourselves.
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@stahlberg ·
Yes most definitely the free market does not work, except in limited circumstances, for instance when it's new and immature, not yet saturated.  As it ages the benefits for middle and lower income brackets diminish, as money migrates to the top, and monopolies become the norm.  It's a positive feedback loop impossible to break without outside interference.   Same for any closed system, just human nature.
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@ksteem ·
$0.45
Through the greatest pain comes the greatest growth. But not if the pain is too much to bear. Then all hope is lost. 

I totally agree with your suggestion of 100x and then adjust. If the goal and indeed requirement for growth is for people to comment, reply, upvote, and post, then they must be allowed to do this. I don't know enough about the technical requirements here, but I do know people. If the "common folks" cannot afford, or are not allowed to comment and vote at least 10, preferably 20-30 times a day, the platform will die a slow death.

Isn't one of the goals to have more human curation and less bot value? Then allow the human people to comment and vote 30-50 times a day. I personally find it very frustrating being limited to only 10 votes on certain days when there is a lot of good content sliding in between the spam. This is a requirement for the system to grow, we must allow the minnows to interact. Isn't that what has caused the most outrage during this fork? It has been the inability of the general user to interact. Why not implement the "simple" fix as others have called it at 100x, let folks interact, let the userbase grow to support it? If the system cannot handle 100x then maybe 50x, but 10x is far too low and will not solve the problem, only irritate folks more that yet another promise of usability has been violated. 

Let's move forward and keep improving this platform!
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@indigoocean ·
$0.02
Exactly. Why frustrate people longer when 10x isn't going to do anything for anyone who actually needs it. And I also want people leaving lots of comments, because that's how you grow. The spammers need to leave 100+ comments per day, but a real person can't. That's where the cutoff should be set.
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@luiggih ·
$0.04
"Isn't one of the goals to have more human curation and less bot value? Then allow the human people to comment and vote 30-50 times a day"
What about implementing some WEEKLY votes/curation instead of daily? Regular folks love to post some days and the rest of the days work hard and don't have the time to social media.
<b>IMHO</b>
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@stellabelle ·
$0.57
# "If the "common folks" cannot afford, or are not allowed to comment and vote at least 10, preferably 20-30 times a day, the platform will die a slow death."

# "If the "common folks" cannot afford, or are not allowed to comment and vote at least 10, preferably 20-30 times a day, the platform will die a slow death."

# "If the "common folks" cannot afford, or are not allowed to comment and vote at least 10, preferably 20-30 times a day, the platform will die a slow death."

# "If the "common folks" cannot afford, or are not allowed to comment and vote at least 10, preferably 20-30 times a day, the platform will die a slow death."

i would add that even telling people how much they are allowed to comment is a terrible system, one that it is inhumane. But if we must, i would say that 50 comments per day is an absolute must. Anything less than that will kill this platform.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness...Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@inquiringtimes ·
$1.03
https://steemit.com/witness-update/@reggaemuffin/witness-statement-for-reggaemuffin-proposing-hardfork-adoption-requirements
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@followbtcnews ·
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We have also posted our new "Standards" for future HF's and testing
https://steemit.com/witness-update/@followbtcnews/with-hf20-now-live-it-s-time-for-a-look-at-the-process-a-statement-from-one-of-the-consensus-witnesses
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@writtenments ·
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@izlude ·
Appreciate the update. Was going crazy with my Dtube channel and the old broken videos.  With the update, I can re-Title my broken vids as Depreciated, so users don't try to click them. They instead can view my pinned content..... unless there's a way now to remove old videos that I somehow missed?  ;)  Anyone?
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@jackemon01 ·
Beautiful acting actor plays! Good game! Power down and moving! You will get 100,000 SP from SP and you will not get anything to worry about not having to earn the remaining few dollars of the platform! Well done

As you can post so you do not have to understand things that are fixed ... if you want to see Scale (new users) you are not going. If you want to see half of the user active and have more than thousands of people, do not miss the Million SP vacancies (like me) in all ways, it's "specific" ... all of you will be  alone and we will be moved to a great deal. You think this answer is going to make you fun by spending anything on Facebook 'do not reply on stem ... why not ?? Oh right now you spend RC for posting steam! But RC = VP is your income !!! So now you have to decide. I will follow 3 people or vote 3 things and earn money ... Good reason you will like three things and follow 0 ... which is a great social platform which ... ... selfish selfish behavior ... if you want to debate about this matter all the way ... .. But as you said that you blindly want to follow  and believe it is good for you, When more than 100 people, including SP goes up lol! But hey, I'm sure they will replace me with 12 people. You only need 100,000 roufels! Like it!

If new users attract you to new users, then those who like me are going to help you! We're not going! You fucked us! We are shutting down ! No wonder .....
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@jacobpeacock ·
Gah!!! Steempocalypse! What a mess!
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@jeevesix ·
Way to hard fork everything up!
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@jefpatat · (edited)
sounds a lot like

https://img.devrant.com/devrant/rant/r_209701_MdtvB.jpg
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@transisto ·
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@topairdrops ·
Hello @transisto, I have sent 10 steem to @promobot before HF 20 and did not recive upvote nor money back, can you help with it?
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@jesus-christ ·
$0.04
In this way ...  1 STM= 0.001 $
I hope it will not be...
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@jguzman394 ·
Well steem down to 1 cent or less due to inactivity here for the patches current steem price .92 and sbd 1.00
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
# 30 Comments / Day? 
Currently, my daily comment limit is 30, according to [Steemd.com](http://steemd.com/@joeyarnoldvn) as of 2018-09-27 Thursday, as in right now, as in so far, and a 10x increase would raise that to 300 comments a day which is based on my 211 SP. Hope the patch can increase the limits by 10x or by more than that. Beyond that, or regardless of that, I'll continue to try to elevate my SP which maximizes the RC. 

# RC vs REP
I think Resource Credits (RC) are not based on my 51 reputation score (REP). I'm thinking that maybe RC should be based off a combination of SP & REP. I'm not sure if 300 comments/day is good enough, but it is better than 30. 

# Only 3 or 6 Comments Left? 
Now, yesterday, SteemD said I had 3 more comments left and I wrote one big comment with an uploaded screenshot picture and then SteemD said I had zero comments left. At the moment, I have 6 comments left, and this comment may take me down to 5, 4, or maybe even 3, like yesterday, maybe because of how wordy I am here, with all of these words, all of these paragraphs and paragraph titles. Hoping for the best for Steemit, each step at a time. Yours truly, Oatmeal.
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@johnhtims ·
Looks like it's fixed.  I'm able to comment with less than 3SP.
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@jorgemena ·
yo solo quiero tener la oportui¿nidad depublicar una o dos veces al dia, ni siquiera he tenido a oportunidad de presentarme formanlmente en esta red. no soy usuarioo frecuente de otras redes sociales porque me parece que no habia beneficio tangible en el uso, pero aqui parece que hay mas contenido de calidad del que hay en otras plataformas, estoy iniciando y quiero poder empezar a publicar. no sé hasta que momento se va a desbloquear mi boton de publicar.
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@joshmackwilliams ·
WOW. That got a lot of negative comments. 

I won't pretend to understand everything that's going on. What I do know is that when HF20 first hit, I had -65000% resource credits. That would have taken YEARS to regenerate. Additionally, everyone else had the same problem. The blockchain was So what did I do? How can I even make this comment?

I didn't do anything. The Steemit Team fixed it. 

Suddenly the blockchain came back to life. People were posting, commenting, and voting again. But it wasn't enough. Activity for small accounts was still extremely limited. So what did I wake up to this morning?

Yet another patch by the Steemit team. 

I don't know how the rest of the situation will play out, and I don't even know how much the patch has actually fixed. Maybe I'll post this and my RC will only go down a couple percent and everything will be fine. Maybe I lose half my RC, and this patch has fixed nothing for me. But I do think that whatever happens the Steemit team will continue to work toward keeping Steem free and easy to use. I intend to stick with the platform, despite the difficulties. 

Keep trying, Steemit team. As a fellow programmer, I know how hard code can be to get right. I trust you to do your best.
👍  ,
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@nigelmarkdias · (edited)
$0.22
> Keep trying, Steemit team. As a fellow programmer, I know how hard code can be to get right. I trust you to do your best.
@joshmackwilliams

Are there enough _fellow programmers_ to take @Steemit to 100M DAU? 10M? 1M?
I have no option on Steemit but, to trust the team, sir.
Of course, [we're still in beta.](https://steemit.com/steem/@nigelmarkdias/hf20-blues-2018-09-28-12-58-08)
https://steemitimages.com/0x0/http://steepshot.org/api/v1/image/42daae20-3a05-4d51-ae12-51b03ad5ec9d.jpeg
👍  ,
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@jplaughing ·
Can we have a guidelines to, and review how much RC making a Post would cost?
I noticed, that a New/Free account, meaning, accounts with under 15SP, are unable to create a Post that would be worth reading. 
Interactions such as Voting, Commenting, Transacting are substantially cheaper than Posting. So I don't think a new user would have much issue with those being restricted to an extend. 
What I'm worried about, is a situation in which the system is made into Invest-to-Post situation.
For individual new users, the ability to Comment, and Post, is more valuable in terms of platform attractiveness than the ability to Vote and Transact. 
Am I crazy, or what?
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@juancho.ale ·
ESTARIA GENIAL EN ESPAÑOL!!!
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@kafkanarchy84 ·
So new accounts will be able to post now?
👍  
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@valth ·
A 6SP account can only make a single post or comment with 100 % RC, so not really.  New accounts only get 3 STEEM worth of RC these days, so I'm not even sure if they can do a single post or comment..
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@viraldrome ·
$0.03
at least monthly or bi monthly.
👍  
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@kafkanarchy84 ·
Lol. This place is doomed.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@kafkanarchy84 ·
HF 20 “Velocity” (into brick wall)
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@old-guy-photos ·
yes and it was a "success"!!!
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@kaylinart ·
Woo hoo! I’m so glad it should work better after these patches. I need to feed my Steemit addiction to the fullest! 

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@keket ·
I used to love the idea of Steemit.  But now it seems like the things that are happening here now is so familiar. The rich goes richer(whales) kind of shit.  The newbies  who enter with only the investment of hard work by posting, commenting and upvoting, which btw is the lifeblood of Steemit, is left out.
I agree, with these selfish changes you guys are implementing, Steemit will die. I am considering leaving now. Its not that fun anymore. 
I hope you guys will again, think, and this time, think harder your priorities.
👍  
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@keydon ·
Mend the barn after the horse is stolen.
We roughed it.
I don't feel well.
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@haikubot ·
$0.05
<em>Mend the barn after 
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@khussan ·
This neew rc system is kind of disappointing as it drains so much faster
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@kittenlaw ·
I have very low SP here but I was finally able to post after two days... Hoping this means I can post more in the future and don't have to wait 5 days in between posts or comments... We shall see...
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@knowledges · (edited)
Like seriously, 
Limiting users transaction is not a good idea. 
I believe that this will hurt many dApps currently on the blockchain.
For example, some dApps have reviewers who review and comment on post made through their front end, this may likely stop due to the cost of RC. Increasing it x10 wont make things better.  Imagine a community having 1000 contribution daily. How are this contribution going to be reviewed?

My other concern would be that some dApps may decide to stop submitting comments/post to the blockchain. dApps on the blockchain could start creating their own db for storing users data like comments and posts, allowing them to only send post "URL" redirecting people to their front end app. This will allow their user to have less fear of the cost of commenting/posting through their front end.

I fear that if this happens, many pieces of information would not be sent to the blockchain because of "the cost." Every dApps would want to make their users happy and utilizing just the rewarding system just like dlive.
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@ladybug146 ·
$0.19
I don't know if  I'm the only one but since the HF20 I have been trying to power up my liquid steem and it is not letting me.  It says invalid owner key but I know I have the right key as I have used it before several times and I am the only person with access to this information and sign in with my posting key so nobody should be able to change it without my knowledge. Is it a bug that has been reported? should I wait it out and see?   I didn't see this problem on your list of issues/patches.

Glad to see some of the current RC issues will be resolved soon especially for the plankton level.
👍  , ,
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@investingpennies · (edited)
Just to clarify but you note that you sign in with your posting key.  You are using either your active or your master private key in order to power up under wallet right?  You cant power up using only your posting key.
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@ladybug146 ·
I use my master key to power up and it has worked several time in the past so I know I have the proper one.  I only use the posting for daily activities.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@latviasteem ·
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@laversalinazeoli ·
Buenos días. Es gratificante siempre ir hacia lo mejor en todos sus sentidos, esto siempre requiere de situaciones como lo que estamos viviendo, si es para el bien común, deberíamos ser también muy comprensivos y hasta flexibles, para seguir obteniendo este mundo genial y así continuar  interactuando toda una vida de experiencias y saberes en el arte de la cultura,  la pedagogía y la recreación sana y positiva, menciono todo esto porque para mi STEEMIT hasta ahora es y significa todo esto, aunque en mi corto trayecto dentro de esta fabulosa comunidad he visto post que en mi consideración no tienen nada que ver con lo que realmente es y representa esta plataforma, claro cada quien es libre y responsable de sus publicaciones. Espero muy ansiosa seguir, ya que como dije soy nueva, y me encanta este UNIVERSO DEL ARTE VIRTUAL, DONDE CONOCER Y HACERNOS CONOCER ES MUY GRATIFICANTE.
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@lays ·
very nice fork but it will make problems for newbies who have not enough Rc
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@lecumberre ·
Me complace ver y saber cómo se ha ido atenuando la agresividad, y hasta uso de palabras subidas de tono, de parte de algunos usuarios.

En realidad, como lo escribí antes, hay angustia ante la incertidumbre, pero  también hay que estimar que se está trabajando por mejorar el sistema, y yo también he vivido una especie de zozobra, pues deseo que la red  me permita interactuar de nuevo, y de forma libre.

A través de la lectura de la expresión de Dios,  he aprendido a tener fe y paciencia,  (Hebreos 11),   y se alcanzan la paz y la esperanza.

Aguardemos por buenos resultados.
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness...Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@leesunmoo ·
$0.03
There is one very important problem.
The transfer of funds and the power-up should not consume rc and should not have a minimum demand of rc.
Now I can't power up.

***
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@ned ·
I think you make a great point. There have been some suggested attack surfaces with free transactions, but with the holding costs involved in powering up, you could still be right. For now, at minimum, there is baseline RC based on having an account. This RC will regenerate and allow any account to powerup given enough time passing (approximately a few hours).
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@boontjie ·
In the blog you mentioned mana and RC as a solution to double voting. Why didnt you just use delegated SP's with the receiving accounts SP in a weighted average manner relative to their stakes? I mean in the old system all transactions had 0 cost. It was free to interact now you pay...
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@tcpolymath ·
In addition to powering up, unsigning witnessses and changing witness settings should also be RC-free, viz the current issues with @netuoso.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@leotrap ·
Those days have been a nightmare but anyway this phrase is a great summary: ***No other community on Earth is trying to do what we are all trying to do together...***
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@littlebitfarm ·
My opinion is that Steemit is in danger of losing what attracts people here in the first place rather than just posting on Facebook. The limits are still too tight. Most of us don't come here to be investors. We come here to earn a few nickles, enjoy one another's company, read, communicate, and then become investors as that becomes practical for us! What you are doing insures that it never becomes practical. I believed in this platform because it had the potential to help people, myself included. However, if it no longer does that, what is the point??? Especially when I currently post, and my post fairly dives into insignificance as it is! Are you listening to all these comments?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@lordnigel ·
Reading up and trying to understand like crazy. 

I really like where this is taking Steemit.

I do hope you tweak it just a little bit for Minnows.  It feels like they are a bit short on having enough ability to comment/reply (in one sitting)..

(just gut feel, reading peoples comments, looking at recharge rates and comment amounts etc).

Anyways this is my honest feedback. Keep up the good work

Cheers
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@lordnigel ·
So many comments tells me this platform has hope. This update is bold and is needed, we just need to be patient while a few tweaks are put in. 

..The Governance model needs some work and maybe some out of the box thinking. I'm happy to be part of a discussion to help if people want an extra point of view?

There are no villains here that I can see...although some unkind and angry people are a plenty; it's just when power isn't spread it corrupts. This is a decentralised platform shareholders and stakeholders, people with large stakes cannot control operations, it will always favour the individuals and not the mission.

I love Steemit, lets just be patient and spend a bit of time getting this right.

Cheers
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@lordnigel ·
I know there is allot of issues getting resolved, but wow! has anyone else noticed how responsive the platform is now!

Posts and comments are done in seconds and so far no errors for me. Surely this is a good thing? and to the negative people trying to destroy the good work...no it's not because people are leaving.

it's fast and I like it!
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@mansi94 ·
I liked
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@marcocasario ·
$0.38
@steemitblog
What about the missing posts in the various channels (Trending, New, ..)??

Just one example:
- https://steemit.com/created/introduceyourself jumps from "7 days ago" to "17 days ago"
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@honusurf · (edited)
$0.02
Once the bots get back to business and steem starts flowing again, I'm pretty sure everything will get back to normal. If were lucky in a few months no one will even remember this strange couple of weeks, unless you stocked up on more steem and or re-upped on this once in a lifetime Steem-disaster!!  Steem will carry on!
👍  
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@marcocasario ·
$0.48
Just checking that we are on the same page. I'm not talking about the missing posts caused by the fact that users could not post because of their RC. I'm talking about a bug for which looking at any channel you can notice a few weeks hole (not matching with when the steem blockchain was down or posting was too expensive). Maybe it's just an indexing issue that will get solved soon?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@marillaanne · (edited)
Bloody Hell.  (We've all been reduced to spammers)
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@nokodemion ·
$0.15
hmmm, or scammers :)
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@marillaanne ·
I'm rapidly joining the ranks that have been say'n Steemit is the scam so thereby we have indeed all become scammers. I can concur.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@overkillcoin ·
Good comment, bro.
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@marillaanne ·
$0.03
Luv ya sis! <3<3!! 😜
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@massmedicinals ·
$0.10
My friend just started out here on steem. They have 5SP, 10 million Mana/RC max.

They are showing me error messages where they cannot post or comment. 

The transaction error amount is 19 Million for posts, and then 20 million for commenting.

I have read that this HF was in an effort to counter spam/bots. Which is great. But at the same time, users new/old, need to have the ability to post as a starting point.

As a plankton I'm grinding through by providing content. That was only possible because I could post on a weekly basis.

Please reassess for the little people here!!!
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@indigoocean ·
I didn't realize new accounts only get 5SP now. It was 15SP when I joined. At only 5SP, even with this 10x patch, you will still only be able to either post or comment about once a day. That's thoroughly unacceptable.

This has been my concern a long time, and I've been trying to bring it to the attention of the witnesses for a while. How much SP one has cannot be how we determine who is a spammer and try to restrict their activity. You have to fight spam some way that doesn't also fight new users. 

Anything that ultimately comes back to SP, as RCs do, is a bad method for fighting spam. 

I think that something that measures engagement is a much better way to fight spam. UA scores are going a long way in that direction. Why not use something like that to determine how many RCs someone gets?

I understand the spending of RCs on all actions, but give people more to start with so that they are never running on empty just interacting as a real human being.
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@mattclarke ·
Anything we can do to help?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@mediahousent ·
This is my perspective, as regards the current dispensation, **I think Steemit Inc is interested in acquiring more Steem Power compared to what transpires before now where some folks just get something out of the platform without thinking of investing in it.** 
I think have seen that in operation, where my reward payout doubles my steem power organically. Kudos to that!

Albeit, the challenges with the Resource Credit and Mana is incredibly a one hell of a situation on the platform. Considerably, it is only accounts with 50k SP that can comfortably make use of these features. Meanwhile, the experience (freedom) a new user would have about the platform has been diminished by these changes. And it is not healthy for growth. **Practically, if not all accounts built their reputation and pushed their accounts to limelight via necessary and adequate commenting.** You see why limited comments due to low RC is just like the end of the game?

But like the update says, **restoring continuity**. Well done to the team!
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@meesterboom ·
Thank you. 

Working in software development I appreciate the quick turnaround and attempt to identify and fix what is wrong.

Again, all I can say it comes to communication. Whilst we are getting better at this we just need to keep working. If we all knew various factors were getting reset to zero and have to regenerate back up it would have gone a long way to allaying the concerns from all the various classes of fish.

Steem on!
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@mermaidvampire ·
$0.03
Pretty sure you are trying to handle this the best way you can. We appreciate the updates.
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@writtenments ·
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@mikenevitt ·
$0.10
Steemit has been a pain for the last few days but it sounds like people are working very hard to sort the problems out so well done. Cheers mike
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@writtenments ·
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@mountainjewel ·
dear @ned, 

i would like to ask you to read a post i wrote this morning around my experience as a steemian (since dec 2017) and how I think the new RC system would have inhibited my engagement on Steem and possibly even discouraged me from joining and engaging:

https://steempeak.com/steem/@mountainjewel/the-necessity-of-commenting-how-we-grew-our-account

it seems to me that RCs fit into a larger picture that many of us aren't privy to/can't see yet. many of the "backbone" steemians who still don't have a lot of SP in their wallets are regulated down to incredibly lacking engagement levels. how do you see this fitting into the future of steem? honestly, i don't believe a steem that limits new users to this level has much a future. can you share how you see it fitting in and indeed thriving into the future? a steem that is a pay to play system will not flourish. i am curious to hear your thoughts. thanks!
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@mrblu ·
thanks for the updates @syeemitblog
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@mrrah80 ·
#resteemed

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@mukhtar.juned ·
Thanks for your information
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@mysearchisover ·
$0.06
I support going back to HF19 especially with the bandwidth rules. 
I don't think it's the end of the world if Steem doesn't have SMT's.
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@writtenments ·
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@nandotrif ·
The message Steem team is sending with recent HF20: **buy our crypto or stay away from steem platform**. Steemit is therefor no longer a social media platform, where everyone gets paid for creating and curating content,  but the club of exclusive group of users (orcas, whales and dolphins). What kind a social media platform allows their newbies to post just couple of comments and then has to wait for RC to recharge. What is the RC recharge speed anyway? Can somebody let me know this?
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@builderofcastles ·
You can go to https://steemd.com/@nandotrif to check your numbers.

Mana, like voting power (used to) replenishes in 5 days.
Or, in other words replenishes 20% each day  (prorated/calculated per block)

The thing they are not telling you is that the minimum RC mana was set SOOOOO low, that a newbie account can vote twice every five days.  They could never post or comment.  Their maximum mana is lower than the cost of those operations.  Meaning, waiting for things to stabilize meant nothing.

Even i, with a decent account, 1.5 MVests, don't have enough mana to do the manual voting and commenting that i used to.  The 10x (change written about above) will be enough for me, the 5000th largest account.  I am pretty sure they will up it to 100x before all is said and done.

Further, mana should never have been based on a linear formula.
The difference between a super active user and a minimal user is actually very small.
So, the line will quickly get into territory where you could never spend it all.  So, why bother at all?

The only reason is bots.  And those need to be computed separately.
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@nandotrif ·
Thanks a lot for your comment, @builderofcastles. RC MANA has recharged faster in last few hours and it seems that the cost of each interaction (post, comment, follow, upvote ...) has become much lower now as well. Hope it will remain like that, at lest for a while.
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@nasir007 ·
MUCH INTERESTING
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@nealmcspadden ·
$0.32
Whatever the numbers end up being, a redfish account should be able to post and comment a reasonable amount on a daily basis. 

Call it 5 average length posts and 10 comments. Add another 10 upvotes that's the normal recharge rate under HF19 and prior.

That's real life social behavior, not spam.

If the RC budgeting system doesn't allow for this there is no way new users will come on board.
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@beggars · (edited)
$1.62
Exactly. Comments are (or were) the best way a newbie could get ahead on Steem, by making thoughtful and engaging comments. In my early days on Steem, I could make upwards of 20-30 comments in a day, and I am not talking about 100-word comments, long-form comments and I was able to get a little Steem from that.

Maybe the voting factor isn't as important because when you join your vote means $0 anyway. But commenting is everything and if we reduce that to the point where someone can't grow their account from it (because let's face it, posting posts without bots gets you no attention when you're starting out) this platform is as good as dead.

We have so many great dApps and developers in this ecosystem, @steemmonsters is one such great example of a well-organised and coordinated Steem application. As it currently stands, the changes serve to prevent Steem Monsters or other apps from growing.

Ultimately, I get the impression these changes will make more sense when we get SMT's, but given they struggled with these changes, my outlook on SMT's being released smoothly is quite negative as I have almost zero faith in Steemit Inc's development team right now.

Implement Agile/Kanban, hire more developers, leverage the smart minds in the Steem community (give them Steem tokens or whatever) and make Steem more of a community project than some private platform masquerading as an open source decentralised application (which it is currently not).
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@belemo ·
I feel the same way too. I've earned a fair bit from blog posts but most of my earnings came from the 20-30 comments I posted to engage whales and the big wigs, steem is about attention anyways. I rrally hope the new system doesn't hinder this
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@rycharde ·
"...hire more developers, leverage the smart minds in the Steem community (give them Steem tokens or whatever) and make Steem more of a community project ..."

This is a sentiment that is starting to resonate across users who perhaps in the past have had limited contact with each other.

The expertise pool on Steemit must be on-boarded in some way.
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@viraldrome ·
$0.09
I tell every new user to comment all they can, limiting them to 10 comments a day is a terrible idea
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@jarvie · (edited)
$0.12
**Yeah if a new person doesn't have RC enough to vote 10 times a day what's the point?**

We're teaching people they can vote 10 times a day their RC-Mana better be enough to make that a reality. 
And that's not even mentioning Commenting. Why can't they comment on those 10 posts they like. 

That's interacting with 10 whole posts in 24hrs. That should be a starting place and that starting place is super weak... imagine if people were told they can only heart and comment on 10 instagram posts a day until they pay money or spend 2 months earning money on Steem.

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@masterthematrix ·
$0.55
In my view Steem is really the only Blockchhain where people can enter the ecosystem without investing anything. Lets take Ethereum, Neo, Iota, Mythril or Socialwallet whatever they all require to have at least some amount of Coin/Token to be able to transact. On Steem users don't have to invest anything and they still can be part of the ecosystem. Yes, I understand in social media realms it is very odd to tell someone he can only comment 4 times or give 4 votes but Instagram, Reddit or Facebook are not Blockchain and you are giving away your privacy without earning anything. 
I think Steem just needs to sell its positon right to new users. Just be transparent about our systems and the positive and negatives that we enjoy here. If the expectations are communicated right than there should be no negative first-user impression. And what I found positive if we could build communities around new users to help them to get the starting here right and therefore if they found themself worthy than we can delegate some SP to them ( I see the minnow project here as a good starting point) If the "old" users understand that the new users need their help we could make this a very pleasant platform where everybody is happy to help each other...
But lets see how things will play out!!!
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@spectrumecons ·
$0.08
Restricting commenting has me more concerned that restricting upvoting. At full mana, new accounts can only comment twice to completely deplete mana. So that is 1 post and 1 comment over 5 days (assuming it takes 5 days to fully recharge). If the new user is also upvoting then we are talking about 1 comment every 5 days. 

Increasing the RC budget by 10 would be a huge improvement but still very limiting. I believe we need to encourage as much engagement as possible from new users. Most people will not want to invest immediately but rather get familiar with the platform before committing to investing. I took several months before I bough my first 10,000 Steem. 

Steem Inc could consider increasing free delegation of SP to new accounts to help them out.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@stellabelle ·
It needs to be at the very least 50 comments and 4 posts per day for EVERYONE. 100 comments would be better. If people don’t feel free to express themselves WITHOUT THE COGNITIVE LOAD OF BEING AFRAID OF USING UP RC then I’m afraid this experiment is a total and colossal failure. Epic fail.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@tcpolymath ·
$1.13
This. A freemium model requires basic functionality to be free, and that means a reasonable number of posts, comments, and votes.
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@halo ·
I think there is  only something like 50K daily active users, so what happens when we have 100K or 250k  daily active users, is the number of post, comments and votes going to go done even more. I mean steemit seems to be having problems already. Maybe you can also help me out with what cost is involved with steemit, they keep talking about cost , but have never shared what the cost are.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@valth ·
I agree with this, but I believe the comment number should be a bit higher as well. People who reply to their introduction post will easily get 10-20 comments posted on their first day.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@nigelmarkdias ·
$0.20
Thank you, for this update. @SteemitBlog
Hoping that we reach the equilibrium that  you envision, soon.
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@nokodemion ·
$0.14
I knew it, what a team!!! Good Job... and yes this new RC method is revolutionary in the Blockchain world... so yes, we need to have it...

Let the patches fall where they ... may, and our RC pools fillup like a mana pot!!!!
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@nurah ·
I can not publish two days ago why?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@nuthman ·
Something that I've noticed over the past week is that it takes a very long time to finish loading some of these posts because of the large amount of comments. I wonder if it would be better if steemit.com would load a certain number of comments; then when the user scrolls to the bottom more comments are loaded. 

I first noticed this issue earlier just after the hard for when I was using my phone to read @steemitblog posts and my phone basically would lock up for over a minute. (Galaxy S7 edge).

I don't know if this is something that is in the works, but I just wanted to mention it! 

On another note, I noticed that after I requested in another post that the red message at the top of the page get an _x_ to close it, that is was quickly added. I don't know if it was my request that prompted it, but thanks either way!
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@pakpunjab ·
nice
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@paulcaraway ·
Thank you... this is a huge step in progress... I give you all a tip of the hat. This is not easy to complete when under a lot of pressure... First of all just making a major upgrade is a challenge in itself with a lot of hours of coding, testing, debugging, code reviews, etc. I assume you are doing paired programming as well! Obviously you can not test the results until implementation time... it is hard to have a million people simulated as users! So you go live with the best solution possible. Now crunch time comes and you have to make gut changes and realtime operational adjustments to regain stability! That is greatly appreciated by those who have been in that very situation. Do you rollback or go forward! For the good of the community sometimes you have to make that tough decision! Thank you for the progress, hard work to get this project / blockchain moving forward! This will pay off in so many ways in the very near future and years to come!
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@phanthang ·
I think HF20 was okay, I was able to upvote and comment on everyone's posts.
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@pibara ·
Patch upon patch on a disasterous hardfork that should never have been accepted in the first place. Guys, take your losses. Roll back to the moment of the hardfork, figure out a way to compensate those negatively affected by a rollback and try again for HF20-lite in a few months, preferably with the current #21 to #40 witnesses as new top twenty bunch.

*Ceterum censeo HF20 esse delendam*
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@powernap ·
Thanks.  Most of us are patient and also understand - for commercial reasosns -  we must keep positive to the outside world.
I hope the patch also solves the issue of fully delegated accounts (investors) who got not enough RC to do anything.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@preppervetuk ·
This **SCREAMS** of Crisis Management.
If it isn't *fixed* quickly, users will leave.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@presse ·
There is something wrong here. A look at the course throughout the year is enough.
![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmTaZ4MVPxUVv56hcTg9BNtqhk7ezTZLJmaT3vK8nBpmki/image.png)
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@programmingvalue ·
$0.14
Love posts like these, there're always conversation with more substance than typical Steem posts.
👍  ,
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@r2cornell ·
Bunch of crap.  I have not been able to upvote comments that my followers left on last weekend's posts.  the 7 days are about up so they go without their upvote.  Many depend on it.  I picked up a lot of new followers that probably will ignore my future posts.

I see no improvement only a mess and a set up to push out those with low power.   Does not look like this fiasco was tested before going live....And it looks like it is designed to screw the newer users and those who have to withdraw a little every month to pay their bills.  Looks like it has been designed to benefit the "fat-cats".
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@rawpride ·
I would advise witnesses to reject this update. They admittedly made mistakes with this hard fork, and I don't think trying to adjust it is the proper path. They say continuity is important, but they have failed to hold that up. It is time to ROLL BACK this hard fork, and work out the errors, before re-implementing it. Proceeding with tweaks could just make this shit worse.
👍  ,
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@sircork ·
We would have to back quite a ways, and roll back the chain, that's unpossible (transactions, money has moved, content would be lost, it cannot just be flipped like a switch once the train is too far from the station. However ,it *would* have been possible, last week... like it was the week before. I know, because I'm a witness who had to do just that overnight and has been up all week sleepless, shepherding patches and confused users all over the platform, ever since.
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@rawpride ·
Compensate us for the loss of voting power for 5 days.
👍  ,
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@rembertomarsada ·
does this post mean that everybody can post right now?
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@retiredinsamar ·
You could have avoided all these HF complications by simply **Banning the Bots** a long time ago. I was right over a year ago... Bots would destoy Steemit... and it is happening.
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@rodmack ·
Let's hope that this means that efforts and time are rewarded on a higher and more realistic base, so to obtain higher and fairer rewards, and in less time.

Thank you steemitblog for your dedication and time.

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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@ronaldfung ·
Hello guys, i'm kind of new in the platform (yes, you can calle me "Newbie" if you want to) and obviously i don't fully understand the lasted news and how it will affect us! if someone couldn't mind to explain me a better, i'll be very thanksfull!
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@roundbeargames ·
you shouldn't have used the word 'successful' in one of your previous posts. this could've been handled a lot better if you simply said 'there're issues but we're working on them', which is kinda what you're doing now (it's just way overdue). 

this is the right direction because now you're acknowledging the fact that hf20 was never a success in the beginning (might be in the long term but not now) and rc is currently so overpriced minnows are completely locked out.
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@chronocrypto ·
Hard for them to come forward, only after they got so much backlash.
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@roundbeargames ·
oh the memes &#128513;
at least i had a good laugh
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing  Forward. Future Is History"
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@rwestvideo ·
i m not pleased and cannot upload to Dtube
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@rwestvideo ·
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@rycharde ·
$0.03
A lot of comments, and interesting discussions, so this may get lost. However, here goes...

Does anybody have a mathematical model of RC (and Mana, as they are coupled sometimes)?

Just the mathematics and the logic; essentially the pseudocode for the functions that affect RC.

I know they will be inside the code, but I don't read code - *before* the code there are the concepts. If the devs have created a complex system, then patches may not always have the desired effects as feedback loops start to morph the system.

I suspect there are others on Steemit who have a range of appropriate and useful skills that could be called upon to advise (or at the very least give an informed opinion) on potential icebergs.... and how to avoid them.
👍  ,
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@sircork ·
$0.04
Yep, here ya go, it's been up since May.

https://github.com/steemit/steem/wiki/RC-Bandwidth-System
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@rycharde ·
:-) Thanks!

With SMTs on the horizon, perhaps I should devote more of my resources to the intricacies of the system.
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@rynow ·
I am not sure  if multiplying the RC with 10 is the right solution, it might however be the easiest. I believe the RC system would help a lot to reduce the bidbots. (To me bidbots are against the principal of good content being rewarded, as you buy rewards and reputation, I still remember when @gavvet had the highest rep at 71 and it took him long to get there, now people get there in a few months, with bought votes) 
Can the small accounts not be given a certain fixed number of votes, comments and posts in order for them to transact. This can than be increased when the get to a certain number of SP to promote people powering up.
The RC system did not give me issues (except on the first day), my biggest issue was that my VP of 95% was reduced to zero and I like to keep my VP above 85%. My vote value was thus greatly reduced.
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@saifashraf ·
post realy nice & am understand more information
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@sam1210 ·
It really looks horrible situation. Authority should do something to stay alive in the market.
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@senseicat ·
$6.36
I wish there was a way to delegate my RC to those that need it without delegating my SP. I generated it, I should be able to delegate it.
👍  , , ,
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@valth ·
Agreed. Delegating RC would be a great feature, which could also allow for big projects like Steemmoners to delegate enough RC to their sign-ups to get them to be able to play the game without any problems.
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@fknmayhem ·
There will be. See a post by @ned around two months ago, “Steem’s secret to success” or something along those lines.

The post was very short and rather cryptic but explains a lot now. Those who follow(ed) EOS may also immediately have understood the actual meaning of that post.

> delegated bandwidth pools

That was the content of that post. Make it delegated RC and there you have a rental market soon to come. This will effectively allow SMTs to enter at a much lower cost than when they would have to invest in STEEM and power up.
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@tradealert ·
Delegating RC... will only serve to enrich those with the biggest accounts and will only manage to increase the inequality on the platform.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@seo-boss ·
The growth of this platform will not serve this development. At least I can not recognize that. The "social" we can then delete from our thoughts. I know moaning is easier than doing something. If I have something to say, which I probably do not have because of my low voting power, then I put the focus on a long-term and stable growth and above all on justice!
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@sergiomendes ·
Great news. We are all hanging in here together. I know you have been relying on the community to promote and get the STEEM network out there but now that it is easier to get people to join allowing the dapps to get sign ups on the blockchain will also the steemit Inc work on more marketing to promote our Blockchain?
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@severianx ·
I am a new user (around 100 days).

I'm sure you solved some pre existing problem with the update, but from my perspective, SteemIt moved from an old system in which if I publish I get paid in criptocurrency, to a new one in which if I want to publish I have to buy criptocurrency with my physical money.

Not cool.
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@seymuces · (edited)
i have a question. Why rewards seem 10% lower than usual? i have screenshot two posts before rewards

![bf.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmT1X27WkSnKWA9TfjgRTnMko6PgMJSjeBQUPyvXG2mytU/bf.png)

And nearly 15 minute later, rewards came. but %10 lower 

![af.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSSewguekSzRdMtxX6N9XkGJ2EBEpWrPZnuaAEkKu2XFU/af.png)

??? this is so interesting. isn't it
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@seymuces ·
Anyone ask question above? Thanks for your interested.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@shaheer001 ·
good job amazing updates
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@shares ·
fossbot voter comment
Upvoted.

DISCLAIMER: Your post is upvoted based on curation algorithm configured to find good articles e.g. stories, arts, photography, health, community, etc. This is to reward you (authors) for sharing good content using the Steem platform especially newbies.

If you're a dolphin or whales, and wish not to be included in future selection, please let me know so I can exclude your account. And if you find the upvoted post is inappropriate, FLAG if you must. This will help a better selection of post.

Keep steeming good content.
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@valued-customer ·
Howdy @shares.  I reckon you might add whether or not a post declines rewards to your algo(s).  Your upvote will be burned on this post.  You may not want that.

If you do, please disregard.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@skipweston ·
What is Steemit.com?  Is a Social Network or a digital currency outlet ?
First let my say I'm a Macro Economist and I find the Steemit currency system complex & confusing.   It appears the system encourages a pyramid scheme culture.  The focus is to get as many followers as possible and a barter system to receive up votes.  Vote for me and I will vote for you.  Regardless of content.  I estimate 98% of my followers have no interest in Economics.  I spend a majority of my time giving valuable information to investors about the true economy.  I post my steemit links to sites like Marketwatch.com and zerohedge.com to help promote Steemit.com and  I tell people to google my blog the Watchman Letter.  but what value is that promotion in the Steemit Platform.  The current ranking of Steemit is in the 3,000's on Alexa.com.   I sign up for Steemit.com because I believed in the mission of a Social Network void of Corporate and Political Controls like facebook.  But Steemit will not have any legitimacy until the focus is gaining membership popularity outside the realm of Steemit.   
Lastly, here is some information from my blog I posted 9 months ago in regards to Bitcoin Manipulation.
I posted a Red Alert warning on November 28th and December 1st to Bitcoin Investors.
"The Bitcoin community believes the CFTC approval will give Bitcoin legitimate status as a currency.
Question: Why has the Banksters and CFTC have a change of heart in regards to Bitcoin?
Bitcoin is the only market that the Central Banks are unable to manipulate, but on December 10th, 2017 that will change.
Bitcoin will have the same price manipulation just like Gold & Silver prices since 1971.
The Central Banks will not tolerate any competition to their worthless Fiat Currencies."

I was shocked that the Bitcoin price correction took place within 4 days of the CBOE Bitcoin futures launch. I thought the Banksters would have waited a couple of months at least. I think the attack on Bitcoin was a two prong approach. I believe the Central Banks have been accumulating Bitcoins for the past couple of months preparing for the futures Launch. The Banks have unlimited printed fiat paper to purchase any asset class including Bitcoin. Remember the Bitcoin market is control by only 1000 people. It is a small market compared to Gold & Silver. Which makes it easy for the Banksters to manipulate.
The only positive take a way by this criminal act, is that the Central Banks are losing control of their Fiat Monetary Ponzi Scheme. Currently the Banks are trying to prop up the Bond Market, which is 3 times larger than the Equities Market. The fact that the banks are purchasing Bonds and Equities proves the Financial System is Insolvent.

God Bless you & your family,
Weston
👍  ,
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@socky ·
$0.20
Exchanges cannot transfer STEEM because their nodes are down since the STEEM blockchain issue before the hard fork. If Steemit inc isn't competent enough to support exchanges to get their STEEM nodes back on line, then Steemit inc certainly isn't competent enough to be rolling out a hard fork. 

Steemit inc needs a real leader. Please do us all a favor and hire a CEO that can get the job accomplished.
👍  ,
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@sorin.cristescu ·
$0.20
Yesss ! That's _at least_ the second time when I fully agree with @socky !!! :-)
👍  
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@socky ·
Source @penguinpablo 
https://steemit.com/steemit/@penguinpablo/daily-steem-stats-report-friday-september-28-2018
![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXRhJ6EeBSa2NsPsRv41fLaHCXm3QjDApK7CEhdiX8HJ9/image.png)

I'm glad you agree. See how there is ZERO transfers of STEEM from exchanges (orange). I wonder if Steemit Inc thinks that this is a problem.
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@socky ·
Another problem is some of these exchanges don't have enough SP. This means that they can't generate enough RC and keep up with transfers even if their nodes were back in operation.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@sonvale ·
I'm really confused between so much information, maybe because I'm still very recent in Steemit and most of the information is in English that is not my native language. I'm just waiting to publish my post and know what happened to the benefits that are not so many because I'm starting. I hope not to be discouraged, particularly I have many illusions with the content that was generating because I am a teacher and I like to teach. I hope everything works soon.
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@sorin.cristescu ·
Steemit, before HF20 the main dissenting voice was @nextgencrypto. It would seem that you managed to increase the ranks of unhappy witnesses.

https://steemit.com/witness-update/@reggaemuffin/witness-statement-for-reggaemuffin-proposing-hardfork-adoption-requirements

https://steemit.com/steem/@ura-soul/improving-steem-s-hard-fork-process-where-s-the-documentation-decentralisation-in-theory-only

If Steemit had been a Japanese company they would have all made a public act of contrition by now and maybe bowed out in shame
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@ats-david ·
$0.24
>Steemit, before HF20 the main dissenting voice was @nextgencrypto. It would seem that you managed to increase the ranks of unhappy witnesses.

Hey! Don’t forget about me! 

>If Steemit had been a Japanese company they would have all made a public act of contrition by now and maybe bowed out in shame

Seppuku is a reasonable option as well.
👍  ,
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@sorin.cristescu ·
Yes, but you like guns. I'm European, Europeans don't like guns! :p

Seppuku is performed with a traditional knife. Here my present for the Steemit Inc. team:
![seppuku-knife.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmPoWfB2MkeWZikEsM6SxXxpms3B8ZF1x6mS1vaKST9uDC/seppuku-knife.jpg)
 
Indeed, sorry I forgot to mention you! :-)
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@sorin.cristescu ·
I've put my "approval" where my mouth is 
Despite your love of guns ... :p
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@steem.lol ·
Can we all 10x our coins too?
👍  
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@steem.services · (edited)
Hello @steemitblog, is Steemit Inc. working on adding a Steemit Shop feature in the near future? Or is one of the SMTs going to go for this project? Having a social marketplace platform integrated on the Steem blockchain with carrier tracking and escrow services would be very welcome. 

Would help to compete with platforms like FB shops, Etsy, etc.

Also, other blockchains are also focusing on ecommerce, such as Cybermiles (CMT). They already have online stores where one can buy anything with CMT and get up to 100% cashback in ETH on all purchases. That is huge! Would be nice if Steem could have something similar. It would tremendously increase the demand for Steem and SBD.
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@steemflow ·
$0.03
Does introducing The 10x RC multiplication  sink RC further to zero for fresh start?
We minnows already get binded with limited engagement due to low RC and with each comments the RC sinks more.....how we gonna survive? And with limited engagement from each user part how steemit run?

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@andrarchy ·
No! Precisely the opposite, everyone will be able to engage 10 times MORE after this change. The entire point of this change is to enable people like you to transact a whole lot more, really soon.
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@davemccoy ·
I have recorded your answer for posterity.  I hope you are right and you sure seem like you are confident.  We will see ;)
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@dynamicgreentk ·
For example when you buy sp, at least in my case leasing from the market, you need to wait for that to charge. Is that going to change? @ned

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@steemflow ·
Wish so.. @andrarchy its getting complicated till it it get streamline. Today i learned, getting delegation will improve my RC but not my powering up....so who gonna power up when there is no benefit at all.....

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@steemflow ·
Thanks @andrarchy seems the new patches help me recover my RC to 100 % overnight. It was 12 % and now it reaches 100...however there is still fluctuation on each comment...need to check how it behave if we commenting more

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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
Aswe all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@steemitgeek ·
Force people for powering up is not a good idea. I am here not more than two months, also planning to invest more, but looks like it was a very bad idea. 

I can make only one comment today. LOL
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@steemitqa ·
Everything is coming back together. People have to realize we still sit on a world class blockchain.
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@steemitqa ·
Ned, don't sweat it. Everyone has it out for you and the team. Blockchain isn't easy. Nobody has the perfect solution. 
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@steemybot ·
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@stellabelle ·
The title should be “Restoring Sanity”

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@sugarfix ·
Do you notice how there have been almost no one with a rep below 45 posting on this thread? That is because until now we couldn't. You haven't been able to see our complaints because we were denied a forum. 

As I (and many others) have a limited number of posts it's highly likely that I won't be able to respond to anyone that replies to this post. I'm sure that some people with power/daddy issues will take advantage of that fact. I'm guessing it's going to be the same twaddle that I have been reading the past couple of days on these threads. "People should invest in the platform ....blah, blah, ........it's not free you know ......blah, blah, blah .......it's a privilege to post here.....blah blah blah ......we create value". 

Oddly enough Facebook doesn't have zero costs either but staff aren't telling users "Look you ungrateful pleb we are graciously (sic) allowing you to be here out of the kindness of our hearts and our pockets" like arrogant f*&^*&$ds.

You either want a platform for blogging that takes off into the mainstream or you want an investment vehicle that functions only for a circle-jerking clique. No noobie will ever invest in a plutarchy that has rolled up the carpet and vacuums up the value of anything invested.

Velocity was an appropriate name for the fork as people have speeded out the door to other platforms. Here is where you say "people will be back when the price goes up. We have been through this before" Except you haven't. In the past there was no competition. There is now and if the barriers to entry and progression are lower on the platforms they have gone to then they aren't coming back as they will have outgrown Steemit. Chrome wasn't the first browser, it wasn't even the second or third but it sure is the browser with the most market share now.

Businesses that survive are the ones that recognize cock-up and act on them. Ones that stick their fingers in their ears while yelling "lalalalala" don't.

*Rant over.
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@sugitv ·
Well hopefully the bugs will be over soon
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@super-grand-ad ·
https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://steemitimages.com/DQmaxbn2X4FYDfLB432oxmfAaDxsM6eY6CYqLsLKYxHEKes/SUPER-GRAND-AD%20LOGO.jpg?r=super-grand-ad
Thank you for the HF20 update Blog - keeping the new steemits informed what is going on - This is my first ( since joining ) experience of such a big update and I must admit did cause me concern - getting a popup advert -buy more steem power to post, comment and use steemit - ADvert - With such a low power as mine I though, here we go, this is a way to block me having interaction, for just speaking my mind about bad bots that pray on making everyone  think you have to buy resteems to get Followers ( which is just not true ) I resteem for free, if the post/blog meets the 7 day post/blogging time to get payment for anyone's latest current post/blog - and I have been downvoted by those that do not like the truth about resteeming and getting followers, that is why my power is so low, watch this reply to see what I mean as and when it happens, - 
I have re:steem'ed your very informative post, 
So to see your resteem click my green @super-grand-ad
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@supersex ·
I need to learn english xD hahaha
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@surfermarly · (edited)
$0.12
Great action multiplying resource budgets!

With regards to *fair pricing* : 

I know you're busy rolling out the new patch now, but I really think that one of your next tasks should be *education*. The banner on top of the Steemit.com UI is a great gimmick, but a new user wouldn't understand half of what you're saying in this post (just because they don't have our level of knowledge).

Limiting resources according to the stake is a great tool in order to foster invest, however it needs to be explained properly. Remembering my first day on Steem I swear I had no idea what Steem Power was or how I could increase it. Yet back in 2016 we could at least ask questions for free.

I would appreciate if all new users were specifically taught what *powering up in order to increase ressource credits* effectively means (e.g. providing them with professional tutorials). Also only a tiny minority knows that they can go check their mana on steemd.com and similar service providers. We - the community - can help to inform people, but you have the power (and RCs) to direct their attention towards a **virtual class room**, for instance.

Thanks to the Steem ecosystem we're even able to incentivate the actions we wanna see. So why not inviting people to visit such a virtual class room, to watch some tutorials with the main info about how everything works and then do a short test after it. You can then reward people with some fresh SP if they provide the correct answers which will teach them an important lesson right from the start: **engagement is profitable**!

**You said *gamification* - well then let's make this become a game right from the start...**

*Steem on* 🤙
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@papilloncharity ·
@surfermarly as an old gentle soul that's trying to keep our charity afloat, most of the chat here is way over my head. Fortunately we have people of integrity, including @paulag that always stand ready to lend a helping hand! She will be ideal for this job!
👍  
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@paulag ·
$0.04
thank you @sircork, @stellabelle and @papilloncharity, guess I have some work to get started on
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@paulag ·
$0.19
Im up for taking action on this @surfermarly. Professional tutorials and all. 

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@sircork ·
And you'd do a helluva good job of it too.
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@stellabelle ·
You’re hired.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in  'oneness...Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@suzobo ·
Good project
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@sweetsandbeyond ·
The only thing I would like to be able to accomplish is to post and comment under desired post. I cannot do it! It has been too many days... 
Help!
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@swelker101 · (edited)
Since this requires a replay, there's going to be pitchforks and dunkings like we haven't seen since the Salem Witch Trials.
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@llfarms ·
Just hearing the word replay makes me want to open a bottle.. just not sure what bottle to open at the moment 🤔

But hopefully after this everyone can put their pitichforks away.. at least for a bit.
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@viraldrome ·
Tar and featherings too
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@tachido25 ·
I was intrigued, I thought that I would not recover my cunta, but I will try to be more constant in my publications. greetings to all steemit
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@tachido25 ·
Hi, I'm not an expert on this but what I see that many publish to reach more audience and it's good, I do not go much to publish but I try to stick it well not to publish things that I would not give a message, but to give your I go to that the cresca platform is good, see the publications and what they like most, vote for it.
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@taphophilia ·
I only have one thing to say: **Fork the Forking Forkers!**
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@tatjana.lackner ·
aha ... from what I understood  ... things are going down, right?
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@tatjana.lackner ·
aha ... from what I understood  ... things are going down, right?
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@tdiv7653 ·
I think you know you screwed this up and it was a terrible idea.  If 4 out 5 posts are negative about this hard fork, you lost.   I hate to have to say this since I have truly believed in the platform but this seems like an exit move.  You literally just mde the rich richer and gave the poor less options.  Way to go on this.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@tecnosgirl ·
$0.96
Getting not enough rc credits to power up needs to be fixed. If powering up gives more rc credits people will be more likely to power up. But if you can't power up when low on RC then it kind of lowers engagement. I do a lot of promoting for steemit give away a ton of steem swag and I can already see a difference in entries for the lastest item it was suppose to be in honor of the hf. The comments of those who I know love this platform is very telling. It is like us little people who work hard to grow the platform but don't have tens of thousands of dollars don't matter. I hope this will fix those issues. I love this platform but the last few days have sucked. Just being honest.
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@littlescribe ·
$0.25
I agree. The comments are very telling. I say we wait it out and see how things balance over the next week or so. But if what I suspect is true, they've changed the model entirely from a "newbie centered" platform, to an "investor centered" platform. 
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@tecnosgirl ·
I am hoping things stablize and I am seeing some positive signs my RC restored to 100%
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@stellabelle ·
The depth of failure is so immense, I didn’t think this was even possible.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@tecnosgirl ·
@stellabelle I am in wait and see mode right now but I hope this gets fixed if low on credits people should be able to power up, I have to be very careful what I respond to, but this issue I hope the ones who can do something about it does cause this isn't right, so many of us has spent so many hours inside and outside the platform promoting it that just because we don't have lots of money to invest we don't matter as much. I know this was meant to cut down on spam, but this didn't work very well because it also punished those who add value to the platform, though I might not be the best content creator, I am original and promote the shit out of steemit. I have invested hundreds of dollars over the last year in steem swag merch to giveaway, I refuse to sell it and give it away in contests and giveaways paying for the shipping without requiring much at all, including not requiring an upvote to enter for the love of he platform. Yeah, I am a little salty, this should post as I haven't posted much today, but I keep getting errors when I shouldn't so who knows. I still love steemit and I hope all these issues gets resolved. But I won't be able to sustain these giveaways if this keeps up.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@th1nkfast ·
$0.03
One of my teachers in college used to say:
>"If you didnt find any bugs, your not testing enough"
We need more testing before doing the changes, maybe having a testnet where the community can hunt for bugs.
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@the01crow ·
<center>


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429630971227275265/495071992593252394/unknown.png

Seeing how much rc I have left and this is my only available comment, I'm glad to know that soon they would solve the limitation I think that's why I have only 17 comments, and have at least 10 times more of that is great, This is a social network, and we have a need to interact, wishing you the best, and make the necessary changes.
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@amvanaken ·
$0.05
Mana-banned for aggrandizement.
👍  ,
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@mstafford ·
![godswork](https://media.giphy.com/media/7TtvTUMm9mp20/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095bada0647753394a419f69df)
👍  
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@writtenments ·
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@writtenments ·
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@theodosiskatq ·
thanks for the info
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@thermoplastic · (edited)
I am just hoping for the best, and blowing whatever I have in RC's on sharing, upvoting and commenting on this comment. I am still reluctant to compose a post only to get the pop-up that I don't have enough RC to post, lol
So for now, I am using [WEKU as my sandbox](https://deals.weku.io/@artofthemystic) until things settle down here.
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@writtenments ·
As we move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@thethreehugs · (edited)
Thanks for the update.  We appreciate all your hard work.
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@tngflx · (edited)
Fixed one thing, another thing arised... :( I wonder why there is a testnet in first place..
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@tonytrillions · (edited)
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@tradealert ·
> That means within 24 hours witnesses can prepare to run the new code and deliver the improved user experience that Steemians want.

I guess by that you meant: return to the normal user experience.

Btw, are we going to see a RC dellegation market emerge which will, again, benefit those with the bigger accounts...
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@transisto · (edited)
$13.07
For details on all changes in HF20 : 
https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20
👍  ,
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@travoved ·
Good day! Honestly I'm a little bit confused with new rules of Steem eco after HF20. So can you tell more detail to people what they need to do to get some much mana as it possible? How to get more RC? Do they need make more comments or votes?
Maybe it will be more clear if we will have some road map how to return our accounts to normal conditions step by step...

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@valued-customer ·
I note that currently commenting and voting costs RC, not pays it.  Voting and commenting lower your RC.

Go figger...
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@tyramisoux ·
$0.03
looks like there is still some missunderstanding (or even bug?) with the mana stuff.
One example:
API returns
'current_mana': 109210831230,
'estimated_mana': 126474130595,
'estimated_max': 222766110968, 
Some hours ago beem-library as well as steemd returned
100/estimated_mana  * current_mana = 49%
and steemworld as well as steemnow returned
100/estimated_max * currentmana = 86%
now things changed - even more strange:
steemd/beem return a 56%
steemworld and steemnow return 100%
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@unclefz ·
Hello friends with good heart for the new steemians like us. I need your help. If there are other platforms similar to steemit that encouraged content creators, and where one can also earn while discussing, arguing, and playing with friends, please list them so that we can have somewhere that still offers newbies an opportunity to grow until this greedy intended FH20 will be reconsidered or in case it will never be reconsidered.
And can somebody also help us to know in case a good number of whales will decide to come together to form a similar platform or alternative to steemit. I want to start on such platform early enough so that when I become a witness on that platform or whatever name they would name the big players on that platform, I would fight with all I've got against any greedy intended upgrades. But as for steemit, I have no power to cause any changes.
👍  
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@rocketblog · (edited)
ONO platform. The reward system is good

https://www.ono.chat/ono/invite/?lang=en&pos=en#/catch/uid/100115500

Invite code: 1QFK
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@unclefz ·
Thanks alot. I appreciate.
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@usman93 ·
Hope improvements will completed soon. So we will enjoy STEEMIT with new features and changes. And I hope spamming will be reduced because of fixing comments level as compare with user's Mana. STEEMIT will be more pure. Best of luck 👍.
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@mediawizards ·
so how many comments we can per day?
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@usman93 ·
So sorry. They have change it again. It was clearly written in steemd.com until last night.
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@usman93 ·
You can now check in your steemd.com. below resource cradits
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@valth ·
Thanks for all the communications during the problems we have seen with HF20! It sucks when there is a problem with the blockchain, but at least I feel a lot more reassured when I see a few updates from @steemitblog along the way.
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@vikisecrets ·
Move in the right direction 👍 10x RC will hopefully make Steem useable again, thx for the quick updates, but better testnet is essential for future upgrades.
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@vikisecrets · (edited)
Also rename Voting Mana to Voting Power again, Mana is too confusing. Or just call it Voting Credits.
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@viraldrome ·
$0.19
The idea steem could replace bitcoin has never seemed as far fetched unrealistic as it does this week. I think I bet on the wrong horse
👍  ,
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@frdem3dot0 ·
if you think steem will replace bitcoin you are very much on the wrong horse, but not because of HF20. Steem was never competing against btc, it is competing against twitter or reddit.
👍  
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@marillaanne ·
You dropped a word. Badly. It is competing badly.
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@viraldrome ·
The idea it could replace any social media site is laughable
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@xsgreen-cook ·
Last night before I went to bed, my voting power was over 50%. My lease expired and I got undelegated overnight, and now my voting power is 6%. WTF!?!
👍  
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@xsgreen-cook ·
I never upvote my own comments, but I think this should be bumped closer to the top.
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@zeusalpha · (edited)
What about compensation for those of us who were unable to post and lost revenue as a result?
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@valued-customer ·
LOL

Perhaps the TOS leaves that open, but I don't think so.  Enjoy your arbitration!  
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@zorank ·
With 203,255,391,671 RC (about 107 SP) after full recharge I'll be able to make just approx. 14 comments in few days (maybe 2 to 3 comments per day), without posting, following or upvoting actions. 

It seems therefor that we will all in general spend much less time in Steem blockchain. Hope my calculation is wrong, but I'm afraid it is not. 

This means that Steem will become a very close community of few whales and dolphins. So unless I will buy significant sum of Steem on market, I will have only very limited access and can make very little interaction within blockchain users.
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@anadaych ·
I agree 100 %. I don't see why they think more users will come to Steem platform and that **price of STEEM** will go up. The price **will go down** this way, as there will be only few limited number of persons, who will want to invest in Steem under this conditions. 

Why would somebody invest in platform, which only few whales and dolphins will be using on daily basis?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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@th1nkfast ·
$0.03
I have the same concern as you, and I think that most minnows and bigger investors have it too. @steemitblog, @ned, can someone please address whats the plans to fix this issue, and how this will help steem?
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@writtenments ·
As we all move ahead in 'oneness..."Reversing Forward. Future Is History"
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