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HF21 and the Steem Vision by yabapmatt

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HF21 and the Steem Vision
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The next proposed Hard Fork of the Steem blockchain has two parts - the Steem Proposal System (SPS) and the Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP). @timcliff did a great job of explaining what those two parts consist of [in this post](https://steemit.com/hf21/@timcliff/hardfork-21-steem-proposal-system-sps-economic-improvement-proposal-eip) so I am not going to go over that here and instead recommend that you read his post to learn more about the issues and the proposed changes.

## The Big Picture

When deciding what changes to implement, or not to implement, I think it's important to start looking at things from a high level perspective. What are the grand goals and vision for Steem? How do we get there? What is currently holding us back?

Steem is an application-specific blockchain. We are not and should not try to directly compete with general purpose smart contract platforms like Ethereum, EOS, and Tron. Instead we should strive to be the de-facto place people go to if they want to build a user-friendly website or app that rewards users for contributions utilizing cryptocurrency and blockchain technology. This is the vision for Steem. This is what Smart Media Tokens are all about.

I look at Steem as being something like WordPress whereas platforms like Ethereum and EOS are more like Amazon Web Services. Sure, you can build a blog site hosted on Amazon Web Services, but it usually makes much more sense to build it on a platform like WordPress which is specifically tailored to what you're trying to do.

There's been a lot of noise around here about the recently announced "Voice" project (for obvious reasons) but while that may be a competitor for steemit.com, it doesn't seem to me to be a competitor to Steem. Voice may be very successful and attract a lot of people, but it does nothing for the brands, businesses, or communities who want to have their own experience tailored to their specific use case and reward their userbase for their contributions in a decentralized manner. That's where Steem comes in.

The best part is that we've already gotten a decent amount of market validation for this concept. There are a significant number of organizations that have either forked the Steem blockchain since SMTs aren't yet available or that are still waiting around for them. That tells me that we're onto something and that it's worth it to continue down this path. 

## How do we get there? 

Obviously, we need to actually build and release SMTs. Steemit, Inc is supposedly back to working on them, which is great, and as stakeholders and witnesses, @aggroed and myself have been working on Steem Engine and SCOT to try to allow the organizations that are waiting for SMTs to get started and stay on Steem until the real SMTs are ready.

But achieving that vision requires more than just building it. Ever since I have been involved with Steem it seems that it has had an "if you build it, they will come" attitude. But I've found that things rarely work that way. I've seen many great products fail because people never even know about them, and many poor products ultimately succeed simply because they are good at marketing.

When I look at Steem, I see a platform that is on par or better in nearly every applicable metric than almost every other cryptocurrency platform in existence - except for the token price. 

I believe that's because people just frankly don't know about Steem...even within the relatively small cryptocurrency community. I go to a large number of blockchain and cryptocurrency events and it is extremely rare to find anyone there who knows much of anything about Steem. You're lucky to get an "oh yea, I've heard of that", and even then half of the time they're thinking of the game platform.

If we want to achieve our vision, we need to make sure that everyone knows about Steem, understands the vision, and believes that Steem has what it takes to make it happen.

## What Is Holding Us Back?

Up until recently, everyone has pretty much been looking to SteemIt, Inc to do everything that Steem needs from core development to app developpment to marketing. This makes sense since they have by far the most resources of anyone on the platform and the most stake in it, but, regardless, it hasn't happened.

In 2019 they have been doing much better from a development perspective, but as I said earlier, it will take much more than that to achieve our vision. The Steem community is doing its best to take on the other pieces necessary to get us to where we want to be, but without adequate funding the chances for success are very low.

This is why I believe that Steem desperately needs an adequately funded worker proposal system. If you think that there's a lot of great development happening on the Steem platform now, imagine how much more there could be if there was funding available for it. 

We need to compete with all of the other blockchains who are actively going out and offering funding for app developers to come to their platforms. We need to fund partnerships, integrations, and initiatives that get the word out and make sure everyone knows about what's going on here and share in the vision for what Steem can become.

## The Economic Improvement Proposal

I was one of only two top witnesses who voted "NO" for the EIP in [this unofficial poll](https://steemit.com/dpoll/@cervantes/as-a-top-steem-witness-will-you-support-a-hardfork-implementing-the-economic-improvement-proposal-or-eip). It's not because I necessarily believe that the changes are bad (I do believe that a separate downvote pool would be good, for example) but because I just don't think it's what we should be focusing our time and effort on right now.

While we're spending time messing around with parameters that a very small number of people actually understand or care about, Steem will  continue its steady decline as the rest of the world flocks to the platforms that understand user experience and marketing.

In a grand vision of Steem where millions of people are playing Splinterlands, sharing pictures on Appics, posting reviews on SteemHunt, logging their workout on Actifit, and so much more - all of which are using their own tokens with their own individual economies powered by Steem - does the curation split or reward curve of the STEEM token really matter? Does it help us achieve that goal or does it distract from it?

That being said, it seems clear that the vast majority of the top witnesses are in favor of releasing the EIP as part of the next hard fork. If that is the case, I will fully support it and do my part to ensure it's tested thoroughly and rolled out smoothly.

## In Conclusion

I've talked to a few large crypto hedge funds and investors in the past and their general criteria for investment is pretty simple and fairly consistent - what is the vision / potential for the project and, more importantly, do they believe there's a good chance it will be realized.

Steem has years of history behind it showing a lack of clear vision and a lack of execution that we have to overcome, but if we focus on the vision and put our resources and funding where it is most needed, I firmly believe we can do it.

If we can show the world that we have the potential to become the leading platform for websites and apps that want to take advantage of blockchain and crypto, I believe that the valuation of the STEEM token will quickly rise up to where it should be in comparison with other blockchain platforms with similar metrics.

With that in mind, I will continue to push for an HF21 that includes the SPS and not the EIP; however, if a super-majority of the top witnesses chooses to implement both then I will support their decision, work towards a smooth rollout, and then continue working towards achieving our vision.
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@abasinkanga ·
Well said sir. The EIP bothers with metrics people dont really understand anyway... But the SPS is just the breath of fresh air steem needs.
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@alokkumar121 ·
Thanks for sharing the update about HF21 and I am pretty sure that these changes are for the betterment of STEEM. Steem has come a long way and it's the future of internet.

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@amahovac93 ·
Resteemed!

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@arcange ·
Congratulations @yabapmatt!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steem Hit Parade](/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20190604) in the following category:

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@beeyou · (edited)
I wanted to wait until the weekend so I could digest your shared witness thoughts, but somehow, the weekend passed by in a blur and it is Monday again. Carving some time out now.

I did a cursory glance on EIP when it was introduced by steemit inc, but the topic didn't hold my interest. We do seem to be discussing the same topics on reward pool curve and downvoting, all topics related to blogging. The traffic on steem these days are from dapps, so who will benefit from EIP? Not the thousands of users that realize blogging is not their forte.

I guess no one really cares that the steemian that proposed the EIP has spent the last year (or more maybe) self voting with his alt account nearly 100% of the time. He may have had the "good" interest of the steem blockchain at the start but later adopted the "if people do it, heck, I will too" attitude later on when there were no changes. Hard to have faith into such a proposal.

The reason why I believe in you as a witness is because you care about the small and big users here on the steem blockchain, but more importantly, you see areas that could be improved and you take action. As we've already seen, some people see abuse and follow suit. You on the other hand, take the visionary path to build and improve the ecosystem. Case in point, steem engine and SCOT. Let's not forget about Splinterlands, which is the reason why I'm even still here on the steem blockchain. Thank you for everything @yabapmatt! :)
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@beeyou ·
I wonder if our browser is tracked with having no ad-blocks on and the advertisement now  tailored to the user? Earlier I was browsing backyard patio enclosures on google chrome (no ad-blocker on) and now I'm seeing advertisement at the top of the Steemit site for patio enclosures at Home Depot. I don't mind clicking on them but it does remind me of Facebook now with the tailored ads.

Anywho, hope you are well!
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@bestbroplayer ·
Great to see some people see bigger picture from witnesses. I think big problem is that all the problems are considered here to be caused by some algorithm, that supposedly a vote-seller will stop selling votes if you change algorithm. Human is here reduced to some cog that spins according to algorithm and if something does not happen as is wanted, it is a technical problem.
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@blockchainstudio ·
> but because I just don't think it's what we should be focusing our time and effort on right now.
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> While we're spending time messing around with parameters that a very small number of people actually understand or care about, Steem will continue its steady decline as the rest of the world flocks to the platforms that understand user experience and marketing.

I can't agree with you more. Moreover, that EIP (which consists of three different agendas) was surveyed as a package, which was another problem that made people difficult to say no.
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@borislavzlatanov ·
Do you think Steemit, Inc. providing a larger donation (several million STEEM) to the worker proposal fund will be a good approach?
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@chireerocks ·
@yabapmatt, **VOICE** is not competitor of **Steem** if still anyone have doubts regarding it. The most important thing is, no matter what we think or don't think change should be arrive or change will arrive itself.

I am not good in **Marketing** or never pursued those skills but no matter which business, to reach masses we need **Marketing**. We are lacking Users on Steem Blockchain due to lack of Marketing, whatever Steemians are doing that's appreciable too because we all know that we see effective numbers on this platform but it's not enough for **Huge Marketing** (Collectively with proposed channel of marketing can be thinkable point) because we don't have any Institutional Investors or Giant Promotion Companies, so with this Decentralised Ecosystem we will see slow progress but in my opinion ground work will give strong foundation for the future.

Good to know that you are ready to cooperate with other **Witnesses** to carryon with both models smoothy if possible. And at this point of time we need **Togetherness** more than ever because we are already watching the **Breakdown System** of Centralised Platforms and many are losing their expression and voice on these platforms. This is the practical time to show the true light of **Steem** and to let the world know that there is a platform where every voice is heard.

At last i really agree with you on one point and that is **Steem Blockchain** is **Factory Of Applications** and Businesses and Communities can Monetise their user interfaces with the help of **Smart Media Token Protocol**.

Your development efforts and view points are really appreciable. Stay blessed.

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@coruscate · (edited)
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Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts, Matt! First off - I want to mention how refreshing it was to read an update from a top witness that was succinct, convicting, and not overly technical.  

There is one point I want to offer a different perspective on though.  I used to think that a lot of the crypto community just didn't know about Steem - and if they did, things would be different. Basically, I just thought we needed to get the word out. 

I've been getting out into the greater crypto community a lot more lately at different events, meetups, and online and have found most people I meet (including investors) are *well* aware of Steem. I know they aren't mistaking it for Steam because we usually have a conversation about it and they'll mention Dtube or blogging. The general consensus I've found from people is that they looked into Steem once and were super unimpressed... so they moved on. A quote I've heard from a few people is... 

> "I have no doubt in the technology, but have zero faith in the leadership or direction." 

As you point out in this post - we need to show the greater crypto community that we *do* have direction and develop a differentiating factor from other blockchains that can "seemingly" do similar things. 

So I've changed my perception that we "just' need to get the word out. That is obviously still important, but I think we also need a major PR overhaul with the crypto community to show what we are *really* capable of.  I have my own ideas of how we could do this - but that's a conversation for another day!
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@yabapmatt ·
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Well in either case I doubt the reason that they're not using or investing in STEEM is because of the posting reward / curation algorithms and I don't think any amount of messing with those algorithms will get them to start. If we get a whole bunch of cool, well funded apps on the platform and show serious growth and potential and make sure everyone knows about it, the price will start to follow, and that will get more attention and attract more people and development and it will continue from there.

We can't just tell people that Steem will be great, because they've heard that before and it hasn't panned out, so now we have to actually make it happen.
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@coruscate ·
Maybe “Show not Tell” should me our motto right now. lol

I think you are spot on that just talking more about Steem’s capabilities won’t do much - but showing actual development and traction of cool dapps will do a lot of the talking for us.
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@smidge-tv ·
Steem will never be great , the whole system is way too corrupt and people don't want to be part of it PERIOD . You can tweak what ever you want , it is not going to help
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@smidge-tv · (edited)
at the end of the day , platforms that do good/honest job will be successful . the ones who lie , steal and cheat (steem) will go away
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@smidge-tv ·
any explanation for this ?
https://steemit.com/steem/@smidge-tv/after-exposing-berniesanders-kawaiicrush-suddenly-lost-all-rc-credits-wow
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@costanza ·
$0.49
Great to see a witness agrees with most smaller and mid-sized accounts and NOT support the EIP! You got my witness vote, and unvoted everyone who supports that. I really believe the reward curve change and the 50/50 split has a high risk of messing up a lot of the dynamics everyone built upon the last few years. The linear reward curve even though it has it's flaws, gives a high sense of control and predictability. This idea that it all needs to be about quality content discovery in my view won't work. None of the bigger social media platforms are abou that. What it looks like is that this EIP will make it even harder for new accounts to get something going. I hope some witnesses still change their mind on it.
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@crypto.piotr ·
Dear @yabapmatt

> I've seen many great products fail because people never even know about them, and many poor products ultimately succeed simply because they are good at marketing.

Yep. And yet majority of companies seem not to understand power of marketing and their marketing budgets are very limited.

> We need to compete with all of the other blockchains who are actively going out and offering funding for app developers to come to their platforms.

Hard not to agree. Is Steemit Inc actually dunfing any app developments at the moment? Any idea? Just curious.

Seriously great read. Upvote on the way.
Yours,
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@cryptohazard ·
>but it does nothing for the brands, businesses, or communities who want to have their own experience tailored to their specific use case and reward their userbase for their contributions in a decentralized manner

I don't think Steem achieve that either. I feel like Steemit,Inc didn't use enough or promote interaction in the community. I mean all blockchains try to get a decent and active community while a social network somehow already has it. Well now look where we are. I am not even sure how to get better nowadays. I don't believe in SMT but I still support the efforts the community do to implement them.

Let's see where we go from here.
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@danieldedosd2 ·
Thank you for keeping us informed about all the updates that come for the platform, or rather the expectations that the people who really work to support this wonderful social network have ... I am a simple musician who makes and creates music to keep me happy and I live in Venezuela with all the problems that we live here every day if I did not have this place to live and dream, I think I would have left the music aside. I thank in the soul that this place exists.
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@danielvehe ·
I love this post because it is the same as I think. What Steem needs most is marketing to ordinary people who still do not know about crypto, explained in a simple way.

Now I ask you @yabapmatt, do you think that marketing should be focused on dapps specifically or Steem as an ecosystem?

Users or communities that want to promote should look for a dapp to promote it or should they do it with Steem? Which do you think is more effective?

You have my vote witness, thanks for this post
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@valued-customer ·
>"What Steem needs most is marketing to ordinary people who still do not know about crypto, explained in a simple way."

Steem is marketed by the content creators produce, and that is as simple as it gets.  However, profiteers extract ~90% of the rewards and EIP proposes increasing this by another 40% of the remaining rewards available to creators.  All that value is extracted from the marketing of Steem, and does not enable capital gains (increasing the value of Steem).

Social media has proved to be the most profitable business in the world today.  The FAANGs rise to power is entirely from social media.  It is profiteering extracting the rewards before they are able to increase the price of Steem that prevents Steem from producing capital gains it's blockchain excellence and use case make possible.
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  <p>You're upping the drama to new levels! Have a DRAMA.</p>
  <p><sup>To view or trade <code>DRAMA</code> go to <a href="https://steem-engine.com/?p=market&t=DRAMA">steem-engine.com</a>.</sup></p>
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@exyle ·
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> In a grand vision of Steem where millions of people are playing Splinterlands, sharing pictures on Appics, posting reviews on SteemHunt, logging their workout on Actifit, and so much more - all of which are using their own tokens with their own individual economies powered by Steem - does the curation split or reward curve of the STEEM token really matter? 

Thank you for speaking up as the current #1 witness and probably as one of the best ones we got. The above doesn't matter at all in the bigger picture and it's distracting from current goals Steemit inc. explicit said have more priority. 

One other point on the EIP is that it might make content discovery better. But considering this is an app-specific blockchain I fail to see what that has to do with apps.

Also, nobody knows 'for sure' what will happen and the 'hope' is that people will change their behavior. But none of this matters long term because apps will have their own token and economics.

But what if instead of making the current economics better it turns out to make it worse. Is this thought even considered in the decision-making process? Wouldn't that be something? What kind of message would that send and how much time will be spent fixing that.

Predicting human behavior by changing rules is extremely difficult. Just because we can control computer code doesn't mean we can control irrational/emotional human behavior. 

> If we can show the world that we have the potential to become the leading platform for websites and apps that want to take advantage of blockchain and crypto, I believe that the valuation of the STEEM token will quickly rise up to where it should be in comparison with other blockchain platforms with similar metrics.

With Splinterlands you guys are sure showing that. Thanks for that and thanks for being a witness for Steem.
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@silentscreamer · (edited)
>One other point on the EIP is that it might make content discovery better. But considering this is an app-specific blockchain I fail to see what that has to do with apps.

I didnt understand how that is going to happen? Will people upvote better content more? Will the bigger accounts stop upvoting friends and upvote other people? I have only ever seen a few curators do that and it is not easy being a curator. And ofc the curation teams like Dtube, Curie, OCD. 
Why will normal people start curating good content now instead of just voting friends that will vote them back? 
I was a curie curator for a couple months and even though it was fun at first that job is very hard and can get very boring. 
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@eonwarped ·
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It will give extra incentives to properly evaluate content. Don't really want to get into details here, but it's not really throwing darts at a board as many people are claiming. The steem system needs tweaks to motivate better behaviors, and a functional system will actually get us very far. Everyone is so anchored to their ways and resist change. To be fair, many believe the changes may be too much, but I think that they are in the right direction and well motivated. Equilibrium will shift, and will attack the behavior it is designed to attack (you can read some thoughts about the specifics in my blog if you want).


To reply to a specific comment in the main blog,

> does the curation split or reward curve of the STEEM token really matter? Does it help us achieve that goal or does it distract from it?

It does matter. Proponents of EIP are saying exactly that better economics will get us a better platform. Yes, we are building good bridges into other types of systems and that can happen in parallel, but the biggest one of all: Steem, could use some TLC. We can push for changes that improve both the main system and encourage SMTs. 

Keep in mind, it's not actually that much more time to incorporate these changes, compared to other goals. So I say tweak them. The whole mechanism is a game, and like any other game, it needs balance changes over time to correct the meta.
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@smidge-tv ·
hey , can anyone explain this ?

https://steemit.com/steem/@smidge-tv/after-exposing-berniesanders-kawaiicrush-suddenly-lost-all-rc-credits-wow
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash (and morons).  You have received a flag.
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@freddio ·
"While we're spending time messing around with parameters that a very small number of people actually understand or care about"

Thats true. We need to be a good sandbox other people can build in ( there business)
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@freddio ·
@yabapmatt

Short Question,


Is it possible to integrate a soft wallet with which you can log into the Steem Blockchain with an easy-to-remember password.

So you can give Soft Wallet permissions how much Vote Power you can use or how much cash you can use. Maybe even with a slider to adjust.

For example, you have 500 SBD in the account but only 10 SBD in the Soft Wallet. If you should lose the soft wallet key, the 10 SBD can be stolen.

The same with voting settings.

As with the key hierarchy. Just that you have a new key that is a mix of restricted active key and posting key.

So the private keys would be "safe" and the normal end user can use his easier password for using Steem.

I'm asking you, because you've developed keychain and you know so well with it.
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@geekgirl ·
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I really like your thought process, explanations and vision for Steem. However, I disagree with your conclusions. 

I don't think SPS is necessary especially if it takes away from author/curation reward pool. If SPS is funded with removal of interests on SP that would make more sense to me. I do think EIP is a positive change. 

My reason is making Steem an attractive asset to invest. Simple economics suggest more people buy and power up than sell prices go up. I think EIP will make Steem more attractive. Primarily, because most social media users are content consumer and not content creators. Giving content consumers a fair chance to be rewarded by investing will create a better economics. I think institutional investors would follow the suit, if retail is happy to invest.

Even yourself mention in one of the comments the importance of the token price. That will be the biggest marketing needed. 

Bottomline, if average users are not interested to invest their hard earned money into Steem why should large investors bother? For these reasons EIP makes sense to me, and SPS seems to undermine that. I like EIP, but with combination of SPS that potential could take away from authors/curators probably brings us back to where we are right now.
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@eonwarped ·
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Actually, I like to think about the SPS as being able to separate direct funding from voting based funding. Imagine that you transitioned all of Utopian to fund its activities based on SPS. It's more stable and you have better control of how much goes out to whom with better accountability. So whatever % utopian is allocating from the rewards pool now can be shifted to this instead, and it doesn't have to be a loss relative to today. Of course with a fixed ratio going to SPS, it's not flexible enough to do things like "send remaining funds back into the reward pool" but that would be neat too, wouldn't it? (Can be one of the first things funded if it's desired)

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@valued-customer ·
The basic difference between SPS drawing from inflation (rewards pool) directly and @utopian using their earned rewards to do so is that the former is a tax over which individuals have zero say over how much they pay for what, and @utopian has complete and total control over how they spend their personal funds.

Taxation is theft.  Goons always take charge of any taxation, because thieves steal.  If voluntary contributions aren't forthcoming for development, there's a good reason for that.  
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@gillianpearce · (edited)
$0.48
Hi @yabapmatt

I just went to the poll to see if I could see who the other witness was who voted against EIP and it looks like there were actually 17 who did so and 22 who said "yes" to it.

However, you said "top" witnesses so maybe the people who voted were not the top witnesses.

If the are though, I'm wondering, how does the decision actually get made. Is it simply by majority. Would this small a margin be enough to carry it through?

Also, is there any easy way to see who is pro the changes or will there be a way to see who is going to vote which way closer to the time? Or are we reliant on individual witnesses making posts about it?
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@marki99 ·
The hardfork will be accepted if at least 17 witnesses vote yes. You can't see the choice of each witness but most of them will write and share their opinion.
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@gillianpearce ·
Thanks for the info @marki99.
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@yabapmatt ·
$0.04
17 out of the top 20 witnesses have to run the updated code for a hard fork to "activate". You can see who the top 20 witnesses are currently at this link: https://steemd.com/witnesses

When it comes close to the time of the hard fork, you can see which witnesses are running the updated code by looking at the "version" column in the witnesses page linked above, but by that time the decision will already have been made and even witnesses who may not have supported the change will likely be running the new code too, otherwise they will no longer be part of the main chain once the HF happens.

So long story short, the community relies on the witnesses talking or posting about their positions on these matters, which is why it's important for witnesses to communicate.
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@gillianpearce ·
Thanks for the info @yabapmatt. I'll check out the top 20 from that link and see what they are saying if they've posted. &#128522;
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@nokodemion ·
You got my witness vote.
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@goldmatters ·
$0.35
I really love your train of thought here and in various interviews I’ve heard you speak in. I think most people are  far too causal about the elephant room... token price. I totally agree that if continue to get trolled by this low token price it will be difficult to attract investment here whether that by time or capital.

Wouldn’t it be great if there were some sort of gamification for STEEM like DEC or some sort of buyback or burn program on a material level?
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@yabapmatt ·
$0.13
Yes...I didn't explicitly come out and say it in the post, but token price is everything. High and increasing prices brings more users, more developers, more apps, and even free marketing and promotion. 

The huge and disproportionate price drop STEEM went through over the past year did serve as a much needed wake up call to both Steemit, Inc and the Steem community, but now it's time to do whatever we can to get that price going up and start the virtuous cycle it creates.
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@ew-and-patterns ·
$1.24
I want to tell you this because you are focused so much on the price.
I am a technical analyst and I have analyzed hundreds of stocks, indices and crypto projects simply based on their chart patterns. In Stocks and in Cryptos you will often find that when they launch, a corrective pattern (small or big) is formed FIRST to shake out the non-believers before the first rally starts.
What I am trying to tell you here is that 8$ Steem was not part of an impulse wave, but still part of this corrective pattern (in hindsight we can be very sure about that).
This corrective pattern seems to come to an end soon. What this means is, that we have no idea where the first impulse wave will lead us. It could easily blow up to 10$ in a straight line, then after corrections 20,30,50$...
All I am asking for is for a little hype for Steem, once this wave up starts. Until then, we have still time to prepare. If there is no hype involved, the first impulse may end up at 3-5$, which would still be decent but way below the potential for Steem.
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@resiliencia · (edited)
I think some of the price drop is because the conversion of SBD printed when the prices where high. This has exceeded by far the inflation that steem is supposed to have.
At some point we should consider if we really need SBD with all the bad effects that could happen when the price drops.
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@gray00 ·
I view Steem as more of a data storage solution than a social media blockchain. I envision many businesses building to solve data problems. Steem has many advantages over systems like AWS, I believe it can excel in a number of different use cases. Things that are very boring to most people like supply chain mgnt or ecommerce auctions can potentially give virtual superpowers to future Steem users. Or say p2p Uber killers.  I don't think we should throw Steem into a box . By continuing experimentation we increase our chances for mass adoption.
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@helpiecake ·
Hello! 

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@hijosdelhombre ·
$0.04
We need to **stop fighting and start making**

> Steem has years of history behind it showing a lack of clear vision and a lack of execution that we have to overcome, but if we focus on the vision and put our resources and funding where it is most needed, I firmly believe we can do it.

### I still believe

One of the things that keeps me believing in Steem so far is that no other cryptocurrency has managed to penetrate as much as this one has. So, we run with a lot of advantage, but if we sleep on our laurels we will remain in history as one of the first social-cryptos.

### Why I Would Support Inflation Funding the SPS (Steem Proposal System)

As @whatsup said in [this post](https://steempeak.com/@whatsup/why-i-would-support-inflation-funding-the-sps-steem-proposal-system). We have to accelerate the speed in the development of projects with a lot of potential (one billion dollar dapp, as said at MIT) so that the adoption rates resemble the large existing social networks.

To achieve that, we have to **decentralize even more the way in which the projects are selected and sponsored.
Because Steem Inc is not making it on its own**
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@improv ·
I would like to support witnesses with my vote who oppose the EIP. Do you have any names for me to consider?
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@incomepal ·
It's posts like these which give hope to the little people like me.

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/incomepal)
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@intellihandling ·
Dear @yabapmatt, as the top witness of my list you should be the most reliable person to ask something, so HF21 will make the horror of HF20?
As @knircky say to develop this social network we need to remove downvotes and improving reliability of the users to avoid scams like @magicdice....
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@josephsavage ·
$0.24
Decentralization requires consensus mechanisms, and consensus mechanisms mixed with social media require some way to signal disapproval.

Downvotes are an extremely important part of establishing consensus about rewards. It is not possible to deal with plagiarism and spam without downvotes. It wouldn't even be possible to police tags, and every tag would be flooded with pornography (because all it takes is one upvote to make it worth tag flooding botnet spam pornography if there are no downvotes). 

Normal social networks have entire departments and advanced algorithms keeping their networks free of spam, plagiarism, and pornography, and it still pops up. All we have is the downvote. Much hated, rarely used except by committed abuse fighters, but 100% mission critical.

Thank god that our witnesses actually understand the importance of downvotes!!

Any witness that publicly supports removal of downvotes from consensus algorithm loses my vote the second I become aware of it.
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@intellihandling ·
Dear @josephsavage, downvote is like to give for free guns to kill people...
If guns are in the hand of police (witness) it is sure their right use, in other hands downvote is like drugwars, where powerful gang threatening small users, so if this is the result i think it would be better regulate somehow it...
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@ironshield ·
$0.41
Well said.  If two years ago, someone described where the STEEM blockchain would be in 2019, I wouldn't have envisioned this.  Perhaps I'm just optimistic, but envisioning the STEEM blockchain in 2021 is a beautiful thing to behold.

It's basically the future of the internet.

![steemit.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaKCSxi8soxKQK7Rto2NmrvafQMadNMqPWGngocimtkEh/steemit.gif)
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@jaalig ·
$0.12
It is very good to see these types of conversations taking place and especially amongst the witnesses. I personally believe Steem and by extension Steemit need leadership that is visionary and competent. That leadership in turn needs to attract the types of people who can effectively the vision into action. And finally, unless and until the everyday Joe and Janes of the world can realize an attractive return on their investments of time and effort, making a compelling argument for Steem and Steemit will be a truly hard sell. Just my opinion. Nonetheless, I do remain hopeful.
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@valued-customer ·
>"...the everyday Joe and Janes of the world can realize an attractive return on their investments of time and effort..."

Profiteers currently extract ~90% of the rewards, and EIP will increase that by another 40% of the remaining ~10% of rewards currently shared by all the content creators on the platform.

EIP is the opposite of what we should do to increase the value of Steem.
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@joeylim ·
$0.24
Hey @yabapmatt, thank you so much for what you have said. 

I totally agree with this:

> While we're spending time messing around with parameters that a very small number of people actually understand or care about, Steem will continue its steady decline as the rest of the world flocks to the platforms that understand user experience and marketing.

> In a grand vision of Steem where millions of people are playing Splinterlands, sharing pictures on Appics, posting reviews on SteemHunt, logging their workout on Actifit, and so much more - all of which are using their own tokens with their own individual economies powered by Steem - does the curation split or reward curve of the STEEM token really matter? Does it help us achieve that goal or does it distract from it?

We need to make these apps with optimum UX & UI and market them aggressively. The apps are what people will be attracted to, not so much Steem as a blogging platform.

P.S. Resteemed! (:

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/joeylim)
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@julisavio ·
Greetings, yabapmatt

Excelent text, man!!! I agree. I think developers of steem could have their focus on SMT and marketing. It will bring a grande value to steem. 

I dont know the costs about it, but, a marketing department can be created to show steem to all people and programmers.  

@nathanmars give his contribuition to steem with seven push- ups challenge on twitter.... 

Maybe, a little talk to him to create its departament can be done.

thank you and have a good night!
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@kgcoin ·
Hello @yabapmatt I really need to speak to you is there any chance you use Instagram or Facebook ?
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@knircky ·
$1.48
Fully agree!

We don't need downvotes or optimize them.

We do need vision and execution thereof as well as better communication.

But without vision, the communication/marketing is also not effective and worthwhile.

Thank you for your leadership.
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@lordbutterfly ·
Steem price fluctuations are very strange. I could say i understand the Steem community, been here for a while, but the Crypto community at large is an enigma. It doesnt really make much sense to me outside thinking private interests and shadowy actions propel the game forward. 
Steem being at 63 in MC is a bigger mystery to me then BSV being so high in MC. 

Im with you on SPS instead of EIP. I think it brings so much more to the platform then the EIP. EIP is just a reshuffling of who gets more tokens.
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash (and morons).  You have received a flag.
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@lordnigel ·
$0.53
Nice post, its good to really think about why we are all here and get some agreement and **get behind a common vision/goal**.  

I believe we all have taken something special from the experience to date; made friends, got hurt, got upset at price slides,  dreamed of prices growing, built apps, gave input into apps, built communities, attended meetups learned about something, met @rustle, used an app you can interactive with in the crypto world without requiring a techo degree and a huge machine that counts numbers faster then your neighbors.
It's time to look back at where we have come from, stop the arguments try not to puke at the fear and fight for our blockchain that gave us these experiences.

One of the great things about Steem originally was everyone was so supporting, kind and welcoming..there is a dark cloud now due to the price drop and whale arguments that most content creators just dont understand - nor should they have to, but it's in their face due to bidbot and whale abuse to get trending. 

Groups have splintered off and just about every individual I speak to now whispers; "I'm now just in it for myself like the bot running whales."

ARe thoSe of us who remain the losers that EoSSy left behind?....I think not!

Where there has been injustice, those in power need to seek to rectify it. Not everyone can just lay off employee's and sell off reserves, those who are getting their head above now, share with those in the past who did good - bring back the community spirit and help others in need. This is recognising our past, respecting it and moving the focus to our present and future.

Don't do it in a way that benefits your bidbot or dapp - do it for STeem, the results will be shared.

For those working on a brighter future, see to it the rewards are directed correctly.

-Clear up the vision. You have made a reasonable shot of it here, but we need a **compelling vision of success**. This is STEEM, not some Shhit wannabe voicey coin! I want more passion! the passion @ned showed about SMT....where has it gone?? 

There is competition out there

You have the tech, you have the super efficient machines, For goodness sakes we have some of the brightest people in the crypto world right here - but instead of synergy it's how do I get  a bit more for my app? There won't be any apps if you don't look after our chain.

... Also I know it's hard and a bit dreaming, but we need to see more Steem success stories. Especially those which are about businesses using it's block chain capabilities to improve their business. Some examples are (these are made up):

Schools in africa - use Steem to record students grades as it's not changable. Do we have any African school teacher types in our community? would you be willing to work with our witnesses to lodge school grades on a side chain that can't be hacked? who would you need to talk to, to make it happen.

Elections in Australai - millions saved as people no longer go to voting polls, faith restored in the system as rigged/tampering voting not a possibility and people vote online using a steem app. riots stop as confidence in govt systems restored.

Company's annual report - prove to your shareholders your books aren't rigged with un paralleled reporting transparency.

It's crazY I'm just making this stuff up - but this is all the untapped potential of blockchain. IT's time to start looking professional so we can sell this beautiful blockchain for what it is, simply one of the top 10 crypto that is out of place..

Good luck to us all.
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@valued-customer ·
>"Not everyone can just lay off employee's and sell off reserves..."

That's the business model of profiteers and they presently extract ~90% of the rewards from the pool.  EIP will increase that by another 40% of the remaining rewards, creators presently share.  Common sense rules business and investing.  Extracting even more of the rewards will further decrease the value of Steem, the opposite of capital gains.  Millions of Steem are powering down right now to sell before the price crashes.

What does your gut tell you?  Listen to that.  It's common sense, not BS.
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@marki99 · (edited)
$0.37
@yabapmatt we need more people like you as witnesses.

The problem is that when @ned was trying to push for SMTs and overlooked everything else, people started whining about basic stuff not being done for the steemit website, about the bidbots, about communications,  etc etc. 

Even witnesses did that. Mostly because they were panicking about the token price. Not all witnesses have a clear head and a goal oriented strategy like you. 

Without @ned this blockchain will never be good looking marketing-wise. @dan already left, we can't afford another founder leaving. 

Please try to get @ned to come back, to lay out his vision for SMTs, and work towards it. Last time he wanted to talk about his vision @aggroed kept interrupting him and telling him he was doing a shit job with communication (which was true). Now that Steemit, Inc is out of survive mode, we need him.

Upvoted for visibility.
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@martie7 ·
EIP will removed part of rewards from content creators. This is our target? I think no.

>I do believe that a separate downvote pool would be good, for example

Steem needs decentralized moderators. I like idea delegation right of flag to other account.
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@michealb ·
I must be in the minority, i cant see why SPS and EIP cant be achieved, then continue on. Guess will see what the majority votes and trust their decision.
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@yabapmatt ·
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I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but it seems likely that both the SPS and EIP will end up being included and released with HF21. Adding in the EIP changes will take additional work from the core development team to build, it will take additional time and effort to test, and the more changes you include the more chances there are for issues to happen. 

I don't think all of that is worth it for something that I don't think will contribute in any meaningful way to achieving the vision of Steem that I outlined in the post. That is why I would prefer not to do it and instead focus that time and effort on things that will get us closer to our goals.
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@sepracore ·
Exactly! Even in Steemit Inc’s original post about the EIP they told people they were not going to prioritize it and instead focus on SMTs, etc. But here we are all these weeks later and I feel Ike SMTs have taken a backseat ... again.

I hope you are correct that they are still moving forward with it in the background. I really hope that is the case. It seemed like we were only a few months away from a testnet in December before certain stuff hit the fan if you will. I know a lot of developers were let go but I hope we are not too far off. A new roadmap/sprint schedule would go a long way to ease my mind. Anyway, I am rambling now ...
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@mister-meeseeks ·
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**Steem** needs to be that magic star that other blockchains want to be. Lately its been feeling like at any moment its going to take off like a rocket, but stalls out. 

You my friend from what I've seen have been busy programming your way to greatness and I appreciate what you do. I know whatever HF21 has instore you will make sure its ***A Okay*** for us!
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***On a side note***

I have a open spot for a **Best Friend** if you want it! Just let me know! Its very rare!
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@moon32walker ·
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"and even then half of the time they're thinking of the game platform." 

You are so right about that one. Every time I talk to someone new about Steem, I always need to say "Steem is not Steam the gaming platform, Steem is a cryptocurrency, but you can also play games on Steem"   People get confused, which always brings me to curse the names of dan and ned for naming Steem STEEM!   WHY name a coin like the most popular gaming platform?!??!
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@mattclarke ·
Speaking of gaming, DEC up for grabs (on top of the regular Steem prizes) in the next Path of Exile race, kicking off in just over 3 days. 
Hope to see your name on the list again mate :) 
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@moon32walker ·
$0.02
I'll be there for sure :)
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@mysearchisover ·
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Did you change the steemconnect log in stuff? It makes me nervous now that it wants even more passwords.
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@nathanmars ·
> if you build it, they will come

Back to Building
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@newageinv ·
Thanks for keeping us posted!  I a
have exact thoughts with what you say here!  Yes to SPS and no to EIP as I feel it hurt the future of vamue creation here, future users and the middle class that has grown by earning and buying.  However, I will support whatever happens as we need to foster an environment of collaboration. I hope it is more straightforward than HF 20!

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@nigelmarkdias · (edited)
# _Marketing, marketing, marketing_

Two cents from a tech illiterate.

### _UX_

_User experience:_
• If the front developers are happy with the user experience they offer  Walmart, John & Jane Doe I’ve raised a non-issue.
And the UI? Web & mobile user interface? Is an iOS or Android app ever coming?
• How much dog fooding is done at the Steemit Inc C-level?
• What is the vigilante UX for _not high quality_ content?

### Network effect

• Are the Steemit advocates more motivated today, than yesterday?
Who is, who isn’t?
Why?
• Is Steem, a social networking platform first or a blockchain first?
![](https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://steepshot.org/api/v1/image/d487a55e-cb55-4f1d-8724-9f1c56285696.jpeg)

### _Who is the customer? Not, who are the stakeholders?_

• Witnesses? Authors? Curators? Investors? Content consumers? The public?
### _Why?_
• Is this a fair definition of Steem?
https://steemitimages.com/0x0/http://steepshot.org/api/v1/image/fd810687-d9d7-4dd7-8413-263ad64d366d.jpeg
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@numpypython ·
Thanks for voting against the EIP. You got my witness vote. 

I don't see how it's going to improve curation. Just went down a rabbit hole of a few authors making 100s of steem a day on regurgitated content off a single whale's vote. 

EIP isn't going to change this.
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@ocupation · (edited)
I completely agree with you when it comes to EIP - would like to see some changes though, but not at the moment.  We should shift our focus toward more relevant things and at this point EIP is pretty much trivial, at least in my eyes. 

We need to make an effort to change the way people look at steem(in case they heard of it, lol) and actively work to bring people on here...
Can't wait to see SPS to go viral, hopefully it'll make the whole process much more "aggressive".
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@ookamisuuhaisha ·
Hi there! Sorry about offtopic'ing here, but I'm out of other ideas. If I recall correctly, you're in charge of "MattyIce" GitHub account? Any chances you could take a look on https://github.com/MattyIce/bottracker/pull/49 ? That fixes some serious bugs in rewards-calculator.. although to be honest so much time passed since I posted that PR that today I'm not even sure if the formulas I fixed are still up to date (--')
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@resiliencia · (edited)
I fully agree with you. I would like to thank you for the work you are doing for Steem daily.
You deserve to be on the witness spot you are in.
Supporting the SPS without the EIP is what excatly makes sense to me.
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@shadowspub ·
glad to see your stance on this @yapapmatt .. I'm expecting this will be part of the discussions at the next Witness Chat in the Ramble on June 12th at 1pm EDT .. hope to see you take part.
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@shoemanchu ·
Steem should be everything, where they come to drop an Dapp and our community in the social media aspect supports them. The bigger they both get the wins will come, if one gets left off, this will fail....... Also if you are the #1 Witness and you vote NO, then the other witnesses should not push EIP thru for now......
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@skramatters ·
Steem is many different things to many different people. While I appreciate your perspective that steem is the go to place for those looking to build a website or app and reward users for their contributions what I've seen thus far is pure shit. 

Appics, actifit, steemhunt, dlike are more dull than the first day of school, look at my lunch posts that dominate normie social media..

Personally I'm not interested in games or especially games of chance like magic  dice. 

Nowhere do you mention content creators or social media monetized which is what brought most people here. 

Again these are just my perspectives but it seems most witnesses are way out of touch with the typical steem user and completely on a different planet from the billions of users of the internet outside of steem. 

Steem has no vision or identity because of this revolving door of forks and witnesses that can't get on the same page or comprehend that a place that is built for devs is very niche and destined to fail. The world isn't ready for that like they weren't ready for Marty McFly guitar solos.

Basically, my take away from your post is as a fun loving creator of steem satire, a maker of atypical content that offers variety to an absurdly humdrum boring failed content discovery platform that lacks any of the features everyday people use online I should leave. 

I'm not developing shit accept some steem friends and a sense of community beyond the fucked economics that transcends all that's broken here. Which is mostly everything!  

I am the quintessential potential future user that is here to learn about crypto and enjoy a censorship resistant platform. That's entirely missed by all the emotionally and financially motivated movers and shakers here. 

Partiko is fledgling and in "transition" do you people even know that?  Esteem is buggy and annoying, without a mobile UI that appeals to normal people steem is doomed. Witnesses can't see the forest for the trees. Bernie was right ! 

Enjoy going in circles and accomplishing little to nothing with these limited stake driven motivations...

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@southernwolf ·
$0.37
What a fantastic write-up! This is what I've been waiting to hear from the top-20 witnesses, and you are also obviously very in touch with what the Steem blockchain actually needs. Real, palatable, marketable features and additions! Not small mathematical equations that honestly reflect poorly when said out loud...

You, good sir, have (re)earned my vote for you as Witness! :)
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@steem-ua ·
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@steemitqa · (edited)
$0.41
Great write-up on all this Yabapmatt!

I think a lot of people around here would agree w/ this:

> While we're spending time messing around with parameters that a very small number of people actually understand or care about, Steem will continue its steady decline as the rest of the world flocks to the platforms that understand user experience and marketing.

I like to think we all can walk and chew gum at the same time. It will great once we can double our walking and an double our chewing gum and produce many times great things on this blockchain. I think we'll get there.  Thanks , for all your hard work on everything!
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@whatsup ·
It's clear we can barely do either...  Are you serious?

lol
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@steemitqa ·
$0.04
I was trying to draw you out and it worked! :P

I guess I was hoping this would be the case , but you are right lol
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@theguruasia ·
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@yabapmatt,
Thank you for this explanation! Until I read your post I thought SMT is the only option to drag us out of current chaos, but now I understood it's is not! A valuable explanation and it's great to see you type of people are at top of witness tree as well!
Here I am giving you a drama token as a reward! This is my 1st drama token distribution and I hope you might keep it in your secret wallet, one day it might be more worthy than a BTC!
!dramatoken

Cheers~
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@themarkymark ·
$0.41
Well put @yabapmatt

> While we're spending time messing around with parameters that a very small number of people actually understand or care about, Steem will continue its steady decline as the rest of the world flocks to the platforms that understand user experience and marketing.

**This 100%**

While I really believe we need to make changes as our system is not working, it won't matter if we keep hemorrhaging the **good** users.
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@abh12345 ·
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Who are the **good** users? Your preferred content creators? Those not 100% delegated out to bots? Those not spanking over half their VP over themselves each day? 

Those are my good users, and yeah, we do not have many.
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@themarkymark · (edited)
Users who produce **quality original content** and are not milking the system with garbage.
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@smidge-tv ·
Nobody wants to be the part of the platform where YOU get to decide anything . You were caught stealing STEEM from users  and you are lacking basic understanding of what needs to be done . 

I will certainly continue to warn people about your scam
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash (and morons).  You have received a flag.
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@smidge-tv ·
I told you a year ago that you will be begging users to come back here and that is exactly what is happening . Enjoy 

![laugh.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmb1mqhfTY2MK6aRqTNjYYpZ5P77yjjPbaNkEA2A9ziSVu/laugh.gif)
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash (and morons).  You have received a flag.
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@tryskele ·
Thank you @yabapmatt  for expressing your views on HF21.  I agree with what you have said, especially when it comes to EIP. I think it is going to hinder those starting out. HF20 did damage in that area, we don't need to make it any harder for someone starting out especially since we want new people and growth. 
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@hf20 ·
$0.03
You don't know my life. Maybe I love helping new people.
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@tryskele ·
awww poor baby. LOL
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@valued-customer ·
All you love is bidbots.  Revert!
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@valued-customer · (edited)
>"When I look at Steem, I see a platform that is on par or better in nearly every applicable metric than almost every other cryptocurrency platform in existence - except for the token price."

I am confident that the blockchain and software that powers it is amongst the best in the world, but I cannot agree the token price is the problem.  Token price is a symptom.  This is revealed by an examination of investing and history, as investment has been undertaken long prior to even the advent of writing in society.  Building Gobekli Tepe required investors and that was undertaken around 13000 years ago, long before writing, money, or even settlements are proposed to have been used by people.

Historically, capital gains have proved to be the best mechanism to reward investors for their underwriting of commercial enterprises.  Steem fails to promote capital gains in a very demonstrable way, and this can be shown by examining the actions substantial stakeholders have taken.  Instead, Steem promotes profiteering, which has dramatically different results than capital gains as incentive for investment.  In the movie 'Barbarians at the Gate' from the 1980s, profiteers are shown to extract funds necessary to conduct the business affairs of a commercial enterprise as the primary means of profiting from investment in the company.  For example, hostile 'corporate raiders' can purchase a controlling interest in a company and then use their power to direct the sale of company assets, such as the forges, presses, and other manufacturing equipment necessary to conduct business.  When firing staff, eliminating marketing and other necessary business activies that create expenses, and so forth, such profiteers can make profits faster in a short period of time than can be possible by improving efficiency, marketing, and other improvements to the investment vehicle (in this example, the investment vehicle would be shares of stock) that raise the price of the investment vehicle and reward investors with capital gains.  This has been widely shown to destroy the companies, and the value of the investment vehicles, since that value has been extracted as the assets of the company have been sold off.

That is exactly what votesellers, self voters, and similar bad actors on Steem do.  Author and curation rewards are intended to provide incentive to content creators so that they produce content that attracts consumers to Steem, and who then are made aware of the opportunity and purchase Steem.  When the market for Steem grows, and people buy it, the price of the token rises, and this creates capital gains for investors.  For Steem, this is the equivalent of manufacturing widgets, and the means of production are content creators.  Steem's use case, social media, has been proved IRL to be the most successful business model in the world today, as the FAANGS show in their market capitalizations and stock prices.

When bidbots sell their votes to the highest bidder, they do not curate, even though they receive curation rewards for their upvotes, as well as the purchase price for their votes.  Creators of quality content aren't rewarded for their work, and investors are driven away from the platform instead of attracted.  This is why the market cap of Steem has fallen steadily for the two years I have been here, from the mid-30s on CMC to the mid-60s today.  

This happens because rewards encourage stakeholders to extract profit by selling their votes, or voting for themselves or others in collusion.  That is only possible because it is possible to control rewards by possessing substantial stake.  Further, curation rewards are completely counterproductive to encouraging actual curation - the rewarding of good content creators - by instead encouraging financial manipulation for profit.  There is no way to alter curation rewards to prevent this financial incentive from perverting curation from it's necessary purpose.  They do not provide substantial incentive to curate at all for stakeholders without substantial stake, and even if they're doubled, they do not.  For substantial stakeholders, they only add additional incentive to extract profit by voting on content, and cannot create any incentive to actually curate.  No matter how the rate of curation rewards is tweaked, nothing changes these basic incentives.  Nothing can cause curation rewards to encourage voting on content based on it's quality, rather than it's potential to provide profit.

Examining my curation rewards on Steemd reveals that they are about 4% of my total rewards, and this is after spending most of my time on Steem curating rather than creating content.  Were curation rewards doubled, about 8% of my rewards would come from curation.  This is because I am not a dolphin.  Whales however can eschew creation and gain substantial rewards from curation and delegation alone, because they have substantial stakes to extract rewards with.  Folks besides the 35 whales on Steem today have almost no financial incentive from curation rewards, and for whales, curation rewards and voteselling make creation and actual curation silly, in terms of financial reward.  To curate good content they'd need to spend time reading it, and presently all they have to do is delegate to extract curation rewards.  Curation would be a huge time sink, and folks with substantial stakes usually have business to conduct.  Nonetheless, whales receive ~90% of all rewards today, if not more.  The rewards pool is almost entirely devoted to extractive profiteering and this is completely contradictory to it's role encouraging content creation and creating capital gains.

Almost all the rewards of production are extracted instead of creating value in the underlying investment vehicle, Steem, and this is why capital gains cannot happen and market cap keeps shrinking.  It's also why the retention rate on Steem is ~7.5% the last time I checked.  Seasoned, traditional investors are driven off by capital gains being impossible, and content creators interested in financial compensation quickly realize they are basically financially enslaved by profiteers.  Only profiteers are interested in acquiring substantial stakes in Steem today, because only they have financial incentive to do so.

Curation rewards should simply be eliminated so that no incentive to pervert curation is created.  In order to create capital gains for investors, the only incentive to upvote posts should be to encourage good content creators to market Steem.  

The ability of substantial stakeholders to profit from selling their votes also must be eliminated in order to achieve this same goal.  The incentive for investors should be the proven mechanism of capital gains.  Any incentive to extract profits from the company (platform) product should be eliminated.  By limiting incentive to capital gains, investors will strive to make the investment vehicle more valuable - cause the price of Steem to rise - and every competing mechanism for profit is counterproductive to that purpose.  Given that Steem has one of the best blockchains in the world, and has the single best use case for business in the world today, social media, Steem should be the most valuable token on the market.  The reason it is not is that the value of the token is extracted by profiteers, and not increased in value so that profits are available to investors as capital gains.  The one mechanism that is counterproductive to that capital gains mechanism is the ability of substantial stakeholders to extract profits from rewards.  

Tweaking rewards curves, timing of votes, and the myriad tricks that are undertaken to modify this incentive cannot remove the incentive.  The only thing such tweaks can do is tweak how profiteering is undertaken to extract the value of rewards.  They cannot replace that incentive with incentive to increase the value of the investment vehicle.  None of the tweaks proposed in the EIP will give investors incentive to increase the price of Steem.  Conversely, all of them as proposed increase the profitability of extracting value from business, and discourage capital gains.  EIP will cause the price of Steem to fall, and Steem to fall further on CMC.

Limiting the ability of substantial stake to extract rewards will prevent profiteers from perverting curation for profit.  There is a simple way to do that.  If a substantial stakeholder can selfvote for 1M Steem and receive a reward of 100 Steem  (this is not a calculation, but only a metaphor for the current situation), and similar returns are possible from delegation and circle jerking, the current profiteering is the result.  If there was a cap on rewards that limited that return that profiteering would stop.  Huey Long made a proposal during the Great Depression that was so attractive to the public being financially abused by banksters that he was assassinated.  He proposed that no one should receive less than 3% nor more than 300% of the median income.

I propose that author rewards be limited in exactly that way.  Today the median reward is just under .1 SBD.

![201966medianpayout.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/valued-customer/bmodx6Yr-2019-6-6-medianpayout.png)

Median means the amount that most people receive.  3% of that is .003 SBD, roughly $.003.  This is an insignificant amount, even for very poor people.  300% of that is .3 SBD, or roughly $.30.  Still not much money.  Definitely not enough for profiteers to be interested in extracting.  However, the average payout today is very different from the median, because the bots and self voters receive almost 95% of the rewards.

![201966averagepayout.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/valued-customer/jrwNGCKf-2019-6-6-averagepayout.png)

The average payout is over 15 times the median.  When profiteers no longer are the primary recipients of rewards meant to encourage good content creators, the median will rise towards the average.  Almost every content creator will receive dramatically greater rewards for their work.  No content creator will be harmed by that.  As a creator that has received payouts of over $100 on posts, and receives more than the average payout on my posts now, I would be happy to remain within that payout range.  

The reason is that when profiteering is no longer depressing the price of Steem, it's excellent features as a token will be very likely to rapidly increase the price, as investors will then have reason to expect capital gains and buy in.  While I may only make 3 Steem for a post, as the price of Steem rises, I'll actually receive much more financial reward.  Steem is at about $.35 today.  Were it at anything close to it's actual value relative to other cryptocurrencies based on it's functionality and use case - absent extractive profiteering - I'd expect thousands of times more financial reward than is currently reflected in it's token price.  Capital gains FTW.

Finally, I predict that EIP will cause a rapid increase in profiteering, and decrease in token price.  All substantial stakeholders are now preparing to dump their holdings on the market, to sell before that happens.  @Steemit, @Steem, @Steem1, and @Steem3 are all powering down right now.  <a href="https://steempeak.com/ned/@kawaiicrush/it-appears-steemit-powering-down-4-228-330-1">Millions of Steem are being readied to dump</a> before the price plummets and those holdings lose most of their value.  EIP looks like the last rapid extraction of value from Steem is being prepared before the profiteers abandon it for the next target of their depredations.  

Either we end profiteering and encourage investing for capital gains, or we can kiss Steem goodbye.

Edit:  re-reading your OP, I wanted to comment on this statement.

>"I've talked to a few large crypto hedge funds and investors in the past and their general criteria for investment is pretty simple and fairly consistent - what is the vision / potential for the project and, more importantly, do they believe there's a good chance it will be realized."

What this neglects is that if capital gains cannot profit investors, there is no reason for them to invest.  Hedge funds and investors aren't interested in become serial self-voters.  They understand the difference between profiteering and investing. They want to realize capital gains.  Make that possible and they'll come.
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@whatsup ·
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@haikubot ·
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@yabapmatt ·
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Thanks, and bonus points for the haiku! That's one of my favorite little bots on the platform.
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@whatsup ·
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